Air conditioning/regassing nationwide

corks finest

mikeecho wrote: »

Looking for someone to repair a non working a/c.

It seems that the clutch isn't engaging.
I've checked the gas level and it's fine.

Someone in cork city or surrounds.

I understand that I might have to wait a while, due to CV19 , but I'd like to have someone lined up.

Brian Powell' motors up forge hill/ on the right fixed mine a few years back, reasonable and good

Homer

Anybody know of anywhere (preferably north county Dublin) that’s currently open and offering this service. Going to hit google and make some phone calls later this morning but thought I would ask here first.

keyboard_cat

Homer wrote: »

Anybody know of anywhere (preferably north county Dublin) that’s currently open and offering this service. Going to hit google and make some phone calls later this morning but thought I would ask here first.

I got a kit a few weeks back on eBay to top up the air conditioning gas + some oil for the seals to prevent leaks was about 60 euro.
It’s probably not as good as getting it done properly in a garage but it’s now blowing ice cold air and only took 10 mins to do.
If nowhere else is open that might be an option

Atlantic Dawn

Halfords are back open, not sure if all vehicle services have resumed and they do regassing.

For the money and job I'd go here instead https://www.autoaircon.ie/

Carpentry

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Halfords are back open, not sure if all vehicle services have resumed and they do regassing.

For the money and job I'd go here instead https://www.autoaircon.ie/

He is doing mine every year. Best aircon service in co. Dublin by mile.

xDerp

Hi all,
The best price I seem to be able to find for AC gas and the adapter is about 90 quid (81 with discount) from halfords. does this seem reasonable? would a motor factors be cheaper than this?

biko

Unless you have a reason to want to learn I'd get a pro to do it for you.
Regassing nationwide thread here

xDerp

biko wrote: »

Unless you have a reason to want to learn I'd get a pro to do it for you.
Regassing nationwide thread here

Thanks Biko, it does look like paying someone is the best option for this!

biko

Sound, merged

Tropheus

Used autoaircon.ie a couple of times and they are great. I've also tried the DIY gas with moderate sucess. The guy at autoaircon told me that they DIY canisters are ok, but they don't fully fill the system as it get's to a point where the pressure in the system is greater than that from the canister so you can't get anymore in. Pro gear is the only way to do it properly.

Homer

Thanks for the recommendations. Unfortunately I have 162
Qashqai that uses a newer gas type and it’s likely to be €150 minimum and €300 if there’s any issues with the condenser. Considerably more expensive than vehicles (majority it seems) that use the older type of air con gas. Oh well, happy to pay it rather than drive around in this heat with warm air blowing on me

Atlantic Dawn

Tropheus wrote: »

Used autoaircon.ie a couple of times and they are great. I've also tried the DIY gas with moderate sucess. The guy at autoaircon told me that they DIY canisters are ok, but they don't fully fill the system as it get's to a point where the pressure in the system is greater than that from the canister so you can't get anymore in. Pro gear is the only way to do it properly.

Yes have twice in the past used the DIY canisters, they are about €70 odd a go and can be hit and miss trying to load the gas in as connections are poor.



It was around €55 or €60 with AutoAircon and he did a thorough job looking for leaks.

somebody_else

Funny enough I used DIY air con maintenance on my Volvo.
Old one so uses R134A.
Hope rest of the week will be nice so I could try to use AC to report my findings.

Tom

Vic_08

Carpentry wrote: »

He is doing mine every year. Best aircon service in co. Dublin by mile.

If you are needing it done every year then there is a leak that needs fixing.

Carpentry

Vic_08 wrote: »

If you are needing it done every year then there is a leak that needs fixing.

Not needing it, just doing it. Service as any other. Some people never change their wipers, they think they are fine.

wonski

Carpentry wrote: »

Not needing it, just doing it. Service as any other. Some people never change their wipers, they think they are fine.

You change wipers as and when needed. Not sure what the comparison is. If they work fine they work fine.

Would you replace tíre valves every year just in case, or service/recondition a starter just in case?



Pretty sure a check up won't do any harm, but if there are no symptoms at all why waste money on "servicing" aircon? If you are worried get a thermometer and check it once in a while to see how cold it is and asked them to have a look if it drops a bit?

Tropheus

Aircon gas should be done every couple of years. It's not just the gas to cool, it also contains oil to lubricate compressor.

Carpentry

wonski wrote: »

You change wipers as and when needed. Not sure what the comparison is. If they work fine they work fine.

Would you replace tíre valves every year just in case, or service/recondition a starter just in case?



Pretty sure a check up won't do any harm, but if there are no symptoms at all why waste money on "servicing" aircon? If you are worried get a thermometer and check it once in a while to see how cold it is and asked them to have a look if it drops a bit?

That's just stupid question.

What's the point of changing cabin filter if whole your system is polluted with bacteria etc. ?

I guess its up to me how I spend my money ?

Besides I leave my a/c on all year.

Carpentry

Tropheus wrote: »

Aircon gas should be done every couple of years. It's not just the gas to cool, it also contains oil to lubricate compressor.

This.

urranger

Searched for results and they are all about 10 yrs old!
Anyway, the air con has stopped working in my 131 focus. It's blowing warm air so i suspect it's the gas needs replacing???
Am I right, and any idea puff cost?

BronsonTB

This thread might help - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057599922

Last updated 3/6/20 so not that old.

biko

Merged

Vic_08

Tropheus wrote: »

Aircon gas should be done every couple of years. It's not just the gas to cool, it also contains oil to lubricate compressor.

Carpentry wrote: »

This.

I assume you lads also get the gas in your fridge/freezers serviced every year as well then?

The refrigerant and lubricant are in a sealed system, as long as there are no leaks there is no need to go near it.

Tropheus

Vic_08 wrote: »

I assume you lads also get the gas in your fridge/freezers serviced every year as well then?

The refrigerant and lubricant are in a sealed system, as long as there are no leaks there is no need to go near it.

Difference is that my fridge sits in the kitchen and doens't move. It's also not subject to the same heat under the bonnet of a car. An auto system is more fragile than a fridge and more prone to issues IMO.

Carpentry

Vic_08 wrote: »

I assume you lads also get the gas in your fridge/freezers serviced every year as well then?

The refrigerant and lubricant are in a sealed system, as long as there are no leaks there is no need to go near it.

Are you specialist or just pretending to be one ?

honda boi

Anyone get there air con regased ,serviced in Mullingar auto electrics?

zilog_jones

Tropheus wrote: »

Difference is that my fridge sits in the kitchen and doens't move. It's also not subject to the same heat under the bonnet of a car. An auto system is more fragile than a fridge and more prone to issues IMO.

The main difference is the compressor is mechanically belt driven in a traditional ICE car, if they're not used regularly the seals don't get sufficient lubrication and can dry out and leak. If they're used regularly, and leaks don't develop elsewhere, they should not require regular re-gassing - and if a leak does develop elsewhere, it needs to be fixed.

Electric compressors do not have this vulnerability (no exposed shaft seal), and are becoming more common in cars (especially hybrids, EVs, etc.).

Roxy33

Hello there,

I’m looking for a place near Galway where I can do an air conditioning refill. I own an ‘08 Renault Grand Scenic. Also, have you any idea about costs? I would highly appreciate your answers.

Thank you!

P.S.: I couldn’t find an appropriate home for my post. I hope I’m in the right place. If not, could an admin help? Thanks

sentient_6

Radfix in Liosban. Probably in the 80 region. Call them and ask.

jetfiremuck

My advise is to have them do a vac pull on the ac for 30 mins at least and see if it holds the vacuum. Refill with correct weight and make sure condenser fans are working . good luck

Sparky1972

Looking for some recommendations.
I have a 2016 Tuscon and it hasn't being blowing cold air. Took it to Hyundai dealership today. No obvious leaks detected but they said they have put a dye in it and it will take a week to go through system. So I have to drop car back in a week for check and if no leaks, it will be just a re-gas required, and they tell me the regas will be €250 (40 of which is labour). This sounds a lot to me. Any thoughts/suggestions.

mk7r

Sparky1972 wrote: »

Looking for some recommendations.
I have a 2016 Tuscon and it hasn't being blowing cold air. Took it to Hyundai dealership today. No obvious leaks detected but they said they have put a dye in it and it will take a week to go through system. So I have to drop car back in a week for check and if no leaks, it will be just a re-gas required, and they tell me the regas will be €250 (40 of which is labour). This sounds a lot to me. Any thoughts/suggestions.

Cheaper than I would have expected from a Hyundai dealer (their parts prices are mental) The gas is getting dearer and dearer to buy, luckily your car still has the older r134 system.
You could save some money by going to an Aircon specialist but you are risking you warranty/goodwill

ec_pc

131 Focus, Naas Area which needs regas. I don't use Aircon much and it has just stopped blowing cold air recently. Has never been regassed from new.

Any recommendations for Naas area?

Whocare

What going rate for air con regas? Was looking in halford and gas is like €66 plus the gauge €40 would garage be cheaper than DIY it ?

mk7r

Whocare wrote: »

What going rate for air con regas? Was looking in halford and gas is like €66 plus the gauge €40 would garage be cheaper than DIY it ?

Depends on the gas it takes but about 80 for 134a

Buffman

€60 from https://autoaircon.ie/desktop/index.html#body if you're around Dublin.


I've used him a few times and all good.

TommyGun2017

Buffman wrote: »

€60 from https://autoaircon.ie/desktop/index.html#body if you're around Dublin.


I've used him a few times and all good.

Can also vouch for this chap. No frills setup but gets the job done

hellyeah

+1 as above, used before excellent.

Cerveza

I wouldn’t let those Halfords yahoo’s fit a air freshener for me let alone work on air con.

Smee_Again

Anyone know how to check what refrigerant my car needs?

The Halford website is telling me that the EZ Chill R-134a gas is not suitable tor my car (192 Kona Electric) but the owner's manual lists either R-134a or R-1234yf so now I'm confused.

listermint

Two things.

I'd be surprised if Halfords are up to date with that vehicle and year.

I'd also be surprised you need a refill after a year and a half. Did you lose gas in bump ?

Atlantic Dawn

Usually it's either underneath the front of the bonnet or on top of front of engine bay.

If it was me and your in Dublin I'd bring it to this place in Parkwest to refill rather than getting a recharge kit, will work out cheaper...
https://autoaircon.ie/

Smee_Again

I figured if anything Halfords would be wrong, but still thought I'd ask.

23 months and a little over 70,000kms with a partner who insists on having the a/c on at full blast nearly all the time, not sure if that makes a difference.

No bumps, tips or crashes, just a lot of use.

Atlantic Dawn

With a lot of use it should actually hold gas better than with occasional use, I leave mine on permanently so a set temperature is maintained.

Smee_Again

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Usually it's either underneath the front of the bonnet or on top of front of engine bay.

If it was me and your in Dublin I'd bring it to this place in Parkwest to refill rather than getting a recharge kit, will work out cheaper...
https://autoaircon.ie/

I was actually looking at them earlier but I'm not in Dublin and don't fancy the drive at the minute. That's plan b if I don't figure out the gas type.

pron

There should be a sticker in the engine-bay to tell you what it uses - though at under 2yo, you should really talk to the supplying dealership - the refrigerant shouldn't be leaking at that rate.
Almost certainly it's R-1234yf - which is the newer standard, and far more common in electric motors for a variety of reasons.

Smee_Again

pron wrote: »

There should be a sticker in the engine-bay to tell you what it uses - though at under 2yo, you should really talk to the supplying dealership - the refrigerant shouldn't be leaking at that rate.
Almost certainly it's R-1234yf - which is the newer standard, and far more common in electric motors for a variety of reasons.

Cheers for reply and everyone else, I’ve booked it into the dealership for next week to get them to have a look at it.

zilog_jones

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

With a lot of use it should actually hold gas better than with occasional use, I leave mine on permanently so a set temperature is maintained.

Electric compressors don't have a shaft seal to leak from lack of use, like with belt driven compressors traditionally found in cars. They also require specific non-conductive oil, so just the type of refrigerant is not sufficient information to go by when looking for something suitable. The stuff sold in Halfords possibly contains some oil or other additives intended for belt-driven compressors.

Atlantic Dawn

zilog_jones wrote: »

Electric compressors don't have a shaft seal to leak from lack of use, like with belt driven compressors traditionally found in cars. They also require specific non-conductive oil, so just the type of refrigerant is not sufficient information to go by when looking for something suitable. The stuff sold in Halfords possibly contains some oil or other additives intended for belt-driven compressors.

Yes had use of a hybrid and noticed there's no clutch engagement with the AC when turned on, different system alright. Would it be better in the long run or more problematic should something go wrong with that type of compressor?

BlakeS94

Driving the missus car over the weekend as my own is out of action. Noticed the A/C only blows warm air. So couldn't not investigate it. Hooked up one of those gauge and triggers by STP for R134a systems on the low pressure A/C pipe. pressure was at the max "good" indentation on the gauge. Also checked the compressor clutch, which turns on when A/C button is pressed, and off when it's turned off. And spins constantly when turned on, doesn't cycle on/off or anything so seems to be working as it should. Not sure what to do next. Any ideas? There's no sounds from the compressor itself either to indicate it's internals have failed. I don't know much about A/C systems other than what I've spoke about in this post