Is a 980ti worth it now?

callumsdad

Hi guys.
Just sold my 970 and was thinking of getting the 1080 but not to fond of the blower style cooler on the founders edition.After market coolers could be a bit away so also.Those ideas have swayed me back to a 980ti especially at the price they're selling for now.They are shifting for 500 at least on adverts.Would it still be a viable investment today?
Thanks guys.

grindle

I'd wait until the 1070 models are released. If the Founder's edition retails at €500 and meets or exceeds the 980ti then their 2nd hand prices should drop to €400-€450.

Ri_Nollaig

Personally I think you'd be mad to get a 980ti with the new cards just around the corner. Even if the real world performance isn't what nvidia claim it will surely have an affect on their price, which can only go down from here.

Serephucus

Why the founder's edition specifically? The partners' cards should be cheaper, and better cooled. At this point the founder cards are more akin to how we think of the Nexus line: Premium materials, and you pay the extra for getting it exactly as the designers intended.

Also, with the 1070 MSRP at $379, I'd imagine that to come out at about €399 here, shouldn't be anywhere near €500*.

NVIDIA have set an interesting precident with this though. With the founder card being $100 more than MSRP, we could get into a situation where MSRP is now "Minimum Recommended Retail Price". It could happen that partners release their stock (non-ref) cards for MSRP+$50, which would still be less than founder. So you get people going "Well, I could pay $50 less and get an awesome cooler, let's do that!" and on the surface it would seem to still be good value.
tl;dr - worried about price creep.

callumsdad

Thanks guys.I think I'll wait so fek it:)

grindle

Serephucus wrote: »

Why the founder's edition specifically? The partners' cards should be cheaper, and better cooled. At this point the founder cards are more akin to how we think of the Nexus line: Premium materials, and you pay the extra for getting it exactly as the designers intended.

Also, with the 1070 MSRP at $379, I'd imagine that to come out at about €399 here, shouldn't be anywhere near €500*.

Founder's edition specifically because that's the one which Nvidia have said is made with the highly-binned "great overclocking" chips - the 1070 Founder's MSRP is $449. Maybe I'm jaded for thinking they'll tack on an extra 50 when converting to Euro?

Maybe the standard chip can be overclocked a good bit too but for now with no benchmarks to go on the Founder's edition is the baseline to compare it to. If the partner cards measure up well obviously that'll drop the price presuming they're lower-priced.

Serephucus

grindle wrote: »

Founder's edition specifically because that's the one which Nvidia have said is made with the highly-binned "great overclocking" chips - the 1070 Founder's MSRP is $449. Maybe I'm jaded for thinking they'll tack on an extra 50 when converting to Euro?

Maybe the standard chip can be overclocked a good bit too but for now with no benchmarks to go on the Founder's edition is the baseline to compare it to. If the partner cards measure up well obviously that'll drop the price presuming they're lower-priced.

No! That's exactly what the founder's card isn't. This confused a lot of people initially. It's just reference. No overclock, no binned chips. The only thing you're paying for is the nice cooler.

The reason it's not priced lower is because NVIDIA doesn't want to directly compete with board partners (and subsequently piss them off) so they're priced that big higher.

grindle

Serephucus wrote: »

No! That's exactly what the founder's card isn't. This confused a lot of people initially. It's just reference. No overclock, no binned chips. The only thing you're paying for is the nice cooler.

The reason it's not priced lower is because NVIDIA doesn't want to directly compete with board partners (and subsequently piss them off) so they're priced that big higher.

Ohhhh! Thanks. Haven't been on the web too much the past couple of days.
So... An extra $70 for a manky cooler. Interesting decision.
That brings the 980ti's price right down if they all have this stupid-high overclockability.

Serephucus

grindle wrote: »

That brings the 980ti's price right down if they all have this stupid-high overclockability.

Exactly.

callumsdad

JayzTwoCents - What is the GTX1080 and GTX1070 Founders Edition?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ0AoYSH01g

challengemaster

grindle wrote: »

I'd wait until the 1070 models are released. If the Founder's edition retails at €500 and meets or exceeds the 980ti then their 2nd hand prices should drop to €400-€450.

Nvidia have already come out and said a 1070 is better than a titan X, founders edition supposedly $449 on release with normal MSRP of $379. Literally no point buying a 980ti unless prices drop to sub 300.

callumsdad

challengemaster wrote: »

Nvidia have already come out and said a 1070 is better than a titan X, founders edition supposedly $449 on release with normal MSRP of $379. Literally no point buying a 980ti unless prices drop to sub 300.

Better than titan x at vr maybe.Maybe limited overclocking the 1070 compared to the 1080.We need benchmarks:)

Venom

callumsdad wrote: »

Better than titan x at vr maybe.Maybe limited overclocking the 1070 compared to the 1080.We need benchmarks:)

Yeah all the talk about beating 980's in SLI and Titan X's is in VR from what I'v read due to the new tech which makes sense as leaked benchmarks show the 1080 being 12-15% faster than a Fury X.

callumsdad

Nda lifted the 17th.We shall get some benchmarks then.