PES 2017 - Thoughts & Discussion

Colemania · 08-09-2016 11:43am

Nailz wrote: »

Yeah it's difficult to understand why they don't have some form of updated squad info. It doesn't even have to be accurate as of the 1st of September, just something that replicates most of the transfers from the early parts of the transfer window at least.

But the promise is a Day One data pack, fully up-to-date, and a weekly update after that; I'm sure they'll stick to it. Last year was an absolute disgrace, they even acknowledged before the release that the first data pack wouldn't be out for over a month (22/10/2015 IIRC), and even at that they totally ****ed up the data pack. Remember that those squads where correct up to the 29th of August or something, totally missing out on the busiest couple of days in the transfer window?

If that happens again, there'll be war. Surely they got their act together though, can't get any worse than that.

I remember that alright. Absolutely shocking stuff. Sure i used to sit and do all the transfers on ps2 for most of a day so I could play an accurate master league! They have a dedicated stats guy now who will be updating player stats when needs be, for example the likes of Alli, Mahrez and Vardy last season needing updates to reflect the season they were having.

callaway92 · 08-09-2016 12:11pm

Just on the commentary, I'm a big fan of Peter Drury and Jim Belgin when they are together for real life matches too so definitely hope they stay on.

brianregan09 · 08-09-2016 4:46pm

Where's the cheapest place to order this from the demo is a massive improvement on the game from last year

also are we definitley getting downloadable option files ?

J Mysterio · 08-09-2016 5:03pm

I got a brand spanking new control for this

Really looking forward to it!

wandatowell · 08-09-2016 5:07pm

Any news on the PC version? I thought I read that some improvements are being held back until next year.

Colemania · 08-09-2016 5:10pm

brianregan09 wrote: »

Where's the cheapest place to order this from the demo is a massive improvement on the game from last year

also are we definitley getting downloadable option files ?

For ps4, yes. Apparently it's going to be even easier to upload data now and it'll make editors lives easier with how they edit.

The game collection is probably cheapest place to get it and seems to be the consensus here. I've ordered it on the xbox store anyway and hopefully can get it 2 days earlier by changing my region to America but seeing as I downloaded it from the Irish store, I'm probably unlikely to have it until Thursday!

BabyE · 08-09-2016 5:37pm

J Mysterio wrote: »

I got a brand spanking new control for this

Really looking forward to it!

You seem to have resverations about Pes like me but like you I am optimistic. As I said rounding the keeper is horrible i doubt they will improve it either but we can hope. They improved pens a little btw, not fifa level but decent

J Mysterio · 08-09-2016 5:54pm

BabyE wrote: »

You seem to have resverations about Pes like me but like you I am optimistic. As I said rounding the keeper is horrible i doubt they will improve it either but we can hope. They improved pens a little btw, not fifa level but decent

I dont have reservations about PES. I feckin love it! Its far superior to FIFA.

FiFA 12 was really good and better than the equivalent PES, FiFA 13 less so. I had both games but have been a committed PES head since and before 2012, it was PES going back to 2001.

Exclamation Marc · 08-09-2016 6:00pm

brianregan09 wrote: »

Where's the cheapest place to order this from the demo is a massive improvement on the game from last year

also are we definitley getting downloadable option files ?

The Games Collection is probably the cheapest and quickest to get it on ps4/XB1

Psychedelic · 08-09-2016 7:24pm

Won the ball in the other team's half, in the centre circle and turned towards my goal while accidentally holding circle to full power. Player launches it back to my keeper who was standing near the edge of his box. I was expecting him to chest or head it, but he just looked as the ball sail passed him into the net. It was Barca v Barca, I was 1-0 up. Then they got a header with the last touch of the game. All you can do is laugh.

The AI is very aggressive, which I like. AI did a two-footed leg-breaker from behind, yellow card. A not-so-bad sliding tackle on my player on the edge of their box with lots of other players about, straight red.

Can't wait to get stuck into this proper.

Wilberto · 08-09-2016 7:34pm

Psychedelic wrote: »

The AI is very aggressive, which I like. AI did a two-footed leg-breaker from behind, yellow card. A not-so-bad sliding tackle on my player on the edge of their box with lots of other players about, straight red.

Can't wait to get stuck into this proper.

This was the other thing I meant to mention. The referees can be so inconsistent that it seems almost deliberately done by Konami to make it so.

I don't know if that sounds like a preposterous notion or not but either way, it does make the game realistic.

BabyE · 08-09-2016 7:55pm

I hate the way Barcelona dont keep the ball enough(AI) had 70% against them with Atlei

IncognitoMan · 09-09-2016 12:17am

It's very easy to get high possession stats against the computer alright. Playing on superstar this shouldn't really happen. Although if I had to choose between that and the way the computer plays on the top difficulty in fifa where every team plays possession football like they are barcelona 2011 then give me the pes AI everytime.

Pickpocket · 09-09-2016 1:29am

What does the manual-play feel like this year?

Call Me Jimmy · 09-09-2016 1:42am

Pickpocket wrote: »

What does the manual-play feel like this year?

Excellent. But im not sure its much improved on last year coz I didn't play that much. I can't play any other way because the possibilities are almost endless.

tigger123 · 09-09-2016 8:06am

Wilberto wrote: »

This was the other thing I meant to mention. The referees can be so inconsistent that it seems almost deliberately done by Konami to make it so.

I don't know if that sounds like a preposterous notion or not but either way, it does make the game realistic.

I remember a version of PES on PS2 (can't remember which exactly) that had a variety of referees, with each having a different level of strictness re fouling. It was an excellent touch.

Luckycharms_74 · 09-09-2016 8:56am

Manufactured Miracle wrote: »

The Games Collection is probably the cheapest and quickest to get it on ps4/XB1

Would the PS store be faster.
I ordered from Game collection before but arrived later than release date.

Exclamation Marc · 09-09-2016 10:50am

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Would the PS store be faster.
I ordered from Game collection before but arrived later than release date.

I've always had my games from TGC arrive before release date with parcel motel so for me it's always been quicker than the store.

Luckycharms_74 · 09-09-2016 11:03am

Manufactured Miracle wrote: »

I've always had my games from TGC arrive before release date with parcel motel so for me it's always been quicker than the store.

Yeah I made mistake of not shipping to my parcel motel address.
It was sent on a Thursday to my Irish address, so didn't receive until Monday.

I will order and use parcel motel for this delivery

v3ttel · 09-09-2016 11:20am

So if I use the Game Collection with an Irish address it takes longer than Parcel Motel? Wish I had known that yesterday before I ordered.

There is no option to change address either.....

Exclamation Marc · 09-09-2016 11:24am

v3ttel wrote: »

So if I use the Game Collection with an Irish address it takes longer than Parcel Motel? Wish I had known that yesterday before I ordered.

There is no option to change address either.....

Usually only a day longer with an Irish although if it hits parcel motel on a Saturday you'll get it Saturday night whereas if its an post, it'd be the Monday.

This is a Thursday release so I'd say they'll ship it on Monday afternoon.

Luckycharms_74 · 09-09-2016 11:24am

v3ttel wrote: »

So if I use the Game Collection with an Irish address it takes longer than Parcel Motel? Wish I had known that yesterday before I ordered.

There is no option to change address either.....

Last year release date was Friday so was shipped on Thursday from GC.
This year release date is Thursday so they will ship Tuesday or Wednesday. I'm sure it will arrive on Friday but I just wanted to make sure i get it, hence Parcel motel, as they deliver Saturday.

v3ttel · 09-09-2016 11:29am

Manufactured Miracle wrote: »

Usually only a day longer with an Irish although if it hits parcel motel on a Saturday you'll get it Saturday night whereas if its an post, it'd be the Monday.

This is a Thursday release so I'd say they'll ship it on Monday afternoon.

Ah ok. I've already emailed their customer service to see if they'll change the address to Parcel Motel. Seems like with Parcel Motel, you have a chance of getting it early, and it's the cover yer arse option for Friday releases.

Normally with Amazon, I get any games the day after release as PM adds an extra day.

Hopefully I get it on release date either way. I'm lining up NBA2K17 also and that's out on the Friday so I would really like to have PES on the Thursday.

Royal Irish · 09-09-2016 6:23pm

I pre ordered and pre downloaded it on the xbox store. Last year I bought it on the US store to get it early. Didn't bother with that this year. I'll be happy enough getting to play it at midnight Wednesday.

Just hope I don't get a full back from the UEFA TOTY on MyClub.

Pickpocket · 09-09-2016 6:36pm

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Excellent. But im not sure its much improved on last year coz I didn't play that much. I can't play any other way because the possibilities are almost endless.

Yeah I was very impressed with it last year. Like you I didn't play that much due to other games and commitments but I'm quite looking forward to getting properly stuck-in this time.

Colemania · 09-09-2016 6:41pm

Royal Irish wrote: »

I pre ordered and pre downloaded it on the xbox store. Last year I bought it on the US store to get it early. Didn't bother with that this year. I'll be happy enough getting to play it at midnight Wednesday.

Just hope I don't get a full back from the UEFA TOTY on MyClub.

I got Ibra last year and Reus the year before. Reus was awful but Ibra was great. Still waiting for that Ronaldo!

IncognitoMan · 09-09-2016 7:04pm

I got Lahm last year I think but I managed to get Ronaldo through one of those agents you get for playing matches. I was only spinning them to get rid of them as well

Royal Irish · 09-09-2016 7:17pm

Colemania wrote: »

I got Ibra last year and Reus the year before. Reus was awful but Ibra was great. Still waiting for that Ronaldo!

I got Bale the first year of MyClub, and Di Maria last year.

My preference this year would be 1. Messi, 2. Pogba, 3. Iniesta

I'll be very disappointed if I get Dani Alves, David Alaba or James Rodriguez

BabyE · 09-09-2016 7:21pm

Liking the look of FIFA tbh, in fairness to FIFA its not that the gameplay isnt very good, it is but it is just its predictability that detracts from it. PES had the feel of being more spontaneous and unpredictable.

Colemania · 09-09-2016 7:51pm

BabyE wrote: »

Liking the look of FIFA tbh, in fairness to FIFA its not that the gameplay isnt very good, it is but it is just its predictability that detracts from it. PES had the feel of being more spontaneous and unpredictable.

Have you played the new one? The gameplay in the last one and just the game in general was quite bad in fifa 16

PES 2017 - Thoughts & Discussion

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