Players to watch this (2016/2017) season

Cantona's Collars

Arnautovic heading to Everton,could be a points machine under Koeman.

km79

zerks wrote: »

Arnautovic heading to Everton,could be a points machine under Koeman.

Interesting
Very interesting

Mr.Prodston

zerks wrote: »

Arnautovic heading to Everton,could be a points machine under Koeman.

But Mirallas?

manual_man

Taking a chance on Fabregas. Pretty sure he'll be Conte's type of player and be pretty nailed on 4 starts. Hopefully in an advanced role, but if not then it should be him and Kante in CM, in which case he should have plenty of licence to get forward anyway. Good chance he'll be at least sharing set piece duties too

manual_man

No Nolito love?

Little Bubbles

manual_man wrote: »

No Nolito love?

I had him in then out then in now out again. Will he start is the question? City have so much depth. Where will he fit in? Him and Kun upfront.

manual_man

Little Bubbles wrote: »

I had him in then out then in now out again. Will he start is the question? City have so much depth. Where will he fit in? Him and Kun upfront.

pretty sure he'll start with Silva, KDB and Kun. can't see Pep putting up with Sterling much

edit: Silva a safer option at the same price though, although if both start i'd fancy Nolito to outscore him

spock.

manual_man wrote:

pretty sure he'll start with Silva, KDB and Kun. can't see Pep putting up with Sterling much

Iheanacho will steal a lot of Nolito's game time.

manual_man

spock. wrote: »

Iheanacho will steal a lot of Nolito's game time.

Not sure about that. I reckon Iheanacho will be used mostly again as a sub for Aguero when the game's won or as a replacement when he's injured

eagle eye

I'm definitely keeping a close eye on Iheanacho. I'm sure his agent will be pushing for him to get regular starts now or to be let go somewhere else so that he can get more starts and develop.

I'm really tinkering with the idea of staying away from premium strikers. There is a very tempting list of strikers available for 6.5 million like Long, Gray, Negredo, Carroll,

Just above them for 7.0 are Deeney, Defoe, Rashford and Iheanacho. Some of them have question marks over starts but will be bargains if they are starting.

Ziegler1988

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm really tinkering with the idea of staying away from premium strikers. There is a very tempting list of strikers available for 6.5 million like Long, Gray, Negredo, Carroll,

Just above them for 7.0 are Deeney, Defoe, Rashford and Iheanacho. Some of them have question marks over starts but will be bargains if they are starting.

The premium strikers are traditionally the best captain options, so that's a very risky strategy

eagle eye

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

The premium strikers are traditionally the best captain options, so that's a very risky strategy

I found last season that it was midfielders that were the most dependable options for the armband for the most part.
The start of last season was not a good one for premium strikers if you remember.

Costa, Aguero, Kane and the other premium strikers did very little at the start of last season if you remember. I'll be using my wildcard most likely in the first four weeks so it's not a huge risk imo.

If I'm lucky I'll have this years Vardy/Ighalo/Wilson from the start and it won't set me back to bring him in later.

Ziegler1988

Doesn't mean that it will be the same the start of this season. Costa was explosive two seasons ago from the start and I'm sure RvP, Suarez, Aguero, etc. were in the seasons before when I wasn't hardcore.
I don't think anyone is essential, but you're running a big risk not even owning Aguero for GW1 against Sunderland. I thought I could cover his points for a bit last season with KDB, but got lit up in the Palace home match

Cantona's Collars

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

But Mirallas?

Delofeou being used in a striker role by Koeman,scored within 2 minutes this evening.

km79

zerks wrote: »

Delofeou being used in a striker role by Koeman,scored within 2 minutes this evening.

Seen his name mentioned on FFS this morning too .......lukaku not back yet though

the groutch

zerks wrote: »

Delofeou being used in a striker role by Koeman,scored within 2 minutes this evening.

great except that they never credit him with his assists

#JusticeForDeulofeu

extra gravy

There's a bargain to be found in that Everton midfield but picking the right one before the season starts will be tricky.

shineon23

extra gravy wrote: »

There's a bargain to be found in that Everton midfield but picking the right one before the season starts will be tricky.

For the sake of humanity itself I hope Gareth Barry doesn't prove to be the right choice for two seasons in a row as 14 transfers guy proved :eek:

ScummyMan

I see on BBC that Mertesacker will miss the first few months. Its Gabriel time!

2nd Row Donkey

shineon23 wrote:

For the sake of humanity itself I hope Gareth Barry doesn't prove to be the right choice for two seasons in a row as 14 transfers guy proved

I'd have him ahead of Capoue if I was going for a 5th cheap MF

manual_man

ScummyMan wrote: »

I see on BBC that Mertesacker will miss the first few months. Its Gabriel time!

Wenger has said he'll be dipping in to the transfer market as a result - probably for backup to Kosc and Gabriel while Mert is out - but you never know

Cantona's Collars

Arnautovic staying at Stoke,signed a new deal.That's my Everton plans changed.

km79

For anyone thinking of going with victor valdes .......boro also signed Brad Guzan today

2nd Row Donkey

km79 wrote:

For anyone thinking of going with victor valdes .......boro also signed Brad Guzan today

All the more reason to pick Valdes!

CSWS101

What are peoples thoughts on Rooney? Jose always liked him and put in several bids for him, for only 9 he could have a great season. I personally think Jose will start him and he's already said he won't be playing up front. Banged 2 in yesterday (only pre-season etc). Martial will play on the wing for sure. Just some thoughts interested so view some opinions. I currently have lukaku in at the same price but he will be going on my watch list for sure.

dsmythy

manual_man wrote: »

Wenger has said he'll be dipping in to the transfer market as a result - probably for backup to Kosc and Gabriel while Mert is out - but you never know

No faith in mister Holding?

manual_man

dsmythy wrote: »

No faith in mister Holding?

huh?

Hogey007

Just wondering what people's thoughts on Bojan as a 6.0 mid are?
Just got through most of the rate my team thread & he doesn't feature much in teams.
Didn't want to post the question in there as felt I was going off topic so hope this thread is ok.
I know his injury record, but is he likely to play regularly if he avoids injury? Scored in their last pre season game.

dsmythy

manual_man wrote: »

huh?

Rob Holding. Is he good enough to mess up our Arsenal centre back plans. Long shot but wouldn't surprise me.

manual_man

dsmythy wrote: »

Rob Holding. Is he good enough to mess up our Arsenal centre back plans. Long shot but wouldn't surprise me.

I'd doubt it considering his lack of experience. Pretty sure Wenger will buy an established CB - Mustafi (German international) seems most likely at the moment

Paully D

It's an obvious one of course but when Stones eventually gets his move to Manchester City then at £5m he looks superb value for top 4 defensive coverage.

CSF

Paully D wrote: »

It's an obvious one of course but when Stones eventually gets his move to Manchester City then at £5m he looks superb value for top 4 defensive coverage.

Probable season keeper.

Paully D

CSF wrote: »

Probable season keeper.

Agreed.

I love Zouma at £5.5m and Shaw at £5.5m too presuming Conte and Mourinho will keep things tight. Arsenal always take a while to settle defensively but you've also got Gabriel at £5m who will likely maintain his place when Mertersacker returns.

Some cracking priced defensive options for top 4 defensive coverage.

At the moment, once things settle down I have my eye on a Zouma/Shaw/Stones trio to play every week trio with a £4.5m on the bench for safety just in case and then probably Brad Smith at £4m. That's more than manageable.

ElTel

Paully D wrote: »

Agreed.

I love Zouma at £5.5m and Shaw at £5.5m too presuming Conte and Mourinho will keep things tight. Arsenal always take a while to settle defensively but you've also got Gabriel at £5m who will likely maintain his place when Mertersacker returns.

Some cracking priced defensive options for top 4 defensive coverage.

At the moment, once things settle down I have my eye on a Zouma/Shaw/Stones trio to play every week trio with a £4.5m on the bench for safety just in case and then probably Brad Smith at £4m. That's more than manageable.

Throw in both Sunderland GKs for 8.5 and you're well on the way!
Strong Fr8 so?

Scorpion Sting

Hogey007 wrote: »

Just wondering what people's thoughts on Bojan as a 6.0 mid are?
Just got through most of the rate my team thread & he doesn't feature much in teams.
Didn't want to post the question in there as felt I was going off topic so hope this thread is ok.
I know his injury record, but is he likely to play regularly if he avoids injury? Scored in their last pre season game.

If he gets regular starts and stays injury free he'll represent good value. There's question marks with him though. I'd rather wait and see how he gets on before going for him.

Ziegler1988

Paully D wrote: »

Agreed.

I love Zouma at £5.5m and Shaw at £5.5m too presuming Conte and Mourinho will keep things tight. Arsenal always take a while to settle defensively but you've also got Gabriel at £5m who will likely maintain his place when Mertersacker returns.

Even if we don't sign Mustafi or another experienced CB, Gabriel is always good for a ricket that will lead to him being dropped for a spell. I wouldn't start with him

manual_man

Paully D wrote: »

It's an obvious one of course but when Stones eventually gets his move to Manchester City then at £5m he looks superb value for top 4 defensive coverage.

Kompany if fit will be a cert. So then it'll be Stones/Otamendi/Mangala fighting it out to partner him. Stones probably favourite but i wouldn't be too sure - last season he was VERY average for Everton

Shedite27

Hogey007 wrote: »

Just wondering what people's thoughts on Bojan as a 6.0 mid are?
Just got through most of the rate my team thread & he doesn't feature much in teams.
Didn't want to post the question in there as felt I was going off topic so hope this thread is ok.
I know his injury record, but is he likely to play regularly if he avoids injury? Scored in their last pre season game.

I had a look when he was first announced as a mid. If you took his stats last year (goals/assists/clean sheets) and counted them as a mid, there were still better 6m mid options.

Fenson

OX for 6.0 guys?

dsmythy

manual_man wrote: »

Kompany if fit will be a cert. So then it'll be Stones/Otamendi/Mangala fighting it out to partner him. Stones probably favourite but i wouldn't be too sure - last season he was VERY average for Everton

Awful lot of money to pay for a defender to rotate. Though when they've pits of money to throw around you might be on to something .

PARlance

Fenson wrote: »

OX for 6.0 guys?

6.0 games this season is it?

Paully D

manual_man wrote: »

Kompany if fit will be a cert. So then it'll be Stones/Otamendi/Mangala fighting it out to partner him. Stones probably favourite but i wouldn't be too sure - last season he was VERY average for Everton

That's because he was under the guidance of Roberto Martinez who is probably the worst manager near the top level of the game at organising a defence. Franz Beckenbauer would have struggled under him last season.

I could see Mangala pushing on a bit now coming into his 3rd season but he has been woeful so far and I can't see them spending £50m on Stones and rotating him all that much.

I think it'll be Kompany/Stones every week with the others filling in for the former when he inevitably gets injured.

spock.

Paully D wrote:

That's because he was under the guidance of Roberto Martinez who is probably the worst manager near the top level of the game at organising a defence. Franz Beckenbauer would have struggled under him last season.

I could see Mangala pushing on a bit now coming into his 3rd season but he has been woeful so far and I can't see them spending £50m on Stones and rotating him all that much.

I think it'll be Kompany/Stones every week with the others filling in for the former when he inevitably gets injured.

Mangala will be 4th choice. It'll be Kompany with Otamendi/Stones. Otamendi was first choice last season and finished the season in excellent form.

Scorpion Sting

Paully D wrote: »

That's because he was under the guidance of Roberto Martinez who is probably the worst manager near the top level of the game at organising a defence. Franz Beckenbauer would have struggled under him last season.

I could see Mangala pushing on a bit now coming into his 3rd season but he has been woeful so far and I can't see them spending £50m on Stones and rotating him all that much.

I think it'll be Kompany/Stones every week with the others filling in for the former when he inevitably gets injured.

They spent the same amount on Sterling and ended up constantly rotating him.

sword1

Scorpion Sting wrote: »

They spent the same amount on Sterling and ended up constantly rotating him.

Ended up ,if i remember correctly he was starting early in the season but due to a lack of performance got rotated as season went on

Paully D

Scorpion Sting wrote: »

They spent the same amount on Sterling and ended up constantly rotating him.

He started the first 9 games of the season in a row, was dropped for the 10th and then started another 5 in a row. He was then dropped for game 16 and started the following 4. That brings us to GW21 and from there he started to get rotated quite a bit.

So they basically gave him 19 starts out of the first 21 Premier League games of the season before losing patience. I'd expect that of any player at any club in the league.

When they sign Stones I don't think his performances will be poor enough to warrant dropping him. It'll be interesting to look back on this time next year, but I think at £5m he could well prove to be the best value for money defender in the entire game this season.

DJIMI TRARORE

with creswell out for a while,is Byram the most likely to come in at LB only4.5

8-10

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

with creswell out for a while,is Byram the most likely to come in at LB only4.5

Looks like it at the moment anyway, though he's not a natural LB so be careful, keep an eye on preseason games

dahat

DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »

with creswell out for a while,is Byram the most likely to come in at LB only4.5

Bit of a card magnet though isn't he?

razorblunt

Who is likely to start in goal for Boro and Palace?

Boro: Konstopolous, Valdes, Guzan (unlikely)
Palace: Hennessy, Speroni, Mandanda (McCarthy has been sold to Southampton)