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    #5402
    Iceboy
    Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭Iceboy


    long range shooter wrote: »
    To be honest i dont now whos worse of the two.

    Hilary is x100 worse

    Anyone who thinks different is delusional or misinformed

    http://www.ibtimes.com/jill-stein-news-green-party-nominee-claims-hillary-clinton-scarier-donald-trump-2431507


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    #5403
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Call us back when Hillary reminisces about protesters getting carried out on stretchers, and that their attackers would have their legal fees covered.


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    #5404
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    oik wrote: »
    Do you believe hers but not his?

    I think the more important question Oik is which Donald do you believe?

    The one that boasted in secret about molesting women, or the one that said 'There's nobody that has more respect for women than I do'?

    Both can't be true. So tell us which of the Donald's statements was a lie?

    Moreover since you believe Donald so fervently and as he said himself 'I tell it like it is' why do you not believe him when he said molests women?

    Any wisdom you could share with us on the logic of that.


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    #5405
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    I think the more important question Oik is which Donald do you believe?

    The one that boasted in secret about molesting women, or the one that said 'There's nobody that has more respect for women than I do'?

    Both can't be true. So tell us which of the Donald's statements was a lie?

    Moreover since you believe Donald so fervently and as he said himself 'I tell it like it is' why do you not believe him when he said molests women?

    Any wisdom you could share with us on the logic of that.

    It's possible that both of them are lies.

    His taped statement always implied the encounters were consensual. There was no suggestion the women weren't willing. "They let you do it"


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    #5406
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Call us back when Hillary reminisces about protesters getting carried out on stretchers, and that their attackers would have their legal fees covered.

    What about when Hillary enquired about assassinating journalists?


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    #5407
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    oik wrote: »
    It's possible that both of them are lies.

    His taped statement always implied the encounters were consensual. There was no suggestion the women weren't willing. "They let you do it"

    He said he didn't wait. Once more, that is sexual assault. You can deny that forever and a day but basic human decency and the law won't change.

    If both were lies Oik that would mean he did molest those women BTW.

    So either your candidate is a half liar, a half liar and a molester or a total liar and molester.

    This bodes well for the future.


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    #5408
    Iceboy
    Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭Iceboy


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Call us back when Hillary reminisces about protesters getting carried out on stretchers, and that their attackers would have their legal fees covered.

    You think that a few words is worse than the actions and crimes that Hilary Clinton has committed over all these years?


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    #5409
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    If both were lies Oik that would mean he did molest those women BTW.

    Bait and switch.

    One of the options you proposed was "I have the most respect for women".

    Just because that's a lie doesn't mean he molested anyone.


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    #5410
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    oik wrote: »
    Bait and switch.

    One of the options you proposed was "I have the most respect for women".

    Just because that's a lie doesn't mean he molested anyone.

    Okay well lets restate it then.

    Which Trump is telling the truth.

    The one who claims he molests women? Or the one that says that, and the accusations of the women are lies?

    And can you explain why one of Donald's claims you believe and the other you don't?


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    #5411
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    Okay well lets restate it then.

    Which Trump is telling the truth.

    The one who claims he molests women? Or the one that says that, and the accusations of the women are lies?

    And can you explain why one of Donald's claims you believe and the other you don't?

    He never claimed he molests women.

    We can only judge each accusation on its own merits.

    You don't judge someone's guilt based on words. You need an actus reus.

    Your attempt to make this a simple yes no did he ever molest anyone without the enforcing the burden of pointing to any specific examples is transparent jiggery-pokery.


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    #5412
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users Posts: 11,192 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Weather you like the man or hate the man you have to admit you get a laugh out of him :pac:

    The most unlikely presidential candidate ever.


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    #5413
    Iceboy
    Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭Iceboy


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    He said he didn't wait. Once more, that is sexual assault. You can deny that forever and a day but basic human decency and the law won't change.

    If both were lies Oik that would mean he did molest those women BTW.

    So either your candidate is a half liar, a half liar and a molester or a total liar and molester.

    This bodes well for the future.

    Billionaire surrounded by hot women for 40 years throwing themselves at him

    No sexual assault claims....until 4 weeks before an election in 2016

    Seems legit


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    #5414
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,447 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Iceboy wrote: »
    Billionaire surrounded by hot women for 40 years throwing themselves at him

    No sexual assault claims....until 4 weeks before an election in 2016

    Seems legit

    these are not the first claims made against him.


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    #5415
    ArtSmart
    Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    oik wrote: »
    What about when Hillary enquired about assassinating journalists?
    In fairness, it was only journalists she didn't like.


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    #5416
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    oik wrote: »
    He never claimed he molests women.

    We can only judge each accusation on its own merits.

    You don't judge someone's guilt based on words. You need an actus reus.

    Your attempt to make this a simple yes no did he ever molest anyone without the enforcing the burden of pointing to any specific examples is transparent jiggery-pokery.

    What is transparent is the fact that you refuse to acknowledge what is not even up for debate. That Trump described molesting women without their consent.

    In all seriousness Oik, I don't know if you are a parent but if one of your (grown) children told you a man touched them without permission how would you react?


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    #5417
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    What is transparent is the fact that you refuse to acknowledge what is not even up for debate. That Trump described molesting women without their consent.

    In all seriousness Oik, I don't know if you are a parent but if one of your (grown) children told you a man touched them without permission how would you react?

    By bringing up my family you're engaging in a transparent attempt to make me think irrationally, as we all do when it comes to our families.

    But if I need to be in an irrational mindset in order to agree with you what does that say about your position?


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    #5418
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Iceboy wrote: »
    Billionaire surrounded by hot women for 40 years throwing themselves at him

    No sexual assault claims....until 4 weeks before an election in 2016

    Seems legit

    That is demonstrably false. Oh and by the way do you know what also happened in these few weeks? A tape emerged of Donald Trump stating that he molested women... then he went on stage at the second debate and had to be asked three times before he answered that he didn't.


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    #5419
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    oik wrote: »
    What about when Hillary enquired about assassinating journalists?

    Is this about the time she wondered aloud about calling a drone strike on Assange? If she was serious, then yeah, that was disgusting. Something tells me she was well aware of the difficulties of landing a drone strike accurate enough to just kill Assange and hurt no-one else in the Ecuadorian embassy in London. At best, she cracked a classless "joke" about assassinating Assange.


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    #5420
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    A tape emerged of Donald Trump stating that he molested women

    No matter how many times you keep spinning it it won't make it true.


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    #5421
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Is this about the time she wondered aloud about calling a drone strike on Assange? If she was serious, then yeah, that was disgusting. Something tells me she was well aware of the difficulties of landing a drone strike accurate enough to just kill Assange and hurt no-one else in the Ecuadorian embassy in London. At best, she cracked a classless "joke" about assassinating Assange.

    When Hillary does it it's just a joke.

    What about when she actually does it though...



    Where in the joke did she say anything about sparing Londoners and embassy staff in her attack?

    She's not exactly afraid of collateral damage. Particularly as it concerns embassy staff.


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    #5422
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    oik wrote: »
    No matter how many times you keep spinning it it won't make it true.

    No matter how many times you ignore it the Donald said he molests women.


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    #5423
    Iceboy
    Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭Iceboy


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Is this about the time she wondered aloud about calling a drone strike on Assange? If she was serious, then yeah, that was disgusting. Something tells me she was well aware of the difficulties of landing a drone strike accurate enough to just kill Assange and hurt no-one else in the Ecuadorian embassy in London. At best, she cracked a classless "joke" about assassinating Assange.

    This is Hilary Clinton we are talking about here, Mrs Trigger happy war monger, not your average joe..


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    #5424
    gosplan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    oik wrote: »
    When Hillary does it it's just a joke.

    What about when she actually does it though...



    Where in the joke did she say anything about sparing Londoners and embassy staff in her attack?

    She's not exactly afraid of collateral damage. Particularly as it concerns embassy staff.

    So are you saying she wasn't joking?

    She was suggesting a drone strike in an embassy in London?


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    #5425
    ArtSmart
    Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    Although, in fairness, it has to be said that a lot of Orangutan males do tend to grab first, and ask questions later.


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    #5426
    ArtSmart
    Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    Also I'm pretty sure Hillary was referring the one of the super secret mini-drones.

    Like that space armada/ expedition which came to attack earth in Hitch-hikers Guide, but were eaten by a dog.

    According to my sources, the mini-drone flew up whatisface's nose, exploded, but succeeded only in clearing his sinus problem.


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    #5427
    Fleawuss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Fleawuss


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    Although, in fairness, it has to be said that a lot of Orangutan males do tend to grab first, and ask questions later.

    +1 for getting the Orange into orangutan


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    #5428
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Iceboy wrote: »
    This is Hilary Clinton we are talking about here, Mrs Trigger happy war monger, not your average joe..

    Remind me, what does Drumpf plan on doing to the families of suspected terrorists?


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    #5429
    Iceboy
    Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭Iceboy


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu132J6VIAQJUnz.jpg


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    #5430
    Pro Hoc Vice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    ArtSmart wrote: »
    Although, in fairness, it has to be said that a lot of Orangutan males do tend to grab first, and ask questions later.

    The good one liner is alive and well.


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    #5431
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,577 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Iceboy wrote: »
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu132J6VIAQJUnz.jpg

    How is 2 consenting adults having a sexual relationship considered abusive?


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