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Minor schemes & realignments

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Unclear what you mean by “counteract” unless you think that it’s all about being seen to “balance” urban and rural spending when in practice it should be based on need.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    marno21 wrote: »
    300m long.

    Ah ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭serfboard


    marno21 wrote: »
    300m long.
    spacetweek wrote: »
    Ah ffs
    Well, the thread title does say "minor"!


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Tenders out for archaeological services for three realignment projects:

    N70 Brackaharagh
    N72 Stagmount Bends
    N73 Annakisha South

    (+ 2 N86 schemes but there's an N86 thread)

    https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=150544&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/publictenders

    https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=150679&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/publictenders


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,604 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Why has the work stopped at n60. Not a machine in sight for weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭wellboss


    Is there any long term plan for the N61 north of Roscommon town?, The newly opened section is great and it would be good to see further improvements up around the Tulsk region where there is still some pretty bad bends.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    wellboss wrote: »
    Is there any long term plan for the N61 north of Roscommon town?, The newly opened section is great and it would be good to see further improvements up around the Tulsk region where there is still some pretty bad bends.

    North of Roscommon, Tulsk-Clashaganny is in planning. South of Roscommon, Ballymurray-Knockcroghery is also in planning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭serfboard


    marno21 wrote: »
    South of Roscommon, Ballymurray-Knockcroghery is also in planning
    I think that the Roscommon->Athlone N61 should be 2+2, but, having checked the numbers, at 7.7K AADT, it doesn't look like it's justified.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Anyone know what the deal is with the N2 realignment north of Monaghan? Works have been ongoing for over a year now and it still looks nowhere near opening. Seems to be progressing extremely slowly for what's essentially just a few km of fairly basic realignment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,655 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    serfboard wrote: »
    I think that the Roscommon->Athlone N61 should be 2+2, but, having checked the numbers, at 7.7K AADT, it doesn't look like it's justified.

    That’s a very decent standard road- should be the standard all National secondaries are at. Sadly very far from it though


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    marno21 wrote: »
    Sligo County Council recently sent the N16 Lugatober (2.5km) to An Bord Pleanala

    https://www.independent.ie/regionals/sligochampion/news/plan-to-remove-bad-bends-on-n16-37826812.html

    Approved with conditions: http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/303731.htm


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    That crap road needs everything it can get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭medoc


    Laois County Council have signed the contract for the N80 Maidenhead Realignment Scheme.


    http://www.midlands103.com/news-centre/laois-county-council-set-to-upgrade-n80/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,655 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    medoc wrote: »
    Laois County Council have signed the contract for the N80 Maidenhead Realignment Scheme.


    http://www.midlands103.com/news-centre/laois-county-council-set-to-upgrade-n80/

    I wasn’t over that way in a year or so but hadn’t that already started like ages ago? There was diggers and stuff on site I seem to remember


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭BelfastVanMan


    marno21 wrote: »

    I wonder if this will directly tie-in to the future upgraded N81 from Tallaght to Hollywood Cross?

    (Whenever the hell that may be...)


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    I wonder if this will directly tie-in to the future upgraded N81 from Tallaght to Hollywood Cross?

    (Whenever the hell that may be...)
    It was designed totally independently of the big ticket scheme. They will be quite close but are totally unconnected.

    There are 5 realignments proposed for the N81 and this is the furthest north and the first to go to construction.

    The big ticket N81 scheme won't begin planning until the late 2020s going by current timescales. TII are prioritising the national primary network bar a few minor schemes like the Listowel/Moycullen/Ardee bypasses and the LVNS schemes on the western seaboard.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭BelfastVanMan


    marno21 wrote: »
    I wonder if this will directly tie-in to the future upgraded N81 from Tallaght to Hollywood Cross?

    (Whenever the hell that may be...)
    It was designed totally independently of the big ticket scheme. They will be quite close but are totally unconnected.

    There are 5 realignments proposed for the N81 and this is the furthest north and the first to go to construction.

    The big ticket N81 scheme won't begin planning until the late 2020s going by current timescales. TII are prioritising the national primary network bar a few minor schemes like the Listowel/Moycullen/Ardee bypasses and the LVNS schemes on the western seaboard.

    Good man, that answers 2 other questions I had, as well.
    :-D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,655 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    I wonder if this will directly tie-in to the future upgraded N81 from Tallaght to Hollywood Cross?

    (Whenever the hell that may be...)

    A long way off I’d think- for the moment they seen to be trying to pick off the very worst bits. Worst section coupled with high ADDT is the Tallaght to Brittas section- very busy, winding, dark, narrow, no hard shoulders or passing opportunities but would need a complete rebuild


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    road_high wrote: »
    A long way off I’d think- for the moment they seen to be trying to pick off the very worst bits. Worst section coupled with high ADDT is the Tallaght to Brittas section- very busy, winding, dark, narrow, no hard shoulders or passing opportunities but would need a complete rebuild

    This is the problem. The 5 realignments are south of Hollywood Cross, which is great for the route south of there, but these realignments aren't being done north of there because the traffic counts merit something more. The problem being that the 'something more' is frozen and unlikely to move for several years. The net result being that the busiest part of the N81 (which is pretty bad in places as you say) isn't dealt with while some of the quieter parts are.

    Similar situations happening on other roads countrywide where only minor realignments get progressed while the bigger, much needed schemes remain in limbo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,655 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Much easier fund the little realignments here and there- the Tallaght to Blessington section requires a completely new DC road costing hundreds of millions vs a few million at a time!


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Roscommon County Council have published route options for a 5.4km realignment on the N61: Tulsk to Clashaganny. Absolutely septic stretch of road

    http://www.roscommoncoco.ie/en/News-Events/Latest-News/Public-Consultation-N61-Tulsk-to-Clashaganny-Road-Project/

    Tender out for specialist consultancy services also:

    https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicPurchase/153869/0/0?returnUrl=ctm/Supplier/publictenders&b=ETENDERS_SIMPLE


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭UsBus


    Would anyone know if there is any plan to do anything with the routes between Headford and Ballinrobe. I think the N84 is considered the primary route & the R334 is practically a back road but is quite often a better road to travel on despite the bumpy surface.

    While the N17 is probably the official route between Galway & Mayo, the N84 is the more direct quicker route but parts of this are shocking, Shrule, Kilmaine etc..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭BelfastVanMan


    UsBus wrote: »
    Would anyone know if there is any plan to do anything with the routes between Headford and Ballinrobe. I think the N84 is considered the primary route & the R334 is practically a back road but is quite often a better road to travel on despite the bumpy surface.

    While the N17 is probably the official route between Galway & Mayo, the N84 is the more direct quicker route but parts of this are shocking, Shrule, Kilmaine etc..

    There was a plan for a Ballinrobe relief road for the N84, but this has dropped off the radar, possibly dropped by Darth Varadkar when he was in charge of Transport & Tourism.

    I used to drive that road twice a week from Castlebar to Galway during rush hour; what an absolute hell-hole at times!

    The next N84 upgrade is quite likely to be from Galway to Luimnagh, but other than that, I can't see any upgrades any time soon.

    Sadly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭UsBus


    There was a plan for a Ballinrobe relief road for the N84, but this has dropped off the radar, possibly dropped by Darth Varadkar when he was in charge of Transport & Tourism.

    I used to drive that road twice a week from Castlebar to Galway during rush hour; what an absolute hell-hole at times!

    The next N84 upgrade is quite likely to be from Galway to Luimnagh, but other than that, I can't see any upgrades any time soon.

    Sadly.

    Ya, even if the Curragh line could be widened with a hard shoulder, it would be a help. Such a bottleneck to get out of Galway, so dangerous for a straight stretch of road with nowhere to pull in, breakdowns etc..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭BelfastVanMan


    UsBus wrote: »
    There was a plan for a Ballinrobe relief road for the N84, but this has dropped off the radar, possibly dropped by Darth Varadkar when he was in charge of Transport & Tourism.

    I used to drive that road twice a week from Castlebar to Galway during rush hour; what an absolute hell-hole at times!

    The next N84 upgrade is quite likely to be from Galway to Luimnagh, but other than that, I can't see any upgrades any time soon.

    Sadly.

    Ya, even if the Curragh line could be widened with a hard shoulder, it would be a help. Such a bottleneck to get out of Galway, so dangerous for a straight stretch of road with nowhere to pull in, breakdowns etc..

    That's the name I was looking for; the Curragh Line.

    That is, as far asxI understand, the next and project likeky to get the go ahead; goodness knows when, though.

    It would be good if it was done before the Galway Outer Ring Road, but then, that's another story altogether...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 678 ✭✭✭jmkennedyie


    I see realignment of R148 directly outside Intel Leixlip is advancing quickly...I hear it may be open within a month or two. Added to OSM: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/53.3741/-6.5254

    I heard some references to it being a temporary realignment to support construction works over the next year or two, but the realignment is in the Leixlip LAP so wouldn't surprise me if it remains longer term.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,184 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The part 8 says temporary but nobody expects it to be


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Tender out for land and property valuation services for the N55 Corduff to South of Killydoon Section B project

    https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicPurchase/154560/0/0?returnUrl=ctm/Supplier/publictenders&b=ETENDERS_SIMPLE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭BelfastVanMan


    marno21 wrote: »
    Tender out for land and property valuation services for the N55 Corduff to South of Killydoon Section B project

    https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicPurchase/154560/0/0?returnUrl=ctm/Supplier/publictenders&b=ETENDERS_SIMPLE

    Happy days; does this include the section that will replace the narrow bridge just north of Killydoon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,921 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    Happy days; does this include the section that will replace the narrow bridge just north of Killydoon?
    according to this, Section B is "Ballytrust to Grousehall" so it does seem that this bridge will be replaced and the Metropolis of Killydoon bypassed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭BelfastVanMan


    Happy days; does this include the section that will replace the narrow bridge just north of Killydoon?
    according to this, Section B is "Ballytrust to Grousehall" so it does seem that this bridge will be replaced and the Metropolis of Killydoon bypassed

    Happy days; that is one of the worst sections of National Road in the country.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    N53 Hackballscross-Rassan preferred route to be published this evening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 remfan


    [font=ralewaysemibold, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]N17 Milltown to Gortnagunned Realignment Scheme - Public Consultation[/font]
    http://www.galway.ie/en/news/name,36204,en.html


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    N51 Dunmoe Phase 2 to go to tender in 2020
    The N51 Dunmoe Phase 2 scheme comprises the construction of approximately 4 km of single carriageway and associated ancillary and consequential works, including the provision of side roads, accommodation works/roads, junctions, from the townland of Blackcastle Demesne to the townlands of Cruicetown and Pighill in County Meath. An Oral Hearing was held on 12th July 2018 and An Bord Pleanala confirmed the CPO for the scheme in October 2018. Meath Co Co are currently progressing the final design and tender documents and intend to go to tender for this scheme in 2020.TII has provided an allocation to Meath Co. Co. of €150,000 for the scheme this year.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    N67 Ballinderreen-Kinvarra Phase 2 awarded to Foxs

    https://galwaydaily.com/news/n67-realignment-to-commence-within-weeks/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭BelfastVanMan


    marno21 wrote: »
    N51 Dunmoe Phase 2 to go to tender in 2020
    The N51 Dunmoe Phase 2 scheme comprises the construction of approximately 4 km of single carriageway and associated ancillary and consequential works, including the provision of side roads, accommodation works/roads, junctions, from the townland of Blackcastle Demesne to the townlands of Cruicetown and Pighill in County Meath. An Oral Hearing was held on 12th July 2018 and An Bord Pleanala confirmed the CPO for the scheme in October 2018. Meath Co Co are currently progressing the final design and tender documents and intend to go to tender for this scheme in 2020.TII has provided an allocation to Meath Co. Co. of €150,000 for the scheme this year.

    From (hazy) memory, that means the N51 from Navan to Slane will be of acceptable standard, finally.

    Now, if they could do Drogheda to Slane...


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    From (hazy) memory, that means the N51 from Navan to Slane will be of acceptable standard, finally.

    The part east of the scheme to Slane is very good. The part west to Navan is very narrow but straight, so at least you have good sighlines.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Does anyone have any info on this scheme in Letterkenny? It's on the N14 so presumably TII are managing it

    http://www.highlandradio.com/2019/11/11/could-four-lanes-scheme-result-in-two-years-of-gridlock-for-letterkenny/

    Traffic has already been hell this year with the multiple and never ending Irish Water schemes around the town, having major roadworks on the main artery into the town (with no alternative route and AADT of over 30k) is going to cause chaos


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,655 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    What’s the N60 scheme at Oran about between Castlerea and Roscommon? Lovely new stretch of road open (a standard template all National secondaries should be at). Looks part of it not finished yet, will it completely bypass the existing road around a graveyard (I think)?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    road_high wrote: »
    What’s the N60 scheme at Oran about between Castlerea and Roscommon? Lovely new stretch of road open (a standard template all National secondaries should be at). Looks part of it not finished yet, will it completely bypass the existing road around a graveyard (I think)?

    N60 Oran - 3.4km of Type 1 SC

    Wills Bros are doing it so no surprises that it’s ahead of schedule. Only started earlier this year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Does anyone have any info on this scheme in Letterkenny? It's on the N14 so presumably TII are managing it

    To answer my own question..
    This scheme which is being developed by Donegal County Council in partnership with Transport Infrastructure Ireland consists of approximately 1.4Km and will include:

    The provision of a centre median over the schemes length with the inclusion of right turning lanes for the L11142 Bonagee Road and the L1094-1 Cullion Road.

    The provision of footpaths and cycle ways.

    The construction of a walkway/boardwalk for approx 100m adjacent to the River Swilly.

    The provision of signalised pedestrian crossings.

    Junction improvement works, pavement, signage and lining and other ancillary works.

    Plenty more of this to look forward to over the next couple of years then...

    https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2518965768141032&id=162517790452520&anchor_composer=false


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    Some preliminary works have begun on the N73 at Annakisha, I had hoped they were doing the stretch further north which is really dangerous and narrow.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Truckermal wrote: »
    Some preliminary works have begun on the N73 at Annakisha, I had hoped they were doing the stretch further north which is really dangerous and narrow.

    Agreed, although I think they both merit doing the Waterdyke section is like something you’d expect on a local road, let alone a road that takes so many HGVs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 863 ✭✭✭DumbBrunette


    Some developments of interest in Mayo:

    N17: The dangerous Lisduff crossroads on the N17 where several people have been killed is to be rebuilt into a grade separated junction. This means 2 GSJs within 1km on the N17 at Claremorris, a bit unnecessary for a small town IMO. Construction to start in 2021 but yet to go to ABP so that might be optimistic. Drawings here: https://www.mayo.ie/news/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Appendix-A-Part-8-Drawings.pdf

    N26: Design work to start on Ballina ring road, linking N26 to N59 Crossmolina road. Easy job (no bridge over Moy), but no construction planned before 2023. Cloongullane bridge defo starting next year.

    N60: Tiny Lagnamuck scheme nearly complete. Heathlawn (4km online) to tender sometime next year. Manulla (4km type 1 offline) to go to ABP in Q1 2020. Construction expected 2022 on the latter.

    Interesting new project that has appeared is R332 Kilmaine to Galway county boundary. Mayo county council have budgeted 4m euro capex for this in 2022, so it must be a realignment. I haven't seen any drawings yet. The R332 has seen a huge increase in traffic since the M17 opened and Galway county council are progressing an upgrade on their section too.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    I note with interest that the bridge on the N17 at Lisduff is specced with a "clearance envelope for future proposed N17 Type 2 dual carraigeway".
    Fantastic to see that.


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