Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016

RobertKK

Mr. Farage wrote: »

Stop being deluded. We don't have champions league football. Players aren't going to sign for us over the likes of Madrid or Bayern. Chelsea yes maybe we can compete with them but we have fallen way behind the top dogs.

You are always inwards looking

Strumms

astradave wrote: »

Anyone know what's going on with Giggs, he was linked with Forest but they are after appointing someone today.

It's an interesting one... you would have thought after the LVG sacking and Jose coming in the club would have confirmed what is happening with Giggs. I'd say it's fairly likely he is on his way out and the club have remained silent in order for him to look for a new job and look like he left to do something else rather then get the sack as it were...

weisses

brinty wrote: »

These guys are mercenaries for hire with very little loyalty..

Ahh Mercenaries/warriors .... Mourinho will like that

RobertKK

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

PSG after sacking Larry White

They will hire the Europa winning Sevilla manager.

Cypher_sounds

Time for Mourinho to smash and grab Verratti while he doesn't have a manager. Get in there my son!

Cypher_sounds

irishchris wrote: »

Never said he wouldn't have been a good signing for us. He would have been a lot of the time but he is not consistent enough and I don't think we would be signing a rw this summer if we had got him and lingard so for those reasons I am glad we did not sign him. No doubting he will be a good signing for Liverpool though if he can find consistency.

And Lingard is consistent and influences games more often or even at all? Not sure what your reasons for not wanting to sign him last summer are tbh. Would he have improved our team last season? Yes imo, we needed someone explosive like him.

jayo26

Dead right guys sure jesse doesn't influence games

RobertKK

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

And Lingard is consistent and influences games more often or even at all? Not sure what your reasons for not wanting to sign him last summer are tbh. Would he have improved our team last season? Yes imo, we needed someone explosive like him.

Lingard is going to be a sub next season with Mkhitaryan replacing him as 1st choice.

RobertKK

jayo26 wrote: »

Dead right guys sure jesse doesn't influence games

He will become our new Solskjaer.

Cypher_sounds

jayo26 wrote: »

Dead right guys sure jesse doesn't influence games

Whenver I'm feeling down I replay this goal. I have it saved my phone :pac:

jayo26

RobertKK wrote: »

He will become our new Solskjaer.

He was average enough at times last season but he came back from a massive injury. He has had the summer off and have confidence from his fa cup win so we could see an improved seasonot from him.

Cypher_sounds

RobertKK wrote: »

Lingard is going to be a sub next season with Mkhitaryan replacing him as 1st choice.

He will be a good sub. Come on in cup finals and smash another one into the top corner is good enough for me.

RobertKK

jayo26 wrote: »

He was average enough at times last season but he came back from a massive injury. He has had the summer off and have confidence from his fa cup win so we could see an improved seasonot from him.

I hope so, he was very good in front of goal before he became a regular in the team.

jayo26

RobertKK wrote: »

I hope so, he was very good in front of goal before he became a regular in the team.

Yeh u think his underage stats are pretty high ain't they. I'm really excited for the new season.

Hococop

If we sign zlatan, how much game time could rashford get? I can see him play all europa games, and maybe 20-30 min in most pl games?

irishchris

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

And Lingard is consistent and influences games more often or even at all? Not sure what your reasons for not wanting to sign him last summer are tbh. Would he have improved our team last season? Yes imo, we needed someone explosive like him.

Lingard played well but remember only recently he took the step up to first team. But my point was more to do with it we had signed mane whilst already having lingard then we wouldn't be signing a rw this summer. Would rather a year of lingard then many years of substandard rw

adox

I posted the link to Mane signing for Liverpool yesterday as he was heavily linked as a Utd target for a long time.

Also, its just a lot of hot air saying we arent in for the same players as Liverpool.

RobertKK

adox wrote: »

I posted the link to Mane signing for Liverpool yesterday as he was heavily linked as a Utd target for a long time.

Also, its just a lot of hot air saying we arent in for the same players as Liverpool.

Linked last year, not this year.

Don't know of any players that United and Liverpool have been linked with which are the same so far.

adox

RobertKK wrote: »

Linked last year, not this year.

Don't know of any players that United and Liverpool have been linked with which are the same so far.

Linked last season and we are coming into the first window since then.

Its terribly dismissive to say we wont be in for the same players as Liverpool was my point.

Flint Fredstone

adox wrote: »

Linked last season and we are coming into the first window since then.

Its terribly dismissive to say we wont be in for the same players as Liverpool was my point.

Sure Liverpool were after Mkhitaryan a few seasons ago themselves.

bucketybuck

RobertKK wrote: »

Linked last year, not this year.

Rather an arbitrary distinction is it not? And a rather stupid argument all round, not least considering we may be about to sign a player heavily linked with them in the past.

RobertKK

Gazzetta dello Sport say United are offering Pogba £192k a week (presume after tax) which is higher than what Real Madrid offering him according to the paper, €25 million Mino Raiola wants for himself and United are prepared to match the €100 million Real Madrid are offering Juventus.

So GDS are saying €100 million, while other publications are saying United offering €120 million.
Probably stays at Juventus unless Raiola wants his pension sorted.

Umaro

Liverpool and United have been linked with the same players quite a bit over the past year or two - Depay, Firmino, Clyne all spring to mind.

However, United can also step up into the elite tier of the market whenever they want (Di Maria, Falcao) and Liverpool just don't have that sort of spending power. Getting Mourinho on board probably negates the effect of missing a year of CL. Players want to play for him since they know he wins trophies.

RobertKK

bucketybuck wrote: »

Rather an arbitrary distinction is it not? And a rather stupid argument all round, not least considering we may be about to sign a player heavily linked with them in the past.

Mkhitaryan was linked with Arsenal before United became favourites.
It only matters what is happening in the current transfer window and who we want and not past transfer windows when rumours could not be verified, as the player moved nowhere.

TitianGerm

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

Sure Liverpool were after Mkhitaryan a few seasons ago themselves.

Turned us down because we didn't have CL.

bangkok

maybe something like this for next season?

brinty

bangkok wrote:

maybe something like this for next season?

A fantasy line up
Sure why not??

But rashers shouldn't be on right side of a 3

He's a striker play him there if/when you rest Zlatan

The_Kew_Tour

Having seen him live for Sweden against us and the other 2 games I'm not sure I'm keen on Ibra.

Just looked so ordinary

brinty

The_Kew_Tour wrote:

Having seen him live for Sweden against us and the other 2 games I'm not sure I'm keen on Ibra.

Just looked so ordinary

Better team around him with United??

If it's a one year deal and rashers learns from him all the better

alchemist33

brinty wrote: »

Better team around him with United??

If it's a one year deal and rashers learns from him all the better

Will Rashers learn from him? Zlatan doesn't strike me as the Mr Miyagi type who'll nurture the youngsters

The_Kew_Tour

brinty wrote: »

Better team around him with United??

If it's a one year deal and rashers learns from him all the better

Id take him, but if I expect him to blossom I think we may have few people disappointed

Manutd_4life

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Having seen him live for Sweden against us and the other 2 games I'm not sure I'm keen on Ibra.

Just looked so ordinary

1 year deal and on a free. With his goals record, it's well worth a punt. Plus he will strike fear into the opposition, something our forwards have been lacking.

Lithium93_

It's not just the forwards who lack the ability to strike fear into opponents, the entire team is missing said ability.

But hopefully that'll be set right this season...

Liam McPoyle

bangkok wrote: »

maybe something like this for next season?

Carrick and Rooney in the middle.

Jaysus.

The_Kew_Tour

Manutd_4life wrote: »

1 year deal and on a free. With his goals record, it's well worth a punt. Plus he will strike fear into the opposition, something our forwards have been lacking.

True, but I'd be prepared for him be flop too.

Headshot

Saul T Nutzz wrote: »

Carrick and Rooney in the middle.

Jaysus.

yup it would get slaughtered

KH25

Am I the only one who thinks we might see a decent bit of Valencia as RW? He strikes me as the kind of player Jose would like. Nothing spectacular, but solid, especially if we want to lock down the left wing

jayo26

alchemist33 wrote: »

Will Rashers learn from him? Zlatan doesn't strike me as the Mr Miyagi type who'll nurture the youngsters

On the contrary ain't he loved in the Swedish squad for helping youngsters and I think I read similar about his time with inter.

jayo26

bangkok wrote: »

maybe something like this for next season?

I'm surprised at that lineup from you. Why buy a player that has just won player of the year playing on the right and put him in midfield?

I'd have him on right and rooney or mata behind ibra then deeper I'd have selection of bastian schneiderlin carrick and Herrera.

I also hope we have seen the last of playing two defensive role midfielders I want to see schneiderlin given more freedom.

Mitch Connor

I don't care if Ibrahimovic takes them for 1on1 coaching sessions - we need another striker. If Rooney is being moved into midfield it would take some kind of brain dead idiot to think Martial and Rashford for a season will be good enough. So once it is accepted we need a striker - the argument can only then be about which one.

Harry Kane? Spurs would have no interest in selling - and I don't thinkn he would look to force a move - so if you want Kane, better be bringing well north of 50million and a prayer. Also, if you sign young and improving Kane - what does that do for the game time of Rashford? You can't claim to want Rashford to being given loads of time and then want Kane.

Similar with Lukaku - I doubt Koeman went to Everton without assurances they woudl fight to keep Barkley, Lukaku and Stones, so you are looking for 50million again, or more, for another young and improving striker. Not looking good for Rashford that one either.

Lewandowski? Are Bayern going to sell? If they do Real Madrid are continually linked - so good chance he goes there.

Higuain, Icardi... whoever - gonna cost a fortune. Generally play most games and be around for a good few years.

Ibrahimovic. Free transfer, one year contract. 34? 35? whichever, he isn't going to be playing game in game out at that age - so plenty of game time to share around. He isn't going to be first choice in 2 years time, so if Rashford or Martial have improved it is a completely different outlook on what longer time striker signing we need. His winner mentality (a reported big asset to PSG from his first day) would be welcome. Playing with him day in day out in training should be of help to younger players, regardless of whether he puts on coaching clinics of his own.

Also - and maybe, just maybe... Rashford isn't all that good. Maybe he is going through the purplist of purple patches and won't improve (or improve much from here). Maybe pinning our hopes on him to lead us for the next decade and making signing decisions based on that isn't the best of ideas.

Ibrahimovic would be a low risk signing, is proven to work well with Mourinho and will provide another 12 months for Rashford and Martial to develop, so we can see where we are next summer. Do we need a new first choice cause Rashford is average, or do we need a backup cause Rashford is looking class. Would be a good idea to make such a decision based on more than 3 months of senior football.

Rashford is 18 - he doesn't need to be playing 90mins every week and the reliance we placed on him in the last third of last season was simply poor management.

bangkok

jayo26 wrote: »

I'm surprised at that lineup from you. Why buy a player that has just won player of the year playing on the right and put him in midfield?

I'd have him on right and rooney or mata behind ibra then deeper I'd have selection of bastian schneiderlin carrick and Herrera.

I also hope we have seen the last of playing two defensive role midfielders I want to see schneiderlin given more freedom.

seen a good bit of him this year, he has played in the number 10 role and played from the left some games i have seen him, just dont think it is clear cut he will play out wide right

Mitch Connor

bangkok wrote: »

seen a good bit of him this year, he has played in the number 10 role and played from the left some games i have seen him, just dont think it is clear cut he will play out wide right

Rashford wide right is just stupid though. Sure, let him run to the channels from centre to pull defenders away - but actually play him on the right as a plan for the season? Would be just thick.

Call Me Jimmy

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I don't care if Ibrahimovic takes them for 1on1 coaching sessions - we need another striker. If Rooney is being moved into midfield it would take some kind of brain dead idiot to think Martial and Rashford for a season will be good enough. So once it is accepted we need a striker - the argument can only then be about which one.

Harry Kane? Spurs would have no interest in selling - and I don't thinkn he would look to force a move - so if you want Kane, better be bringing well north of 50million and a prayer. Also, if you sign young and improving Kane - what does that do for the game time of Rashford? You can't claim to want Rashford to being given loads of time and then want Kane.

Similar with Lukaku - I doubt Koeman went to Everton without assurances they woudl fight to keep Barkley, Lukaku and Stones, so you are looking for 50million again, or more, for another young and improving striker. Not looking good for Rashford that one either.

Lewandowski? Are Bayern going to sell? If they do Real Madrid are continually linked - so good chance he goes there.

Higuain, Icardi... whoever - gonna cost a fortune. Generally play most games and be around for a good few years.

Ibrahimovic. Free transfer, one year contract. 34? 35? whichever, he isn't going to be playing game in game out at that age - so plenty of game time to share around. He isn't going to be first choice in 2 years time, so if Rashford or Martial have improved it is a completely different outlook on what longer time striker signing we need. His winner mentality (a reported big asset to PSG from his first day) would be welcome. Playing with him day in day out in training should be of help to younger players, regardless of whether he puts on coaching clinics of his own.

Also - and maybe, just maybe... Rashford isn't all that good. Maybe he is going through the purplist of purple patches and won't improve (or improve much from here). Maybe pinning our hopes on him to lead us for the next decade and making signing decisions based on that isn't the best of ideas.

Ibrahimovic would be a low risk signing, is proven to work well with Mourinho and will provide another 12 months for Rashford and Martial to develop, so we can see where we are next summer. Do we need a new first choice cause Rashford is average, or do we need a backup cause Rashford is looking class. Would be a good idea to make such a decision based on more than 3 months of senior football.

Rashford is 18 - he doesn't need to be playing 90mins every week and the reliance we placed on him in the last third of last season was simply poor management.

Completely agree, if you believe in rashford (most people do I'd say), Ibrahamovic and the circumstances surrounding his move, playing time, experience, price, etc. are all perfectly suited to improving rashford and the team as a whole. Not to mention the moments of magic and possible unlocking of otherwise tough defences throughout the season. Ibra in open play will be quite important, with his age, possibly more important than the goals he scores. It's a top tier of class.

beno619

jayo26 wrote: »

I'm surprised at that lineup from you. Why buy a player that has just won player of the year playing on the right and put him in midfield?

Micky played on the right for Dortmund ?

bangkok

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Rashford wide right is just stupid though. Sure, let him run to the channels from centre to pull defenders away - but actually play him on the right as a plan for the season? Would be just thick.

it was just a starting 11 put out there, was more to do with where mkhitaryan will start. i think we will see a lot more players interchanging positions this season during games

alchemist33

jayo26 wrote: »

On the contrary ain't he loved in the Swedish squad for helping youngsters and I think I read similar about his time with inter.

Well fair enough then. That's one less worry about him for me.

jayo26

beno619 wrote: »

Micky played on the right for Dortmund ?

Yeh going by who scored he played 22 games on the right for Dortmund last season and 4 in center and the rest were on the left infairness he plays just about anywhere in final third but mostly has been from right.

RobertKK

Would people like United signing James Rodriguez for £50 million.

bangkok

RobertKK wrote: »

Would people like United signing James Rodriguez for £50 million.

no

Hank Scorpio

RobertKK wrote: »

Would people like United signing James Rodriguez for £50 million.

I hope we don't. I think he's overrated and the last time we signed a Madrid reject it didn't end up well. We shouldn't be going for players who didn't make it at other clubs imo, more signings like Martial please!