Stage 4: Medical & Physical

paddy290

Elliot192 wrote: »

The sit ups come first then push ups. No rest between them, just the time it takes to move from one position to the other.

The length of a beep test, so about 8 min, is the rest you get between the beep and the sit up/push ups.

Thanks for that.

droptheworld

Crowlers wrote: »

Really want my physical soon lol, had to get my eyes corrected and the wait is horrible anyobne else had to do the same? if so how long from the 6 week marker did you get PCT date. Or any one else get it done and waiting like myself for the 6 week point to be up?

Hi did you get your date for the physical? How long was it after you sent in your 6 week report for the surgery? I’ve two weeks to go until I can get the letter for 6 weeks post op.

kth135

Quick question for anyone who done the physical what do you do first beep test n sit/push up or obstacle course n push pull or does vary for each group

Doyle93

kth135 wrote: »

Quick question for anyone who done the physical what do you do first beep test n sit/push up or obstacle course n push pull or does vary for each group

Run, situps, pushups, obstacle course then push pull. In that order with a 10 min break between run and situps/pushups and then almost 30/40 (or longer) mins break until obstacle course/ push pull

kth135

Doyle93 wrote: »

Run, situps, pushups, obstacle course then push pull. In that order with a 10 min break between run and situps/pushups and then almost 30/40 (or longer) mins break until obstacle course/ push pull

Done bleep there other day about 8 mintues to get to level 8 would that be same on the day?

Fabio_1988

Just wondering if people are scheduled to do their PCT over the next few weeks? Waiting to be called myself so just curious to see if there are dates set.

Doyle93

Fabio_1988 wrote: »

Just wondering if people are scheduled to do their PCT over the next few weeks? Waiting to be called myself so just curious to see if there are dates set.

It's every Saturday mate they usually issue dates on the Friday two weeks in advance. What's your oom? Or when did you do the medical?

1041

Megan7290 wrote: »

Yeh I thought about that but I don't really want to flag the issue with them if you know what I mean.. I want to be sure I need a deferal first..cant find link to Loughborough either.. I just used the army official one.. Green background and white guy on the logo

Megan PM me if you still need Loughborough link

Kirm2

Has anyone had to repeat the sit ups for the physical? How long were you waiting for your repeat date?

Elliot192

Kirm2 wrote: »

Has anyone had to repeat the sit ups for the physical? How long were you waiting for your repeat date?

It's at least three months and you have to repeat the whole section, ie beep, sit ups, push ups.

Fabio_1988

Doyle93 wrote: »

It's every Saturday mate they usually issue dates on the Friday two weeks in advance. What's your oom? Or when did you do the medical?

Oh right thanks, that’s good to know. Did medical in March but only signed off in mid June cos I had to get laser for eyes. Low 400’s OOM

sillian99

Are the majority of you all candidates from the May 2017 campaign and still waiting to go to templemore? In stage 2 do they make you resit your aptitude exams, im from the 18' campaign and awaiting stage 2.

Witcher

sillian99 wrote: »

Are the majority of you all candidates from the May 2017 campaign and still waiting to go to templemore? In stage 2 do they make you resit your aptitude exams, im from the 18' campaign and awaiting stage 2.

Stage 2 is aptitude tests, report writing and job simulation.

mrDerek

Sat physical went well. Id suggest people run the bleep test a few times in the weeks leading up. The wood makes it easier as the energy sapping part stopping turning starting is made easier by the wood.

Crowlers

droptheworld wrote: »

Hi did you get your date for the physical? How long was it after you sent in your 6 week report for the surgery? I’ve two weeks to go until I can get the letter for 6 weeks post op.

Hey, my 6 weeks are up today!! have an appointment to get the letter tomorrow and I’ll send it straIght in. I’m guessing it’s just a letter from the place saying you had your vision corrected and it’s not whatever it is. How did yours go? I hope they sign me off dtra Thy away then

Crowlers

droptheworld wrote: »

Hi did you get your date for the physical? How long was it after you sent in your 6 week report for the surgery? I’ve two weeks to go until I can get the letter for 6 weeks post op.

Hey, my 6 weeks are up today!! have an appointment to get the letter tomorrow and I’ll send it straIght in. I’m guessing it’s just a letter from the place saying you had your vision corrected and it’s not whatever it is. How did yours go? I hope they sign me off dtra Thy away then

pedrigo

Would anyone be able to shed some light on what the minimum standard of eyesight required is? They quote it as 6/18 in the info booklet but I'm looking to get it in terms of -1,-2 etc.

Thanks

AGS2017

I’m quite concerned as I can do 15 press ups at a push now, and I need to belt out 22 on the day.
Is there any exercises I should be doing to help or, are ‘press ups’ the only way to practice?
It says there is no time limit, so I can assume you can take a breather midway through in either close to the floor position, or in elevated position once you are in position/stance?
On the sit-ups, I can just about hit 32, but am far from convincing.
I struggle to keep my hands behind the head/ears in the movement, and could do with advice on how to improve.
Thanks folks. Bit freaked by the prospect of the PCT!!

Witcher

AGS2017 wrote: »

I’m quite concerned as I can do 15 press ups at a push now, and I need to belt out 22 on the day.
Is there any exercises I should be doing to help or, are ‘press ups’ the only way to practice?
It says there is no time limit, so I can assume you can take a breather midway through in either close to the floor position, or in elevated position once you are in position/stance?
On the sit-ups, I can just about hit 32, but am far from convincing.
I struggle to keep my hands behind the head/ears in the movement, and could do with advice on how to improve.
Thanks folks. Bit freaked by the prospect of the PCT!!

Building your upper body strength in general will help you, bench press..dips..tricep pulls downs etc. But start doing 100 press ups a day in addition too.

The rest position is elevated holding yourself up in a straight line. The longer you hold that the harder it'll be...1/2 secs max before going again...will burn yoir arms out otherwise.

For the sit ups...your hands will have to be on your temples for the physical, they wont accept hands behind your head.

AGS2017

Many thanks for that Strider. Much appreciated regarding the temples too.
We talking 2-3 weeks to see an improvement/meet the standard?

Crowlers

pedrigo wrote: »

Would anyone be able to shed some light on what the minimum standard of eyesight required is? They quote it as 6/18 in the info booklet but I'm looking to get it in terms of -1,-2 etc.

Thanks

mine was -1.75 and I got deffered if you have time and your eyes arent that good get something done with them save yourself time from being deferred, i struggled with mine big time -1.50 or under you should be ok anything after id say get it sorted
hope this helps

droptheworld

Crowlers wrote: »

Hey, my 6 weeks are up today!! have an appointment to get the letter tomorrow and I’ll send it straIght in. I’m guessing it’s just a letter from the place saying you had your vision corrected and it’s not whatever it is. How did yours go? I hope they sign me off dtra Thy away then

Hey I had my check up yesterday the letter has to say
(1) the date of your surgery
(2) if there were any complications
(3) your eyesight in each eye following an eye sight test carried out at least 6 weeks post surgery
(4) giving you clearance to take part in all physical activities.
It also has to be signed by the surgeon.
That was what the receptionist told me in the OccupationalHealth in Phoenix Park
My check up was great I have better than 20/20 however he said he would email the letter and he hasn’t done so yet so I’m going to get onto him today. Bit annoying!

thos23

Has anyone on forum lived away from Ireland in last 5 years? Just regarding vetting, enquired through a local garda, said my vetting may take 6-12 months because I lived in the States for a year, anyone know can this be quickened up at all by any means?

pedrigo

Crowlers wrote: »

mine was -1.75 and I got deffered if you have time and your eyes arent that good get something done with them save yourself time from being deferred, i struggled with mine big time -1.50 or under you should be ok anything after id say get it sorted
hope this helps

Thanks very much. My eyes are at -2.25 at the minute so I think I'll take your advice and get them looked at asap.

droptheworld

Anyone know I’ve moved address and I haven’t let them know. Is it just an email to appointments to tell them it’s changed?

Crowlers

droptheworld wrote: »

Hey I had my check up yesterday the letter has to say
(1) the date of your surgery
(2) if there were any complications
(3) your eyesight in each eye following an eye sight test carried out at least 6 weeks post surgery
(4) giving you clearance to take part in all physical activities.
It also has to be signed by the surgeon.
That was what the receptionist told me in the OccupationalHealth in Phoenix Park
My check up was great I have better than 20/20 however he said he would email the letter and he hasn’t done so yet so I’m going to get onto him today. Bit annoying!

Yeah i got same details off them aswell but just said eye specialt not specifically the surgeon so the optomatrist did mine as he was only one to see me after it during all the check ups. let me know how you get on when you hear back

Crowlers

droptheworld wrote: »

Anyone know I’ve moved address and I haven’t let them know. Is it just an email to appointments to tell them it’s changed?

i had to call them to change it, i emailed first but when i rang to double check it hadnt been changed, best off to call them

Crowlers

pedrigo wrote: »

Thanks very much. My eyes are at -2.25 at the minute so I think I'll take your advice and get them looked at asap.

no prob yeah defo get them sorted mine were -1.75 and i had no chance. it will save yourself time

droptheworld

Crowlers wrote: »

Yeah i got same details off them aswell but just said eye specialt not specifically the surgeon so the optomatrist did mine as he was only one to see me after it during all the check ups. let me know how you get on when you hear back

Let me know when you get called too for the fitness

Richmond Ultra

The neighbour rang today and was told that there is no more dates released at the moment for the physical. They expect more dates to be announced next month.

Villa93

Heard there’s an intake in October , does anyone think if you haven’t your PCT done by now you should forget about being in that intake? Only have PCT left to complete.

Elliot192

Villa93 wrote: »

Heard there’s an intake in October , does anyone think if you haven’t your PCT done by now you should forget about being in that intake? Only have PCT left to complete.

Getting an offer right up to the start date is not beyond the realms of possibility but I wouldn't be counting on it, no. It'd be more like a nice surprise.

droptheworld

Villa93 wrote: »

Heard there’s an intake in October , does anyone think if you haven’t your PCT done by now you should forget about being in that intake? Only have PCT left to complete.

I’m in the same boat. Just have the fitness to do and was hoping for October but I know it’ll be unlikely. Anyone know when the next I take after October will be?

Doyle93

droptheworld wrote: »

I’m in the same boat. Just have the fitness to do and was hoping for October but I know it’ll be unlikely. Anyone know when the next I take after October will be?

Four a year roughly 3 months apart.

Doyle93

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FIVE.0

droptheworld wrote: »

I’m in the same boat. Just have the fitness to do and was hoping for October but I know it’ll be unlikely. Anyone know when the next I take after October will be?

Going by last year the next intake after oct should be Jan. I wouldn't lose hope for oct yet. If your vetting has been done you could do your PCT on the sat and get an offer that week. It has happened with the last intake.

bottar1

I just did Stage 2 and feel fairly confident. They mentioned at the presentation our Fitness would probably be Jan/Feb. I have a holiday paid for from 22/JAN-11FEB booked with my girlfriend to Brazil for some time!

Do you think there will be any issue to defer the test if it did fall on those dates??? Anyone have similar story?

droptheworld

Have my physical in two weeks. Wasn’t expecting the date so quickly so i was slacking on training due to holidays and laziness. I did go to a PT for June until the middle of July. I’m grand at the push ups and sit ups I’m a female but I’m really nervous about the beep test that I’m considering resechudling. This isn’t really what I want to do as I’ve been waiting fo so long so I’m undecided. Anyone any advice?

Elliot192

droptheworld wrote: »

Have my physical in two weeks. Wasn’t expecting the date so quickly so i was slacking on training due to holidays and laziness. I did go to a PT for June until the middle of July. I’m grand at the push ups and sit ups I’m a female but I’m really nervous about the beep test that I’m considering resechudling. This isn’t really what I want to do as I’ve been waiting fo so long so I’m undecided. Anyone any advice?

That wouldn't be a reason they'd allow you reschedule for.

Have you practised the beep? What level do you need to get to? I'd be doing some high intensity running intervals about 2min:2min, 3min:3min or 4:4 for as many as you can manage (but at least so you're running time is greater than or equal to the length of your beep test) I'd be running them at or slightly above the highest speed you need to get on the beep, preferably on an incline, til about ten days out from your PCT. I'd be doing that three times a week followed by sit ups and push ups. I'd be doing one long slow run on one other day. And I'd be doing nothing the three days before my test other than eating right, drinking 2-3litres of water and getting enough sleep. In fact I'd start that now.

Adrenaline will get you through an awful lot. It's easier indoors in a hall. If you can, practice. Don't race through the first three levels. Land on the line with the beep. Coffee 30 min before your test. Carb load the day before.

Best of luck. And sure if the worst comes to the worst you can do it again in three months time.

droptheworld

Elliot192 wrote: »

That wouldn't be a reason they'd allow you reschedule for.

Have you practised the beep? What level do you need to get to? I'd be doing some high intensity running intervals about 2min:2min, 3min:3min or 4:4 for as many as you can manage (but at least so you're running time is greater than or equal to the length of your beep test) I'd be running them at or slightly above the highest speed you need to get on the beep, preferably on an incline, til about ten days out from your PCT. I'd be doing that three times a week followed by sit ups and push ups. I'd be doing one long slow run on one other day. And I'd be doing nothing the three days before my test other than eating right, drinking 2-3litres of water and getting enough sleep. In fact I'd start that now.

Adrenaline will get you through an awful lot. It's easier indoors in a hall. If you can, practice. Don't race through the first three levels. Land on the line with the beep. Coffee 30 min before your test. Carb load the day before.

Best of luck. And sure if the worst comes to the worst you can do it again in three months time.

Thanks so much for the advice I’m going to take it all on board. Can you tell me how long the whole day takes for the fitness I’m starting at 9?

Elliot192

droptheworld wrote: »

Thanks so much for the advice I’m going to take it all on board. Can you tell me how long the whole day takes for the fitness I’m starting at 9?

It really depends on how many turn up, how many are repeats and where you are in terms of the obstacle course. Should be out by 12:30, maybe 1 - 1:30 at the latest.

You arrive at 9, there's a talk in a lecture hall for about half an hour. Then walk to the sports hall. When I did mine the beeps kicked off around 09:45.

There's about an hour in between the beep and the obstacle.

You wait out in the corridor for the obstacle course til you're called in when the person in front of you is on their last lap. There is no break between obstacle and push pull. In theory it's 4 - 5min per person per second part of the PCT.

Think they just take 40 people per PCT and you are divided into groups of eight for the beep, so that should give you some idea. Best of luck!

droptheworld

Can someone send me a link to download the Loughborough beep test can’t find it?

Villa93

Anyone hear about any rumored dates for upcoming PCT’s?? Starting to get fairly impatient now , been a long wait 😅😅

droptheworld

Villa93 wrote: »

Anyone hear about any rumored dates for upcoming PCT’s?? Starting to get fairly impatient now , been a long wait 😅😅

I got a date for the 1st of September so maybe there’ll be another soon after that?

Maggieclerical

Well lads what OOMs are been called now for fitness and medical just curious?

Richmond Ultra

Mid 600's for next Saturday PCT.

deiseman17

Was late 600s and had physical last month.

Villa93

Maggieclerical wrote: »

Well lads what OOMs are been called now for fitness and medical just curious?

I’m low 700’s and have been waiting ages for a fitness test , still haven’t heard anything.

Shape

Just wondering for the push ups do you start on the floor and raise yourself or start with your body raised and lower yourself for the first push up ?
Thanks

mrDerek

i started body raised.