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More sexual assault allegations.
... Quick think of something.
"We should take drug tests before Wednesdays debate "
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For anyone not bothered reading the two fringe right conspiracy sites above, it says this email "proves" Sanders was bribed into supporting Clinton! :pac:
Somewhat O/T, but some other sites I've seen, insist you excerpt what you think is important from a link, rather than just post the link with a sentence like "See, this confirms what I'm saying." I wonder if boards supports that? You'd want to be able to include the link as well, it just isn't clickable.0 -
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/wikileaks-email-shows-bernie-sanders-was-paid-off-to-support-hillary/
http://cooltobeconservative.com/2016/10/breaking-hillary-camp-caught-bribing-women-to-accuse-trump-of-rape-email-leaked/
http://yournewswire.com/wikileaks-hillary-one-world-government/
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/05/03/pulitzer-prize-winning-journalist-hillary-approved-sending-sarin-gas-to-rebels-to-frame-assad-start-syrian-war/
1 is basically a HRC campaign saying 'let's agree with Bernie not do negative ads'. The headline is a lie based on the story.
2 isn't wiki leaks, is clearly fake, and is run by a site that says 'let's hope this isn't fake'
3 is a single comment about an open hemisphere
4 has nothing to do with HRC. It's about the CIA and the best you can do with that is 'she probably knew then'.
Can you guys critically think or do you just read the headline and believe it?0 -
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Just think how different this would have all been if Mitt Romney had got in when he had the chance.0
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Drug tests before the debate. I think Trump is just trolling us for fun now.0
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Just think how different this would have all been if Mitt Romney had got in when he had the chance.
It's the fault of the republican leadership.
They happily abandoned many of their principles and stoked up the fringe right birther tea party crowd. All simply because anyone against Obama was great.
Now they have to figure out how to rebuild the party before they lose 2020 too.0 -
..So, as I was saying, so far, nothing particularly interesting has shown up out of them.
At this point I am honestly confused as to how anyone can support this pillock. If you don't care about the women thing, there's the trying to undermine a Mexican judge overseeing his case because he's Mexican. If you don't care about Mexicans or using racism as a cheap shot against someone because it's their job to decide if you're breaking the law or not, there's his uneconomic plans for his country. If you don't really get economics then firstly, welcome to the rest of the world, there's a reason it's called the Dismal Science and secondly, ...actually, this would be easier to write as a list.
In no particular order, there's just so many that I'm writing them as they occur.
- "grab 'em by the pussy"
- Allegations going back years regarding Mr. Trump grabbing people by the pussy, touching them sexually without their consent (pro tip, have their implied consent -before- touching them, not after)
- "I go backstage and there's all these beautiful women naked, and I get away with it because I'm the owner" (paraphrased)
- Allegations of his going backstage to look at beautiful women naked and getting away with it because he's the owner - and a major sleaze.
- The Atlantic City con job.
- Using said AC con job to get out of paying taxes for the next nearly two decades. "That makes me smart". No, it makes him an asshole.
- "They're not sending their best. They're sending their rapists - wow, I actually went and looked up that statement again and found his written statement which is actually worse. He doubled down on "They’re bringing drugs.They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people!" That difference between "their" (the Mexican government are sending THEIR rapists), and "they're" "They are rapists" is actually astounding. So far, in the interests of fairness I gave him the benefit of the doubt on "their". He claimed it was "they're".
- His frank lack of understanding about nuclear weapons policy.
- His frank lack of comprehension of foreign relations. But sure, Russia only invaded the Ukraine in 2014. You can't expect poor Trump to know that by only 2016.
- His claims of Mexicans bringing disease.
- Ban all Muslims.
- His raft of bankruptcies and failed businesses. This matters because he's running on what can charitably be called a platform of being the best yuge businessman out there.
- Encouraging audiences at his rallies to harm protesters.
- Wanting to reduce protections of the First Amendment.
- His "tax plan" which is pretty much another version of his Atlantic City con. Please note that his tax plan would mostly benefit himself and a very few others in a similar situation. He's planning on paying for it the way he likes to pay things, with other peoples' money.
- His admiration of Kim Jong Un for inheriting a basketcase country at 25 and killing people that disagreed with him. That's not an achievement. George III inherited a kingdom from his father and he thought he was made of glass.
- His admiration of Putin, al-Assad, Gaddafi and Hussein for being "strong leaders". The man running for high office most admires leaders that remove the rights from those that disagree with him. Think about that for a moment.
- Attacking anyone that he feels is in the way, down to and including fire marshals.
- His thinnest of thin skins. A man who can be baited by a tweet/comment (Alicia Machado amongst many others) is really not someone you want in charge of nukes.
- His inability to take criticism.
- His inability to negotiate, as shown by his managing to insult and alienate even his own party. Although he and the president of the Philippines debating anything could be car crash television.
Rodrigo Duterte: This son of a whore thinking he can tell me what to do!
Trump: Failed dictator calling The Donald a son of a whore, disgusting CNN reporting on it until I threw them in jail. Where's the nukes?
- That all someone has to do is compliment him (or deride one of his enemies) and he'll be licking all over them. The man would sell Missouri if the highest bidder looked starry-eyed at him and proclaimed him a Glorious Leader. And he calls himself a negotiator. Look at David Duke and Alex Jones for examples of that.
So far, that's just off the top of my head. So final reason;
- Type "trump gaffes" and note that the autosuggest gives "today", "last week" and "of the week". He can't open his mouth without shoving his foot down it.
Anyone else want to add some more? I know I've missed lots. This list could be yuge. It could be the biggest list.0 -
Looking at the comments there, I think I just found the basket of deplorables!0 -
HellSquirrel wrote: »..So, as I was saying, so far, nothing particularly interesting has shown up out of them.
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At this point I am honestly confused as to how anyone can support this pillock.
Anyone else want to add some more? I know I've missed lots. This list could be yuge. It could be the biggest list.
First off, I'm so not worthy. What a great list. The best!
I'd add all the neo-nazi retweets and the recent "speech" about the NWO or Globalization conspiracy or whatever anti-semitic crap that he gave in Florida.
Add in the tone-deafness (tone dead in his case I think, whatever's worse than tone-deafness) where he gave the speech. You think there might've been people in the area with first-hand experience with paleoNazis? It's Florida.0 -
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He's gonna make America great again though..0
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Somewhat O/T, but some other sites I've seen, insist you excerpt what you think is important from a link, rather than just post the link with a sentence like "See, this confirms what I'm saying." I wonder if boards supports that? You'd want to be able to include the link as well, it just isn't clickable.
There ya go, was part of the article from the first of link dumpies series if link dumps directly above my quote, just now you get the full email without the absurdist spin.0 -
HellSquirrel wrote: »..So, as I was saying, so far, nothing particularly interesting has shown up out of them.
At this point I am honestly confused as to how anyone can support this pillock. If you don't care about the women thing, there's the trying to undermine a Mexican judge overseeing his case because he's Mexican. If you don't care about Mexicans or using racism as a cheap shot against someone because it's their job to decide if you're breaking the law or not, there's his uneconomic plans for his country. If you don't really get economics then firstly, welcome to the rest of the world, there's a reason it's called the Dismal Science and secondly, ...actually, this would be easier to write as a list.
In no particular order, there's just so many that I'm writing them as they occur.
- "grab 'em by the pussy"
- Allegations going back years regarding Mr. Trump grabbing people by the pussy, touching them sexually without their consent (pro tip, have their implied consent -before- touching them, not after)
- "I go backstage and there's all these beautiful women naked, and I get away with it because I'm the owner" (paraphrased)
- Allegations of his going backstage to look at beautiful women naked and getting away with it because he's the owner - and a major sleaze.
- The Atlantic City con job.
- Using said AC con job to get out of paying taxes for the next nearly two decades. "That makes me smart". No, it makes him an asshole.
- "They're not sending their best. They're sending their rapists - wow, I actually went and looked up that statement again and found his written statement which is actually worse. He doubled down on "They’re bringing drugs.They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people!" That difference between "their" (the Mexican government are sending THEIR rapists), and "they're" "They are rapists" is actually astounding. So far, in the interests of fairness I gave him the benefit of the doubt on "their". He claimed it was "they're".
- His frank lack of understanding about nuclear weapons policy.
- His frank lack of comprehension of foreign relations. But sure, Russia only invaded the Ukraine in 2014. You can't expect poor Trump to know that by only 2016.
- His claims of Mexicans bringing disease.
- Ban all Muslims.
- His raft of bankruptcies and failed businesses. This matters because he's running on what can charitably be called a platform of being the best yuge businessman out there.
- Encouraging audiences at his rallies to harm protesters.
- Wanting to reduce protections of the First Amendment.
- His "tax plan" which is pretty much another version of his Atlantic City con. Please note that his tax plan would mostly benefit himself and a very few others in a similar situation. He's planning on paying for it the way he likes to pay things, with other peoples' money.
- His admiration of Kim Jong Un for inheriting a basketcase country at 25 and killing people that disagreed with him. That's not an achievement. George III inherited a kingdom from his father and he thought he was made of glass.
- His admiration of Putin, al-Assad, Gaddafi and Hussein for being "strong leaders". The man running for high office most admires leaders that remove the rights from those that disagree with him. Think about that for a moment.
- Attacking anyone that he feels is in the way, down to and including fire marshals.
- His thinnest of thin skins. A man who can be baited by a tweet/comment (Alicia Machado amongst many others) is really not someone you want in charge of nukes.
- His inability to take criticism.
- His inability to negotiate, as shown by his managing to insult and alienate even his own party. Although he and the president of the Philippines debating anything could be car crash television.
Rodrigo Duterte: This son of a whore thinking he can tell me what to do!
Trump: Failed dictator calling The Donald a son of a whore, disgusting CNN reporting on it until I threw them in jail. Where's the nukes?
- That all someone has to do is compliment him (or deride one of his enemies) and he'll be licking all over them. The man would sell Missouri if the highest bidder looked starry-eyed at him and proclaimed him a Glorious Leader. And he calls himself a negotiator. Look at David Duke and Alex Jones for examples of that.
So far, that's just off the top of my head. So final reason;
- Type "trump gaffes" and note that the autosuggest gives "today", "last week" and "of the week". He can't open his mouth without shoving his foot down it.
Anyone else want to add some more? I know I've missed lots. This list could be yuge. It could be the biggest list.
Sure, so he has very different opinions to yours. Maybe if you were a little more tolerant and open minded, you could see that.
Maybe you dislike him because he is a old white Christian man? If his views were by a young black Muslim woman, would you be so intolerant?
If he was gay would people let the attitude to sex and celebrity be the same as him being a straight man?
There is so much hate for Donald Trump, I wonder is it because he represents everything hated by the "liberal" media. A straight white Christian male - quick! Run for the hills! I thought we had killed them all off!
Rather than looking at what benefits he could bring, it is instead simply a negatively spun "this guy is bad", throw enough dirt and hope something sticks for every interest group you want to be on your side. Pretty distasteful TBH, but not surprising in this day and age.
Too many women voting for Trump? Try to get the label of "sexist" to stick
Too many muslims voting for Trump? Well get the old religious bigotry label to stick
and so on....
That is why he said everything he did, to "own" all the identity-politics labels that the liberal media uses to bully people. That is why, even if Hillary wins, the reality of the problems on the ground are not going to go away. You cannot wallpaper over the real problems by calling anyone who disagrees x,y,z label/name/insult and hoping to push them and their supporters away.0 -
dissed doc wrote: »There is so much hate for Donald Trump, I wonder is it because he represents everything hated by the "liberal" media. A straight white Christian male - quick!
I dont hate him because he is a straight white male...he is just an asshole.0 -
I see our own miss piggy is getting notions of grandeur.
As if any POTUS would be working with her....
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/trump-disgusts-me-but-i-will-work-with-him-if-i-must-mary-mitchell-oconnor-35133778.html0 -
I see our own miss piggy is getting notions of grandeur.
As if any POTUS would be working with her....
Lovely. Although that fits in well with this election in general.0 -
dissed doc wrote: »There is so much hate for Donald Trump, I wonder is it because he represents everything hated by the "liberal" media. A straight white Christian male - quick! Run for the hills! I thought we had killed them all off!0
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Those backing Trump now have to accept that he's suggesting HRC used performance enhancing drugs before their last debate.
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Sure, so he has very different opinions to yours. Maybe if you were a little more tolerant and open minded, you could see that.Maybe you dislike him because he is a old white Christian man? If his views were by a young black Muslim woman, would you be so intolerant?If he was gay would people let the attitude to sex and celebrity be the same as him being a straight man?There is so much hate for Donald Trump, I wonder is it because he represents everything hated by the "liberal" media. A straight white Christian male - quick! Run for the hills! I thought we had killed them all off!Rather than looking at what benefits he could bring, it is instead simply a negatively spun "this guy is bad", throw enough dirt and hope something sticks for every interest group you want to be on your side. Pretty distasteful TBH, but not surprising in this day and age.Too many women voting for Trump? Try to get the label of "sexist" to stick
Too many muslims voting for Trump? Well get the old religious bigotry label to stick
and so on....That is why he said everything he did, to "own" all the identity-politics labels that the liberal media uses to bully people. That is why, even if Hillary wins, the reality of the problems on the ground are not going to go away. You cannot wallpaper over the real problems by calling anyone who disagrees x,y,z label/name/insult and hoping to push them and their supporters away.
Well, congratulations on the most far-reaching interpretations of his idiocy any Trump-supporter has managed to reach. The far more likely explanation is that he said them (and usually weakly denies he said it when it's on tape) because he's an idiot.0 -
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Do us all a favour if you can stop yourself from playing the victim card for just a brief second, and tell us if this is the case why the same people don't hate people like Joe Biden or Tim Kaine for being straight, white Christian males.
THat was not my point - I was merely indicating that there was a huge amount of negative naming and negative identity politics being used against Trump. I certainly don't think he is a victim, or that anyone is playing the victim card. There was a huge list of all Trump's "wrongs". Hopefully one for everyone in the audience, right?
Instead, I am indicating that the actual things he does or will do are potentially much better than the things Clinton does or will do. Clinton will further enrich the very powerful globalists like Soros, and Trump will not, he is the underdog, the outsider. Clinton is an insider, very very much so. Very well connected, with massive amounts of money backing her. A lot of people have invested in her and they will be looking for a result.
I am sure you can find something in the list to justify why Trump is bad. Mostly, that is simply using the 1990s era identity politics from when people did not have access to information like they do now. "He is racist don't vote for him, you're not a racist, right", "He is sexist, don't vote for him, unless you hate women, right" and so on ad nauseam.
Let's just ignore the giant mess of the middle east and north Africa that is purging itself into Europe that Clinton has been key ingenerating. Let's ignore the corruption between the Clinton Foundation, the Saudi government and ISIS. Let's ignore how CLinton is effectively a puppet of George Soros who has destroyed Ukraine.
Because Trump is the bad guy!. Choose your hate label and shout about it. He hates women! He hates blacks! He hates freedom (well that identity label doesn't have the power it used to seeing as freedoms get easily curtailed these days in case it causes offence)! War is peace! Ignorance is strength! Trump hates Mexicans! Trump hates gays! Anything else? Any other label you want to throw around?
Attacking Trump because of any of the labels that have been thrown at him has got to be the largest collective action of stupidity in history. Mature adults don't have so much of their egos invested into yesteryear's identity politics, and that is why, even if Trump loses, the issues will simply get worse, because CLinton's type in power is massively destructive to everyone.0 -
Attacking the people commenting on Trump's own words, policies, opinions and comments when he wants to represent a powerful and supposedly first world nation is, I respectfully suggest, far dumber than anything you've accused the other side of.
This is a man that doesn't know what a white supremacist is (in his own words) when David Duke, the GRAND WIZARD OF THE KKK, is endorsing him.
I weep for the post-fact world.0 -
HellSquirrel wrote: »Attacking the people commenting on Trump's own words, policies, opinions and comments when he wants to represent a powerful and supposedly first world nation is, I respectfully suggest, far dumber than anything you've accused the other side of.
This is a man that doesn't know what a white supremacist is (in his own words) when David Duke, the GRAND WIZARD OF THE KKK, is endorsing him.
That is exactly what you are doing - not commenting on his policies, but instead associating Trump with a white supremacist because somewhere around 10 years ago it actually mattered and people were naive and tried to be "on message" with the standard groups. These days, who cares really.
David Duke eats ice cream. Do you eat ice cream too? Well that makes you a racist KKK supporting moron. That is the level of argument I am seeing. Quit calling him "x" name and actually look at his policy for e.g., Libya vs Clintons.0 -
dissed doc wrote: »I am sure you can find something in the list to justify why Trump is bad. Mostly, that is simply using the 1990s era identity politics from when people did not have access to information like they do now. "He is racist don't vote for him, you're not a racist, right", "He is sexist, don't vote for him, unless you hate women, right" and so on ad nauseam.
No. Its mostly using 21st century television where I can actually watch the man speak. His every speech is broadcast live on TV. Every day. Every single day I listen to his unedited words and he's a babbling barely coherent idiot. He speaks gibberish like an over excited 12 year old and I can't wait for the day when we won't have to hear his whiny complaining anymore.0 -
HellSquirrel wrote: »Attacking the people commenting on Trump's own words, policies, opinions and comments when he wants to represent a powerful and supposedly first world nation is, I respectfully suggest, far dumber than anything you've accused the other side of.
This is a man that doesn't know what a white supremacist is (in his own words) when David Duke, the GRAND WIZARD OF THE KKK, is endorsing him.
I weep for the post-fact world.
he also refused to reject Duke's endorsement, claiming that he didn't know who he was, when there was footage of him saying he knew him.0 -
There is a major difference, disseddoc. I am saying that Trump DID NOT KNOW WHAT THE KKK WAS when its Grand Wizard was endorsing him. Taking an endorsement is an endorsement in return, it is saying "I accept your support and tacitly condone what you stand for". That is why presidential candidates do not take the endorsements of people whose stated aim involves harming other citizens of the nation.
Also, I have attacked his policies. Repeatedly. You, on the other hand, have complained that this is unfair and Trump is a poor misunderstood man who doesn't deserve it. Like, choose a position here. You can't have it all ways.0 -
dissed doc wrote: »THat was not my point - I was merely indicating that there was a huge amount of negative naming and negative identity politics being used against Trump. I certainly don't think he is a victim, or that anyone is playing the victim card. There was a huge list of all Trump's "wrongs". Hopefully one for everyone in the audience, right?
Trying to shift the goalposts now doesn't stop that from being the point you were trying to make then.Instead, I am indicating that the actual things he does or will do are potentially much better than the things Clinton does or will do. Clinton will further enrich the very powerful globalists like Soros, and Trump will not, he is the underdog, the outsider. Clinton is an insider, very very much so. Very well connected, with massive amounts of money backing her. A lot of people have invested in her and they will be looking for a result.
The example you have given is completely false as all Trump has ever tried to do his whole life is make himself richer and richer at the expense of the working and middle classes.I am sure you can find something in the list to justify why Trump is bad. Mostly, that is simply using the 1990s era identity politics from when people did not have access to information like they do now. "He is racist don't vote for him, you're not a racist, right", "He is sexist, don't vote for him, unless you hate women, right" and so on ad nauseam.Let's just ignore the giant mess of the middle east and north Africa that is purging itself into Europe that Clinton has been key ingenerating. Let's ignore the corruption between the Clinton Foundation, the Saudi government and ISIS. Let's ignore how CLinton is effectively a puppet of George Soros who has destroyed Ukraine.Because Trump is the bad guy!. Choose your hate label and shout about it. He hates women! He hates blacks! He hates freedom (well that identity label doesn't have the power it used to seeing as freedoms get easily curtailed these days in case it causes offence)! War is peace! Ignorance is strength! Trump hates Mexicans! Trump hates gays! Anything else? Any other label you want to throw around?
Again, welcome to the real world where people who make racist, sexist or bigoted remarks are called for that, and people who support something don't get to criticise it and claim they never did support it after the point. It's called accountability, Trump has no sense of it and Trump fans seem openly hostile to it. Which is why they - Trump fans who cannot face up to reality - have played a big role in his losing this election.Attacking Trump because of any of the labels that have been thrown at him has got to be the largest collective action of stupidity in history. Mature adults don't have so much of their egos invested into yesteryear's identity politics, and that is why, even if Trump loses, the issues will simply get worse, because CLinton's type in power is massively destructive to everyone.
Your post is a great example... I mean if your point was not "There is so much hate for Donald Trump, I wonder is it because he represents everything hated by the "liberal" media. A straight white Christian male - quick! Run for the hills! I thought we had killed them all off!"... then why did you say "There is so much hate for Donald Trump, I wonder is it because he represents everything hated by the "liberal" media. A straight white Christian male - quick! Run for the hills! I thought we had killed them all off!"?
The answer is easy: it's exactly what you meant, and it says a lot more about you than it does non-whites, non-Christians or females. Playing the victim card has turned into rule #2 of being a Trump fan, right in behind going out of your way to reject reality. Which is why you're now trying to deflect and shift the goalposts because you have absolutely zero answer as to why those same people don't hate straight, white Christian males like Joe Biden and Tim Kaine.0 -
dissed doc wrote: »That is exactly what you are doing - not commenting on his policies, but instead associating Trump with a white supremacist because somewhere around 10 years ago it actually mattered and people were naive and tried to be "on message" with the standard groups. These days, who cares really.
David Duke eats ice cream. Do you eat ice cream too? Well that makes you a racist KKK supporting moron. That is the level of argument I am seeing. Quit calling him "x" name and actually look at his policy for e.g., Libya vs Clintons.
Yeah... I wonder why oh why those big meanies in the real world claim he is a bigot, and why they claim he far more likely to ruin economies, and just as if not more likely to cause war as Clinton is. I really do wonder why...
*Sure if you want to get rid of all illegal immigrants that's one thing - albeit absolutely impossible to achieve. If you get rid of them all at the one go however, you absolutely will ruin the US economy in an instant.0 -
dissed doc wrote: »That is exactly what you are doing - not commenting on his policies, but instead associating Trump with a white supremacist because somewhere around 10 years ago it actually mattered and people were naive and tried to be "on message" with the standard groups. These days, who cares really.
David Duke eats ice cream. Do you eat ice cream too? Well that makes you a racist KKK supporting moron. That is the level of argument I am seeing. Quit calling him "x" name and actually look at his policy for e.g., Libya vs Clintons.
Surely Tim Kaine should suffer the same abuse for being a straight white male if your conclusion was correct. Or the many many many straight white males currently in office who don't suffer the same criticism that Trump does.
Are you going to keep arguing this on a vague general level or put up a serious argument ad to why him calling Mexican's rapists does not make him a racist or how him discussing the fact that he gropes women and dismisses their questions as it must be their time of the month does not make him a sexist?0 -
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dissed doc wrote: »That is exactly what you are doing - not commenting on his policies, but instead associating Trump with a white supremacist because somewhere around 10 years ago it actually mattered and people were naive and tried to be "on message" with the standard groups. These days, who cares really.
David Duke eats ice cream. Do you eat ice cream too? Well that makes you a racist KKK supporting moron. That is the level of argument I am seeing. Quit calling him "x" name and actually look at his policy for e.g., Libya vs Clintons.
Hey Doc, do you think HRC was on PEDs for the debate? If so, what kind of drugs improve your debating skills?
Do you think it should make a difference if a candidate uses public speeches to put forward completely false conspiracy theories?
How would you feel if Trump spoke about aliens at a rally?0
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