Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016

Agent Coulson

eigrod wrote: »

How do you know ?

Twitter link say he is guilty.

Twitter link say he is innocent.

Twitter say.....


Time will tell which Twitter is right until then people will be all a Twitter.

eigrod

Mitch Connor wrote: »

The police have stated this is the case. They said, today, they investigated De Gea and Munir and found no proof of any crimes.

It also doesn't mean that he is actually innocent - but in the eyes of the law he has no crime to answer for (at the moment - things may change)

They have issued a statement ? On an official Twitter or other such account ? Or are you just quoting some third party who may or may not have as much a clue about this as we do ?

Liam O

Straight Edge Punk wrote: »

Did Adam Johnson strike you as that kind of man?

eigrod wrote: »

People really need to stop rolling out this line. It's utterly irrelevant. I have no idea whether he is guilty of anything or not....nobody on here has, but I'm sure Graham Dwyer appeared like a nice quiet chap to his workmates too - it's utterly irrelevant.

Did everyone just miss the "in that way" part of the line that keeps being quoted or did i really have to say that it was based on his on field conduct?

eigrod

De Gea didn't attend the Spanish Press Conference in the last hour and their PR man blocked all questions on the matter. Understandable all round.

Jayop

Straight Edge Punk wrote: »

No smoke...........

Absolute nonsense.


Not to say that he's innocent or guilty of whatever it is he's accused of (I'm not really sure), but to say that there's no smoke is to ignore many previous cases where there was smoke and no fire.

Just so I get this right, he's accused of arranging for his team mates to meet with an escort. That's it right? He never met the young lady as far as we know and we don't know if this lady in particular was underage.

No great if he did arrange it, but if she wasn't underage or he had no way of knowing that she was then it's not the worst crime in the world.

Giggsy11

eigrod wrote: »

How do you know ?

Spanish paper reported it. Funny how people believe the story that is convenient to then.

eigrod

Jayop wrote: »

Just so I get this right, he's accused of arranging for his team mates to meet with an escort. That's it right? He never met the young lady as far as we know and we don't know if this lady in particular was underage.

Nobody on here knows what he's accused of. Nobody on here knows if he's been accused of anything. People are going on Twitter reports from other people who don't know either, many of which contradict each other.

Jayop

Amazingly RAWK and the mad Liverpool fans who generally reside there are talking about this (or where till the thread was locked) with more common sense than a lot of United fans. I know rivalry shouldn't matter with accusations like this, but you would imagine they would be quicker to blame and recriminate whereas most are saying wait and see.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=327869.1400

Pyjamarama

I don't think anybody posted saying they think he's guilty... they've only posted saying if he is that its disgusting. Everyone has said if...

one poster said even if he did do what he's accused of its not a big deal... and then blamed the (potential) victim. Tbh i don't think i need to say potential as she's a protected witness in a horrible case that looks pretty open and shut (the non ddg parts of it) so she's a victim just not necessarily one of DDG.

REgardless people are going to talk about it as its a huge story.

Jayop

eigrod wrote: »

Nobody on here knows what he's accused of. Nobody on here knows if he's been accused of anything. People are going on Twitter reports from other people who don't know either, many of which contradict each other.

Well I read the Marca article and that's what I got from it. There was some redacted official looking document there but it was in Spanish so I passed over it.

eigrod

Jayop wrote: »

Amazingly RAWK and the mad Liverpool fans who generally reside there are talking about this (or where till the thread was locked) with more common sense than a lot of United fans. I know rivalry shouldn't matter with accusations like this, but you would imagine they would be quicker to blame and recriminate whereas most are saying wait and see.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=327869.1400

Liverpool fans have learned the hard way not to believe what you read in the papers.

Edit : That might not read as intended. What I mean is that Liverpool fans know since 1989, in particular, to never believe what you read in the papers in advance of anything being proven.

Jayop

eigrod wrote: »

Liverpool fans have learned the hard way not to believe what you read in the papers.

This is very true. Still though I clicked on there expecting the full force of that forum to be all over this but in fairness it's a reasoned response from most of them.

Cookie_Dough

jayo26 wrote: »

Always thought Romero was an underated keeper

I wonder if Utd may regret releasing Valdes...

Xenji

https://twitter.com/English_AS/status/741308179104075776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://twitter.com/dermotmcorrigan/status/741308358448304128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://twitter.com/GuillemBalague/status/741309315328442368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Jayop

Xenji wrote: »

https://twitter.com/English_AS/status/741308179104075776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://twitter.com/dermotmcorrigan/status/741308358448304128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://twitter.com/GuillemBalague/status/741309315328442368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Fairly sure that he won't get caught in a lie there.

Hank Scorpio

Looks like BS.

eigrod

For Manchester United, or any employer in any walk of life, it's a desperately difficult time between the time an allegation like this is made public to the time it is proven to be false, proven to be true, or dropped altogether.

keane2097

At least he didn't wear a hat or drive his car some place I suppose.

Jayop

keane2097 wrote: »

At least he didn't wear a hat or drive his car some place I suppose.

If he bleaches his afro blond he can fk off as far as I'm concerned.

Hococop

With this case police have no evidence to say de gea is in trouble? do they have the text conversation that he apparently had with the girl/woman?

keane2097

It is kind of bizarre and awful and stomach churning to see the little hamsters spinning in their little wheels to make a badly performing player seem like a **** over nothing and a well performing player seem all sweetness and light over something that you would at least think warrants a bit of introspection.

jaykay74

Has he been charged with something then ?

Amazing how the story that he had been sent home gained so much traction so quickly and reported as fact and not just by twitter accounts but by the like of the Daily Mail.

jayo26

jaykay74 wrote: »

Has he been charged with something then ?

Amazing how the story that he had been sent home gained so much traction so quickly and reported as fact and not just by twitter accounts but by the like of the Daily Mail.

In fairness from what i had seen on dm they said he was reportedly sent home. I think the sun ran away with themselves on it.

Hopefully its a good sign he gave a decent statement to media about it and attending the press conference which prople said he wouldnt.

v3ttel

It is a lie and a falsehood.

It gives me more reason to stay with Spain, in the company of my team-mates. It's in the hands of my lawyers.

I'm very calm. I'm just looking forward to going out to train and enjoying myself.

I've no idea where this has come from. I know it's all false.

Hopefully all of the allegations are false, similar to the situation with Johnny Evans a few years ago.

Minderbinder

So many self-serving posts here causing hysteria.

"if it's true he deserves to spend time behind bars" - what is the point of saying something like that at this stage if not to try to grab attention or attempt to take a moral high ground. it's like throwing your brother to the lions at the first hint of his wrongdoing just so you can be looked upon as more noble.

Moving on

Martial and Morgan on the bench tonight

Headshot

Interesting that Pjanic is off to Juve

Pogba could be going some where now

bangkok

WarZ wrote: »

It has been absolutely disgusting reading through the victim blaming and abundance of posts downplaying the crimes DDG was alleged to have committed.

There's nothing in it? Really? Threatening to physically hurt an underage trafficked girl unless she had sex with his mates is something that is nothing?

If the alleged is true then DDG is an absolutely toxic individual. I had to laugh at the poster claiming that DDG doesn't seem like the type! As if anyone here knows what any professional footballer is like.

where are you getting this from?!

Torbe is the guy who is under investigation and has been in jail since April.

HigginsJ

Deleted User wrote: »

Moving on

Martial and Morgan on the bench tonight

I find it hard to believe that you wouldn't have a spot for Martial in that team, I can see him being in by the end of the group stages. He could have an unreal tournament with Grizemann, Payet & Pogba around him.

Discodog

Straight Edge Punk wrote: »

No smoke...........

That is an appalling thing to say. This thread is so appropriate.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057607286

Straight Edge Punk

Discodog wrote: »

That is an appalling thing to say. This thread is so appropriate.

http://m.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057607286

Sorry, I should have clarified.

I stated in an earlier post I believe that these allegations are most likely untrue and I hope DDG is found innocent of all involvement but why was his name mentioned at all if he doesn't know the guy on trial?

HigginsJ

HigginsJ wrote: »

I find it hard to believe that you wouldn't have a spot for Martial in that team, I can see him being in by the end of the group stages. He could have an unreal tournament with Grizemann, Payet & Pogba around him.

Ya I'd say the same alright although the french manager likes Giroud

bangkok

evra legend starts

Polo_Mint

Players Released

Dorrington, George Edward

Powell, Nicholas Edward

Rathbone, Oliver Michael

Valdes Arribas, Victor

Rayne Wooney

Seems to be safe in here now

The witch hunt over

Polo_Mint

On the listing of players at the club.

What to they mean by Scholars?

Are they on Trial at the club?

Chagan

Pogba with a red streak in his hair, clearly United bound. Good job Ed.

jayo26

Polo_Mint wrote: »

On the listing of players at the club.

What to they mean by Scholars?

Are they on Trial at the club?

Its the first and second year scholarship players under 18 rashford was a scholar too.

bangkok

Polo_Mint wrote: »

On the listing of players at the club.

What to they mean by Scholars?

Are they on Trial at the club?

basically young players that are deemed good enough to be in the academy are scholars

HigginsJ

Ah Nick Powell, champions league to released in 8 months, the Reverse Rashford!!

ParkRunner

France look a bit like LVGs United. Lots of talent and possession but no sign of a goal fest

jayo26

Evra Looks like he hasnt lost any pace still a quality player

Lithium93_

Can someone give me the cliff notes of the last few pages, RE: De Gea's situation, heard it mentioned today, but not entirely sure what's happened.

jayo26

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Can someone give me the cliff notes of the last few pages, RE: De Gea's situation, heard it mentioned today, but not entirely sure what's happened.

Any of the press stories are as reliable as the others he has denied it.

The daily mail say that.

David contacted the pimp dude about two girls to go meet two footballers.

Pimp dude tells girls to do everything they ask and they will get paid some say he treatened them.

Pimp dude does not pay the girls.

Two footballers allege assault the girls david de gea wasnt near them or ever meet them.

One of the girls msg de gea asking who the second footballer was but he wouldnt say.. donno how she got his number.

Another thing was mentioned that the pimp was ment to do a video of the girls before hand to send to the footballers and aleggedly de gea to see if they wanted them.

Four years after these events the pimp dude is arrested for child trafficking and child pornography some say one of these girls were found or freed when he was arrested.

This is what i read it is probably far from the truth too but its a version i read earlier in the mail and it seems the easiest to understand.

Ohh and bangkok still dont like fellaini and memphis dress style or choice of transport.

Trigger

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Can someone give me the cliff notes of the last few pages, RE: De Gea's situation, heard it mentioned today, but not entirely sure what's happened.

Headshot

Martial should be starting in this French team all day long

bangkok

jayo26 wrote: »

Any of the press stories are as reliable as the others he has denied it.

The daily mail say that.

David contacted the pimp dude about two girls to go meet two footballers.

Pimp dude tells girls to do everything they ask and they will get paid some say he treatened them.

Pimp dude does not pay the girls.

Two footballers allege assault the girls david de gea wasnt near them or ever meet them.

One of the girls msg de gea asking who the second footballer was but he wouldnt say.. donno how she got his number.

Another thing was mentioned that the pimp was ment to do a video of the girls before hand to send to the footballers and aleggedly de gea to see if they wanted them.

Four years after these events the pimp dude is arrested for child trafficking and child pornography some say one of these girls were found or freed when he was arrested.

This is what i read it is probably far from the truth too but its a version i read earlier in the mail and it seems the easiest to understand.

Ohh and bangkok still dont like fellaini and memphis dress styoe or choice of transport.

de gea did feck all.

i love fellaini

depay is the next jean paul gaultier

bangkok

Headshot wrote: »

Martial should be starting in this French team all day long

game is crying out for him.

jayo26

bangkok wrote: »

de gea did feck all.

i love fellaini

depay is the next jean paul gaultier

Screen shot that haha.

Trigger

ah Evra... ffs stupid Peno