Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016

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fergiesfolly

Liam O wrote: »

United beat them comfortably in the FA Cup at their own ground and they lost pretty bad to Swansea at the weekend. Should be looking to win and win well. Fellaini is a loss but a chance for others to do well. 2 boring 1-0s would be great from here.

When was the last time we won well though?
That FA Cup game was fairly hairy the last 10-15 minutes
I'll happily take 2 squeeky bum 1-0s myself.
The emotion of the occasion could affect the Hammers badly, or propel them to excel.
I'm not sure we're equipped to handle the latter.

jayo26

fergiesfolly wrote: »

When was the last time we won well though?
That FA Cup game was fairly hairy the last 10-15 minutes
I'll happily take 2 squeeky bum 1-0s myself.
The emotion of the occasion could affect the Hammers badly, or propel them to excel.
I'm not sure we're equipped to handle the latter.

We're not equipped to handle teams that play Badley either to be fair.

The_Kew_Tour

Like I said before Norwich game, we be doing well to win it, never mind thinking it will be stroll in Park.

RobertKK

L'Equipe saying Neymar will be an "absolute priority" for Woodward if we get 4th place. Ibrahimovic also linked.

https://twitter.com/Sport_Witness/status/729924614739111936

Kerrydude1981

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Like I said before Norwich game, we be doing well to win it, never mind thinking it will be stroll in Park.

Whatever it is,anytime Utd play at Upton Park,I always feel un easy about watching it,the games do be tight enough

Maximus Alexander

Tonight needs some old fashioned Rooney magic.

bangkok

RobertKK wrote: »

L'Equipe saying Neymar will be an "absolute priority" for Woodward if we get 4th place. Ibrahimovic also linked.

https://twitter.com/Sport_Witness/status/729924614739111936

would rather let rashford develop than make a move for ibrahimovic.

Lord TSC

I know I tend to be negative nowadays. My worries though are as follows.

* Big game for West Ham on multiple levels; last home game of the season, last home game in that stadium, need a win to keep a European spot in their hands.
* Missing Martial (possibly) and Fellaini, two players who were very important the last time we played West Ham.
* Against Norwich, it was a must win game, and yet we still only managed the one goal, which was practically gifted to us by a mistake. West Ham are a significantly better team than the ones we've struggled to beat in our last few games.

I really do want to be positive bout this but I fear we're going to drop points here But then I always do nowadays...

TheTownie

Lord TSC wrote: »

I know I tend to be negative nowadays. My worries though are as follows.

* Big game for West Ham on multiple levels; last home game of the season, last home game in that stadium, need a win to keep a European spot in their hands.
* Missing Martial (possibly) and Fellaini, two players who were very important the last time we played West Ham.
* Against Norwich, it was a must win game, and yet we still only managed the one goal, which was practically gifted to us by a mistake. West Ham are a significantly better team than the ones we've struggled to beat in our last few games.

I really do want to be positive bout this but I fear we're going to drop points here But then I always do nowadays...

And lets not forget West Ham are at their best as a counter attacking team which Utd will duly oblige with their monotonous possession.

Flint Fredstone

Lord TSC wrote: »

I know I tend to be negative nowadays. My worries though are as follows.

* Big game for West Ham on multiple levels; last home game of the season, last home game in that stadium, need a win to keep a European spot in their hands.
* Missing Martial (possibly) and Fellaini, two players who were very important the last time we played West Ham.
* Against Norwich, it was a must win game, and yet we still only managed the one goal, which was practically gifted to us by a mistake. West Ham are a significantly better team than the ones we've struggled to beat in our last few games.

I really do want to be positive bout this but I fear we're going to drop points here But then I always do nowadays...

West Ham will come out to play at least, just as long as they don't play to well :pac:
It's the lower teams that are content with a point that United have the most trouble with, like say... Bournemouth.
It would be typical of this season if we won tonight and drew Sunday.

madcabbage

If Utd concede first, I can't see them getting anything out of tonight. We roll over too easy to most teams when we let in goals.

Lord TSC

Lord TSC wrote: »

I know I tend to be negative nowadays. My worries though are as follows.

* Big game for West Ham on multiple levels; last home game of the season, last home game in that stadium, need a win to keep a European spot in their hands.
* Missing Martial (possibly) and Fellaini, two players who were very important the last time we played West Ham.
* Against Norwich, it was a must win game, and yet we still only managed the one goal, which was practically gifted to us by a mistake. West Ham are a significantly better team than the ones we've struggled to beat in our last few games.

I really do want to be positive bout this but I fear we're going to drop points here But then I always do nowadays...

A point tonight isn't even that bad of a result.
Final day of the season puts more pressure on Man City than Utd IMO and they will be playing Swansea away who have come into really good form of late.

Maximus Alexander

M!Ck^ wrote: »

A point tonight isn't even that bad of a result.
Final day of the season puts more pressure on Man City than Utd IMO and they will be playing Swansea away who have come into really good form of late.

When you start thinking like that, you've already lost.

RobertKK

bangkok wrote: »

would rather let rashford develop than make a move for ibrahimovic.

He has a great record for making a team win the league.

Mitch Connor

RobertKK wrote: »

He has a great record for making a team win the league.

And the fact is (imo) we need another striker. Bringing in an older player like Ibrahimovic would be a short term signing that allows Rashford room to develop without being relied upon 99% of the time. The kid is 18, lets build a balanced squad and see what happens. Rashford could turn out to be a bust anyway.

Lord TSC

M!Ck^ wrote: »

A point tonight isn't even that bad of a result.
Final day of the season puts more pressure on Man City than Utd IMO and they will be playing Swansea away who have come into really good form of late.

Completely disagree.

Somehow, amazingly, we have Top 4 in our own hands. Its a miracle we've gotten that chance again, so I think it would be incredibly horrible to have to go into the final day again relying on other results. The whole "AGUREERRROOOOOO!" moment a few years back scarred me somewhat, but I think the fact we have Top 4 in our own hands means dropping points would be very poor form.

Swansea are unknown as well; yeah, they had some great results (3-1 vs Liverpool, 1-0 vs Chelsea, 4-1 vs West Ham) but they've had some bad ones as of late too (3-0 vs Newcastle, 4-0 vs Leicester). We don't know what Swansea will show up. Saw reports yesterday that several of their first team players are set to be rested as well, and they have nothing to play for at all. Relying on them to get anything off City is setting us up for a fall.

Julez

Lord TSC wrote: »

Completely disagree.

Somehow, amazingly, we have Top 4 in our own hands. Its a miracle we've gotten that chance again, so I think it would be incredibly horrible to have to go into the final day again relying on other results. The whole "AGUREERRROOOOOO!" moment a few years back scarred me somewhat, but I think the fact we have Top 4 in our own hands means dropping points would be very poor form.

Swansea are unknown as well; yeah, they had some great results (3-1 vs Liverpool, 1-0 vs Chelsea, 4-1 vs West Ham) but they've had some bad ones as of late too (3-0 vs Newcastle, 4-0 vs Leicester). We don't know what Swansea will show up. Saw reports yesterday that several of their first team players are set to be rested as well, and they have nothing to play for at all. Relying on them to get anything off City is setting us up for a fall.

Completely agree.

We should only be aiming to win these next two games. The players better at least look up for it!!

holy guacamole

If Van Gaal persists with playing Lingard centrally and Mata on the wing then we might as well forget about it now. Our 'improved' form coincided with the restoring of players to their favoured positions, but Norwich saw Lingard and Mata switched again, incomprehensibly.

If we play Carrick with Rooney & Herrera in front of him, and Rashford with Depay, Lingard either side I'd feel relatively confident that we can sneak a win here.

bangkok

Mitch Connor wrote: »

And the fact is (imo) we need another striker. Bringing in an older player like Ibrahimovic would be a short term signing that allows Rashford room to develop without being relied upon 99% of the time. The kid is 18, lets build a balanced squad and see what happens. Rashford could turn out to be a bust anyway.

would much rather splash the cash on Greizemann, a player at the top of his game and imo will be one of the top 3 players in the world in a few years (although i think he will stay with athletico another season) rather than sign Ibrahimovic who is 35 at start of season and not exactly going to put a shift in for the team

Michael D Not Higgins

Yep, Arsenal did us a favour and we need to take advantage of that. A win tonight gives us a boost against Bournemouth and I'd expect a handy win then. 4th place and flying, facing Palace in the FA Cup. Excellent end to a dire season.

Mitch Connor

bangkok wrote: »

would much rather splash the cash on Greizemann, a player at the top of his game and imo will be one of the top 3 players in the world in a few years (although i think he will stay with athletico another season) rather than sign Ibrahimovic who is 35 at start of season and not exactly going to put a shift in for the team

For me - I would love a front three of Martial from the left, Greizmann from the right and Rashford/Rooney/Ibra in the centre.

Hococop

Knowing us we will beat west game and mess it up by losing the weekend

RobertKK

Ibrahimovic goes to AC Milan and we line up with front three of:

Neymar-Martial-Griezmann.


:P

Liam O

There will be a lot of players playing for their United careers tonight, West Ham have a proud recent history of head on the beach before the end of the season. The United players should have more in them to do it. This season has provided more kicks in the teeth than any other though...

RobertKK

Swansea could finish in the top 10 in the league with the right results, I think they will play to win. They will have nothing to lose, unlike City.

Flint Fredstone

Just read that Renato Sanchez has signed for Bayern...

Antibac

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

Just read that Renato Sanchez has signed for Bayern...

Think Bayern got the wrong guy.

It's Renato Sanches we are supposed to be signing!

Mitch Connor

Sanches to Bayern for half the fee we were reported to be bidding for him. Another fine transfer saga from Woodward.

jayo26

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Sanches to Bayern for half the fee we were reported to be bidding for him. Another fine transfer saga from Woodward.

If it's true how can you blame Woodward lol? The papers report bullsh1t but its Ed's fault cause he didn't sign him??

Flint Fredstone

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Sanches to Bayern for half the fee we were reported to be bidding for him. Another fine transfer saga from Woodward.

Key word being "reported"

Mitch Connor

Oh, the 'we were never in for him' brigade are out in force already. Sure we weren't, never interested. never. Woodward is awesome, everything is rosey.

markcahill1985

Bayern have signed Renato Sanchez; makes me think no Jose yo us either; Ed strikes again.

Mitch Connor

markcahill1985 wrote: »

Bayern have signed Renato Sanchez; makes me think no Jose yo us either; Ed strikes again.

Thats the big fear alright.

jayo26

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Oh, the 'we were never in for him' brigade are out in force already. Sure we weren't, never interested. never. Woodward is awesome, everything is rosey.

No one is saying that but your going on reports. In paler the same papers that said yesterday we were signing him for 80 million quid so obviously they were wrong. The same papers that said we were after wrapping up jose months ago.

Sure let's all believe the papers and when what we want don't happen we will throw a fit and blame Woodward.

Maybe we were in for him and he wanted to join bayern is that still Woodward fault?

Wait till we just put Mitchs toys back in the pram

Flint Fredstone

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Oh, the 'we were never in for him' brigade are out in force already. Sure we weren't, never interested. never. Woodward is awesome, everything is rosey.

I never said we weren't in for him did I? I don't know, you don't know. Sure as hell don't know what we bid if we were. It's comical how much stock you put in journalists when time and again it gets shown that very little info gets leaked anymore.
Take your head out of the papers for a minute and look at what you actually posted. You are more or less slating someone on the back of a rumour.

quad_red

https://twitter.com/FCBayern/status/729976727502467072/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Look at that. It's a competent club with a cohesive and organised transfer policy.

markcahill1985

quad_red wrote:

Look at that. It's a competent club with a cohesive and organised transfer policy.

Exactly; they're going to announce Hummels today too. Don't worry LVG and Ed will sign Mane for 60m on deadline day.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

markcahill1985 wrote: »

Bayern have signed Renato Sanchez; makes me think no Jose yo us either; Ed strikes again.

Why would this be the case? Just because Mendes sold him to Bayern doesn't mean Jose isn't coming to us?

Lord TSC

Lord TSC wrote: »

Completely disagree.

Somehow, amazingly, we have Top 4 in our own hands. Its a miracle we've gotten that chance again, so I think it would be incredibly horrible to have to go into the final day again relying on other results. The whole "AGUREERRROOOOOO!" moment a few years back scarred me somewhat, but I think the fact we have Top 4 in our own hands means dropping points would be very poor form.

Swansea are unknown as well; yeah, they had some great results (3-1 vs Liverpool, 1-0 vs Chelsea, 4-1 vs West Ham) but they've had some bad ones as of late too (3-0 vs Newcastle, 4-0 vs Leicester). We don't know what Swansea will show up. Saw reports yesterday that several of their first team players are set to be rested as well, and they have nothing to play for at all. Relying on them to get anything off City is setting us up for a fall.

Wouldn't it be nice to reverse this with "MAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRTIIIIAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL!"
It would be some end to the season :P

markcahill1985

Pheonix10 wrote:

Why would this be the case? Just because Mendes sold him to Bayern doesn't mean Jose isn't coming to us?

Maybe not but you would imagine if Utd and Jose really wanted him then Mendes would do that deal. Makes me think Utd have told Jose no and Mendes is sticking it to them.

Speaking of the French wizard, is he fit for tonight!?

Flint Fredstone

Sure Thiago Alcantara and Mehdi Benatia were "done deals" too. If Bayern want a player that United want he's going there. It's not even a tough decision for a young lad from Portugal.

Expect Thiago to follow Pep to City now too.

JakeArmitage

quad_red wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FCBayern/status/729976727502467072/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Look at that. It's a competent club with a cohesive and organised transfer policy.

We really are a joke shop of a club

Flint Fredstone

JakeArmitage wrote: »

We really are a joke shop of a club

Why?

Flint Fredstone

Where were all these journalists reporting Sanches to Bayern a done deal the last few weeks or did they just decide to buy him this morning?

Mitch Connor

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

Where were all these journalists reporting Sanches to Bayern a done deal the last few weeks or did they just decide to buy him this morning?

Maybe they made a move this week, and got it done quickly - maybe they don't need weeks upon weeks to negotiate for players they want to sign.

Hococop

I'm starting to think other clubs are using us to associate players with, then sign them while all the limelight is on us

markcahill1985

Flint Fredstone wrote:

Sure Thiago Alcantara and Mehdi Benatia were "done deals" too. If Bayern want a player that United want he's going there. It's not even a tough decision for a young lad from Portugal.

Flint Fredstone wrote:

Expect Thiago to follow Pep to City now too.

Mitch Connor wrote:

Maybe they made a move this week, and got it done quickly - maybe they don't need weeks upon weeks to negotiate for players they want to sign.

they're the best run club in the world; got Ancelotti tied up without a whisper as well

Van.Bosch

We'll never know whether Utd wanted him, tried to sign him or whether he just preferred Bayern.

But you have to hand it to Bayern, they get things done early and with little fuss. I know Utd did that last year with Martial but that was rare. Maybe there is more media speculation with English clubs but Bayern/Barca seem miles ahead of Utd in terms of getting transfers done.