American Dream or European nightmare?

Madd Finn

Imagine this as a scenario.

The son of an immigrant bus driver, grows up in a public housing project. He does well at school, qualifies as a lawyer, joins one of the two major political parties and while still in his forties wins a popular election to become mayor of his country's capital city.

Would this not be a shining example of "The American Dream" which reflects well both on the first generation citizen for his industry and his accomplishment and on the host country for welcoming a minority member amongst them and rewarding him with their trust as their capital city's administrative leader?

You might think.

The testimonial above accurately describes the background and accomplishment of Sadiq Khan, if you replace the term "Public Housing Project" with "council estate" which is the nearest British equivalent, who has just been elected as Mayor of London, the first Muslim to become mayor of a major Western European city. Or at least, the first since the days of the Spanish Caliphate.

Somehow, Fox News can't find it in their hearts to welcome his achievement. They clearly think it's a bad idea and a sign that Europe has gone to the dogs.

Can't say that I agree with them just yet.

Tea drinker

It shows that integration doesn't work if the immigrants vote en masse based on skin colour/religion etc for a guy with a cosy relationship with terrorists who target the place where londoners live.
The West is finished, it can't or won't defend it's borders against a group which abhors our way of life and is bound by creed to change it.

I'm not saying today, tomorrow or anything like that. But it's the trend and there is no force to bend the trend.
Large swathes of Sweden, France and UK are now a de facto Islamic state. This will continue perhaps at a slower rate as the liberal women in Germany who had so happily announced the final solution for Germany, now can no longer cover up the humanitarian abuses by their humanitarian migrants and have to advise women to dress conservatively in the areas where control is being ceded to islamist gangs. Plenty of areas in UK, France, Sweden and Germany where whitey and Western Europe North America attitudes will not be tolerated.
Police are monitoring facebook in UK and any anti immigrant stuff can be reported and can result in a police visit - they have warned this. Remember this is the same police force who prevented s father from retrieving his daughter from the house where she was being gang raped and traded by islamist gangs.
We will refuse to defend western values, so they will go the way of the dodo.

weisses

Madd Finn wrote: »

Imagine this as a scenario.

The son of an immigrant bus driver, grows up in a public housing project. He does well at school, qualifies as a lawyer, joins one of the two major political parties and while still in his forties wins a popular election to become mayor of his country's capital city.

Would this not be a shining example of "The American Dream" which reflects well both on the first generation citizen for his industry and his accomplishment and on the host country for welcoming a minority member amongst them and rewarding him with their trust as their capital city's administrative leader?

You might think.

The testimonial above accurately describes the background and accomplishment of Sadiq Khan, if you replace the term "Public Housing Project" with "council estate" which is the nearest British equivalent, who has just been elected as Mayor of London, the first Muslim to become mayor of a major Western European city. Or at least, the first since the days of the Spanish Caliphate.

Somehow, Fox News can't find it in their hearts to welcome his achievement. They clearly think it's a bad idea and a sign that Europe has gone to the dogs.

Can't say that I agree with them just yet.

Rotterdam has a Muslim mayor for years

View

Tea drinker wrote: »

It shows that integration doesn't work if the immigrants vote en masse based on skin colour/religion etc for a guy with a cosy relationship with terrorists who target the place where londoners live.

Khan got votes from across London and no it wasn't based on skin colour/religion since, for instance, a person from an Indian Hindu background might share skin colour with someone from someone from a Pakistani Muslim one but they don't share a religion; nor are either likely to share either with people with Polish or Irish backgrounds much less the many people with "ordinary" English backgrounds who voted for him.

Madd Finn

weisses wrote: »

Rotterdam has a Muslim mayor for years

I stand corrected.

Maybe I should have been more careful of press reports which described Khan as the first muslim mayor of a "major European CAPITAL".

I suppose Sarajevo has had a few Muslim mayors, or equivalents. But then maybe it's not "major" enough.

Madd Finn

View wrote: »

Khan got votes from across London and no it wasn't based on skin colour/religion since, for instance, a person from an Indian Hindu background might share skin colour with someone from someone from a Pakistani Muslim one but they don't share a religion; nor are either likely to share either with people with Polish or Irish backgrounds much less the many people with "ordinary" English backgrounds who voted for him.

Very true. Only one in 8 Londoners is Muslim, so even if ALL of them voted for him, and I suspect some of the harder line Muslims wouldn't have given his support for such outlandish things as same-sex marriage.

London is, and always has been, a melting pot. In a generation or two the Pakistanis will have been stewed down into a delicious sallow colour owing to the fact that human beings are just too delicious to keep their hands off each other.

Like happened to the Normans over here consummating away like crazy will all those lovely Irish colleens. Notwithstanding idiotic attempts to keep them apart like the Statutes of Kilkenny.

Give it three generations.