Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016

Korat

I wouldn't take the FA Cup every year for 10 years if it meant we wouldn't win the league in that time.

The FA Cup is now considerably less significant than it was 30 years ago when it was still a consolation prize for not winning the league.

jayo26

Was just gonna say that salty business cat dude with nutz has one up. In honour of zerks hard work all season we should get them joined.

Cantona's Collars

astradave wrote: »

You were beaten to it by the bizzy cat

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057600085

I've a mod on the case to delete my one.

Polo_Mint

astradave wrote: »

You were beaten to it by the bizzy cat

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057600085

One can be for the liverpool fans



Our match thread should have a cryptic title

Maybe create the match thread in the Mustard forum

RobertKK

Hopefully we win our first major trophy in three years tomorrow, winning trophies is what matters, not losing a final because you don't like the manager.

Cantona's Collars

De Gea got into the EL squad of the tournament despite only playing 2 games.

Jayop

Polo_Mint wrote: »

One can be for the liverpool fans



Our match thread should have a cryptic title

Maybe create the match thread in the Mustard forum

When I was posting on RC years ago we had a thread like that. I can't remember the title but it was in one of the general forums and it was given a totally innocuous name that was mad boring so no-one who didn't know would click on it. It was a great refuge from all the dopes that normally post in the match threads.

Sand

Saul T Nutzz wrote: »

Memphis clearly has some ability. I know the Dutch league is a bit shyte but a player does simply not do last season what he did without having something.

IMO his confidence is rock bottom at the moment and he has become a point of frustration for alot of people (not without reason of course) which is bound to effect his confidence further.

Memphis started the season brightly and was beginning to forge a decent relationship with Shaw before his injury.

He seemingly has a bit of an attitude problem too which is obviously going to clash with someone as bullish as LVG.

I'd give him another year, hopefully under Jose, before making a final judgement on him.

He is very definitely a confidence player, with a lot of talent. Where people see a player having a sulk, having an attitude problem or not giving a damn I see a fairly insecure person who is operating on zero confidence at this point. Players aren't machines, they are human beings. I'd be firmly of the view that Memphis cares a lot more about his performances (or lack thereof) than any fan does.

What he needs more than anything else is a manager who has confidence in him. The shame is that LVG seems to have given up on him.

Jayop

zerks wrote: »

De Gea got into the EL squad of the tournament despite only playing 2 games.

Coke bangs in 2 in the final and no mention?

Cantona's Collars

Jayop wrote: »

Coke bangs in 2 in the final and no mention?

Didn't Pepsi sign a 3 year sponsorship deal with UEFA?
They can't have a mention of Coke anywhere.



I'll get me coat.

Lord TSC

BeIN sports the latest to jump on he "Jose has reached an agreement with United" bandwagon.

brinty

Lord TSC wrote:

BeIN sports the latest to jump on he "Jose has reached an agreement with United" bandwagon.

It's happening

Polo_Mint

LVG will tell the media he is retiring at the post match press conference tomorrow night

He will come in, Tell the Media he has an announcement, Retire and thank the Club, Wont take Questions and walk out

Trigger

There's also a few reporting that LVG is gone no matter what happens tomorrow..

Headshot

astradave wrote: »

There's also a few reporting that LVG is gone no matter what happens tomorrow..

Im crossing everything

0gac3yjefb5sv7

brinty wrote: »

It's happening

How reliable are BeIn

user2011

astradave wrote: »

There's also a few reporting that LVG is gone no matter what happens tomorrow..

The only logical thing that can happen!

Lord TSC

Pheonix10 wrote: »

How reliable are BeIn

Not very, apparently, but they have strong links to PSG so maybe something coming from that direction? Or...chances are rags can sense it's nearly over so are trying to look ITK...

hufpc8w3adnk65

Headshot wrote: »

Im crossing everything

Don't mind crossing things! It's time too light a candle in a church!

adox

Whatever the club have decided to do I really hope it isn't dependant on tomorrow's result.

On Memphis, I could actually see him flourishing under Mourhino. I agree his confidence looks completely shot. He needs to be managed properly to get tha best out of him. I think Mourhino would put an arm around him and tell him how great he is etc.

I know they are highly paid professionals and they have to take responsibility for themselves and their performances, and let's face it he's had some shockers but there is no getting away from differs players have different personalities and confidence levels and need to be managed accordingly.

Cantona's Collars

Lord TSC wrote: »

BeIN sports the latest to jump on he "Jose has reached an agreement with United" bandwagon.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/end-line-manchester-uniteds-louis-8016430

hufpc8w3adnk65

zerks wrote: »

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/end-line-manchester-uniteds-louis-8016430

Pretty much same as every other article is it?

sky88

Jose has signed at least 60 agreements at this rate according to the papers

Vic Vinegar

Don't worry folks, he's definitely gone, even if we win the FA Cup. He didn't get us into the top four, he's toast.

Sand

sky88 wrote: »

Jose has signed at least 60 agreements at this rate according to the papers

Yeah, tbh LVG was right a couple of months ago when he pointed out he had been sacked at least a half dozen times. It might be time to acknowledge the reality - the media know **** all, but have to print something to keep the papers full.

Sand

Vic Vinegar wrote: »

Don't worry folks, he's definitely gone, even if we win the FA Cup. He didn't get us into the top four, he's toast.

If he wins the FA Cup tomorrow he will be the only manager other than Alex Ferguson to bring a trophy worth mentioning to the club in the past 30 years.

glued

Sand wrote: »

If he wins the FA Cup tomorrow he will be the only manager other than Alex Ferguson to bring a trophy worth mentioning to the club in the past 30 years.

Of which Ferguson was the manager for 26 years.

Sand

glued wrote: »

Of which Ferguson was the manager for 26 years.

Yep, but Ferguson is retired. So...

user2011

I've no interest in who is coming in other then who is going out, LvG please. No question in my mind he is worse then moyes, can you imagine the up roar after Moyes saying the fans expectations are to high?!!!

Heading into a fourth year of uncertainty with challenging for a league title after the amount of money spent on players and management teams. Lunatic asylum would be better run then this club it seems at times.

user2011

Sand wrote: »

If he wins the FA Cup tomorrow he will be the only manager other than Alex Ferguson to bring a trophy worth mentioning to the club in the past 30 years.

He'll also be the only manager to spend how many hundreds of millions in two seasons and bring back one trophy in the whole history of the club maybe even club football... and the fans expectations are to much!!!!

Sand

user2011 wrote: »

He'll also be the only manager to spend how many hundreds of millions in two seasons and bring back one trophy in the whole history of the club maybe even club football... and the fans expectations are to much!!!!

How much did Manchester City spend in the summer of 2015 to win the league cup?

RobertKK

Jose has always wanted the United job, one could see how he always avoided controversy with United and usually had nice things to say.

He has played a long game, which he hopes gets repaid now.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

RobertKK wrote: »

Jose has always wanted the United job, one could see how he always avoided controversy with United and usually had nice things to say.

He has played a long game, which he hopes gets repaid now.

We'll definitely know in less than 7 days time anyway

user2011

Sand wrote: »

How much did Manchester City spend in the summer of 2015 to win the league cup?

150? Quick Google!!! 200m in LvG first season scrap fourth another couple of tens of millions spent and when the season is down the swanny we get told we expect too much.... That's called a giraffe

Your post came across like we should be thankful that we could be winning the fa cup with him in charge... he needs to be gone asap

Cantona's Collars

http://en.as.com/en/2016/05/20/football/1463777463_726836.html?omnil=mod-act

In the hours following today’s FA Cup final, Manchester United are set to announce that a three-year deal has been brokered to make José Mourinho the new first team manager. Negotiations between Ed Woodward, the Premier League club’s executive vice-president, and Jorge Mendes, the 53-year-old’s agent, took place weeks ago; however, some uncertainty about the appointment still lingered within the Red Devils’ board room. Nonetheless, the conclusion was eventually made that irrespective of today’s result at Wembley, Louis van Gaal’s tenure has come to an end.

No DOF role for LVG,

There had been talk of Van Gaal staying on and taking over from David Gill as the club’s sporting director, so as to work side by side with Mourinho. However, in the end it has been decided that the Dutchman will leave. Manchester United failure to qualify for next season’s Champions League, and the financial implications that will entail, is a fact that is not lost on fans. The poor personal relationships that exist between Van Gaal and the majority of his players only goes to reinforce the decision to cut ties with him.

Lithium93_

Goodbye n' good riddance LVG.

RobertKK

zerks wrote: »

http://en.as.com/en/2016/05/20/football/1463777463_726836.html?omnil=mod-act



No DOF role for LVG,

So they speculate Mata will be leaving and Mourinho wants a major overhaul of the squad.

Sand

user2011 wrote: »

150? Quick Google!!! 200m in LvG first season scrap fourth another couple of tens of millions spent and when the season is down the swanny we get told we expect too much.... That's called a giraffe

Your post came across like we should be thankful that we could be winning the fa cup with him in charge... he needs to be gone asap

Its just fact checking. I think the squad is strong enough to do much better than it has under LVG this season. Add a good striker, right winger and a central midfielder to feed them and the team than LVG built could win the PL next season. Might not be LVG managing them though.

A year or two ago, Rodgers said if you spent 100 million in a single transfer window, you needed to be challenging for the title. The simple reality is that you need to spend at least 100 million just to keep up with the big spenders in the EPL. Griezmann would cost at least 60 million. Neymar...over 100. Pogba, close enough to 80 million. These are the players the media connect with United, yet seem to think spending more than 30 million on a player is a big deal. Its not anymore.

duffman13

The most exciting part if Jose taking over is I can see him doing a massive overhaul if he thinks it's needed, could be a very fun summer with some quality names coming in. Like I could see Griezmann or Pogba signing with Mourinho in charge if we were interested.

Those of you unsure about 'winning the cup and keeping LVG' vs 'losing the cup and losing LVG', stop worrying and freely cheer on the team you love.

If United come out later today playing the most beautiful football ever witnessed by humankind, with a 12-0 scoreline, and LVG takes the FA Cup, fills it with water, turns it into wine, and then does a 'loaves and the fishes' with it and gives all the fans in the stadium a sup...even then, he's gone.

No Top 4 in a season where Chelsea were non-runners, Liverpool were still Liverpool, and our rivals slipped up giving us many opportunities to overtake them...he's gone.

Giggsy11

Van Gaal have 27 players in the squad, so he didn't select CBJ in the squad so him giving youth a chance must be myth.

If Rashford is played every game then Van Gaal don't know how to use youngster as he is burning them out.

If Van Gaal drops young player after few games then Van Gaal don't know how to nurture talent. They are on bench as soon as senior players are back.

Amazing how people can twist everything once manager loses the support. No matter how people try to twist, point is youngsters are given chance because our squad is very thin. Our squad is thin because Van Gaal wanted that way to integrate Young players. If not for him we wouldn't have seen Rashford playing for senior team so soon. There are many examples where Manager played midfielder as striker.

Laughable to even use Mcnair to beat the manager when people here lose their **** when Mcnair is started. Only youngsters who weren't given proper chances are Pereira and Januzaj.

Wilson was sent out on loan and before that he played few cameo roles even though we had 4 senior strikers.

It's not possible to give chances to all the youngsters considering it's only 2 years and gave more than 10 young players chances in first team.

Van Gaal should be sacked without any doubt but not giving him credit for giving youngsters a chance is just wrong. Just because he didn't give couple of youngsters fair chance doesn't mean he shouldn't get credit for playing Rashford, Fosu Mensah, CBJ, McNair and many others.

The_Kew_Tour

Going be nervous wreck today.

Mon The Hibees and of course United

bucketybuck

Then why has the horribly out of form Rojo been picked ahead of the in form CBJ?

paulbok

zerks wrote: »

De Gea got into the EL squad of the tournament despite only playing 2 games.

No Moreno? 😀

Giggsy11

bucketybuck wrote: »

Then why has the horribly out of form Rojo been picked ahead of the in form CBJ?

Yeah one decision will undo all the work. People said same when Rooney came back but Rashford still retained his place.

Lord TSC

Rashford seems the exception at the moment.

Arguably, Van Gaal hasn't successfully integrated another youth player into the team.

The_Kew_Tour

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Going be nervous wreck today.

Mon The Hibees and of course United

United and Rangers will do it for me!

Giggsy11

Lord TSC wrote: »

Rashford seems the exception at the moment.

Arguably, Van Gaal hasn't successfully integrated another youth player into the team.

CBJ is part of first team squad. Hard to become key player so quick. Now they are part of squad playing back up role. They are still just 18-20 year old kids.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Team today, I'm going with: Dea Gea, Tony, Smalling, Blind, Rojo, Carrick, Fellaini, Martial, Rooney, Lingard, Rashford.

markc1184

Is there still a big deal made of Cup Final match day suits? Do United bother or just wear their Club suits?