Donald Trump

Ilovemybricks

Billy86 wrote: »

So no different than the US border police currently do then.

US border agents shot six people trying to illegally enter the US from Mexico in the last 25 years. Two were throwing missiles, one was attacking an agent, one was a trafficker and two were bogey as feck/murder.

So, no. Not like the US border police currently do.

Billy86

Ilovemybricks wrote: »

US border agents shot six people trying to illegally enter the US from Mexico in the last 25 years. Two were throwing missiles, one was attacking an agent, one was a trafficker and two were bogey as feck/murder.

So, no. Not like the US border police currently do.

They have have killed more than that in the last 20 months alone. So yes, like the US border police currently do. Did you think all of those guns were there for show?

InTheTrees

Ilovemybricks wrote: »

The Mexican border patrol will shoot you. They ****ing kill people trying to cross the border illegally.

Really? I've searched the interwebs and found nothing on that.
There's been 90,000 illegals a year deported from Mexico so obviously they got in without being shot.

seamus

Trump still believes that Obama wasn't born in America;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-birther_us_57db31d1e4b04a1497b37811

What I find hilarious is that the Trump camp's only two cards now appear to be "Hillary is a liar" and "Hillary is an invalid". Which are two statements that might easily apply to Trump. The first certainly.

Hilary is a devious and intelligent liar. Trump is a bare-faced, stupid and compulsive liar.

America has to pick one. I know which one I would rather have in charge.

osarusan

seamus wrote: »

Trump still believes that Obama wasn't born in America;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-birther_us_57db31d1e4b04a1497b37811

The article itself is decent with direct quotes and named sources, but the 'Editor's Note' at the bottom of that article (and many articles dealing with Trump) is sad stuff really. Just give us the facts and let us decide.

jacksie66

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seamus

jacksie66 wrote: »

And yet you quote the Huffington post. The credibility of your post goes out the window with that.

It's literally all over the internet today. I just plucked the first result from a newsfeed.

Here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/16/us/politics/donald-trump-birther-obama.html?_r=0
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther-united-states/

The article itself is decent with direct quotes and named sources, but the 'Editor's Note' at the bottom of that article (and many articles dealing with Trump) is sad stuff really. Just give us the facts and let us decide.

Yeesh, I didn't even spot that. There was a brief time when HuffPo was considered a shining example of independent quality journalism.

Penn

osarusan wrote: »

The article itself is decent with direct quotes and named sources, but the 'Editor's Note' at the bottom of that article (and many articles dealing with Trump) is sad stuff really. Just give us the facts and let us decide.

Yeah, they've had that Editor's Note on every article that mentions Trump for probably about 6 months now.

The_Captain

That kind of lecturing "we know better" tone is the thing pushing people to Trump

Christy42

The_Captain wrote: »

That kind of lecturing "we know better" tone is the thing pushing people to Trump

People should find better reasons to vote than the other side happen to be a bit on a high horse. That is a terrible reason to vote for someone and if someone votes on this basis alone it kinda proves that other do in fact know better.

20Cent

The_Captain wrote: »

That kind of lecturing "we know better" tone is the thing pushing people to Trump

Thought Trump supporters were in favour of "telling it like it is".

Penn

20Cent wrote: »

Thought Trump supporters were in favour of "telling it like it is".

Unlike Trump who'll sue anyone and their mother if they "tell it like it is" about him.

B0jangles

Keith Olbermann's video on why Trump is an unfit candidate (to put it mildly) is worth a watch:

http://www.gq.com/story/176-reasons-donald-trump-shouldnt-be-president-olbermann

Video is embedded in the linked page which also has a handy transcript with links backing up all of the remarks.

wes

The_Captain wrote: »

That kind of lecturing "we know better" tone is the thing pushing people to Trump

Do they need a safe space .........

Its amazing how similar Trumpeters are to the caricature they complain about.

Butters1979

Christy42 wrote: »

People should find better reasons to vote than the other side happen to be a bit on a high horse. That is a terrible reason to vote for someone and if someone votes on this basis alone it kinda proves that other do in fact know better.

I say people should know better than to vote for someone just because of others 'we know better' rhetoric. !!! Classic.

Christy42

Butters1979 wrote: »

I say people should know better than to vote for someone just because of others 'we know better' rhetoric. !!! Classic.

Essentially. All this saying people are driving support towards Trump because of name calling (seriously towards the biggest name caller of all) is an excuse so they don't need to give a reason for supporting him.

Turns out people are all for telling it like it is as long as it isn't about them. Even Trump himself can't see why people get insulted when he talks and yet goes to pieces when things are said about him. He can dish it out but can't take it is the phrase that comes to mind.

pumpkin4life

I wonder how much of the above stuff is that important? Sure, Trump is a master of rhetoric, but even so...

Trump is the Republican candidate and the more than likely next president, because America has been on the decline for the past few decades and people are sick to shìte of whats going on around them.

If Trump didn't exist, there would be someone else doing the exact same thing he has, is and will be doing.

Hande hoche!

He's supposed to be making a major announcement shortly. Perhaps in relation to Obama?

Pro Hoc Vice

Hande hoche! wrote: »

He's supposed to be making a major announcement shortly. Perhaps in relation to Obama?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-birther-announcement-dc-watch-liv

Butters1979

Christy42 wrote: »

Essentially. All this saying people are driving support towards Trump because of name calling (seriously towards the biggest name caller of all) is an excuse so they don't need to give a reason for supporting him.

Turns out people are all for telling it like it is as long as it isn't about them. Even Trump himself can't see why people get insulted when he talks and yet goes to pieces when things are said about him. He can dish it out but can't take it is the phrase that comes to mind.

I don't think your getting it are you. You're telling other people their reasons for which way they want to vote is wrong. That's not how democracy works. People will decide their own reasons. The more you tell them they're stupid, the more they will refuse to listen to you.

Just to clarify. I don't like trump. I wouldn't vote for him. But all I'm hearing both from America and in Ireland is why people shouldn't vote for him. He's a liar, he's crap at business, he's racist, he likes Russia, his miss' was a brazzer and so on. It's pathetic. Telling people why their reasons are stupid. Arrogant in the extreme.

I don't hear anyone instead arguing why they should vote for Clinton. What's good about her? Try convincing them about your reasons. And now I can't even see why anyone would want to vote for her either. The longer this goes on the more the election becomes about if you like or hate a character that is almost cartoon like. Trump dumbed down the election. The trump haters made it twice as stupid.

to put it another way. just because you dislike a dumb guy, it doesn't make you smart.

seamus

seamus wrote: »

There was a brief time when HuffPo was considered a shining example of independent quality journalism.

I must've been out for a smoke.

Winterlong

Hande hoche! wrote: »

He's supposed to be making a major announcement shortly. Perhaps in relation to Obama?

Yup, he said that Obama was born in the united states.
Glad he cleared that up for us.

Pro Hoc Vice

Winterlong wrote: »

Yup, he said that Obama was born in the united states.
Glad he cleared that up for us.

Now he said more than that mostly how great the hotel was, the owner must be delighted with the publicity very nice of Trump.

Winterlong

Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »

Now he said more than that mostly how great the hotel was, the owner must be delighted with the publicity very nice of Trump.

Just doing his bit for the little man.
And that little man is six three and weighs 190.

Pro Hoc Vice

Winterlong wrote: »

Just doing his bit for the little man.
And that little man is six three and weighs 190.

is that 190 kgs.

derm0j073

Winterlong wrote: »

Yup, he said that Obama was born in the united states.
Glad he cleared that up for us.

And it only took him 8 years to figure it out.

wes

The man deserves no credit for finally accepting the bloody obvious. The man is simply a liar and a racist.

Galwayguy35

According to Fox News he's around 230lbs, heavy enough even for a guy over 6'

Winterlong

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

According to Fox News he's around 230lbs, heavy enough even for a guy over 6'

190 when you discount his ego.
But yes, he is 236 according to his doctor. 16.8 stone in old money.

Fathom

take everything wrote: »

Just wanted to get an idea what ye think about The Donald.

Unqualified.