"Irish" woman who tried to travel to Syria jailed

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ShiddyArze wrote: »

Are all Mexicans or Canadians American? No.

Born in northern Ireland gives her and anyone else there, the right to be both.
To be most correct she's northen Irish.

But whether people like it or not, both terms are politically correct.

The entire island is called Ireland. .why are people so strung about this?

Cee-Jay-Cee

ShiddyArze wrote: »

Both.

Many, many Brits or "UKers" have moved to Syria and Iraq to join Isis. I don't think any Irish have, at least not Irish Catholics. So the nationality and religious background is an important point.

Em what's about yer irish man, whachacallim...emmm Paddy, no Seamus...no Ibrahim Halawa, didn't he head off somewhere foreign to fight for or against some regime? See, us Irish do head away off fighting in other countries.

moc moc a moc

NewsMeQuick wrote: »

I hear and see this all the time, "Irish" from the North.

The North of what?

ShiddyArze

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote:

Em what's about yer irish man, whachacallim...emmm Paddy, no Seamus...no Ibrahim Halawa, didn't he head off somewhere foreign to fight for or against some regime? See, us Irish do head away off fighting in other countries.

He's as Irish as the queen will you stop

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beach_walker wrote: »

Where do ISIS stand on the issue of partition?

Where do they stand on the issue of cakes? And flegs?

Joe prim

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

So, is this thread about a woman potentially inducting her kids into terrorism, or the far more pressing issue of her nationality?

Not at all, the most important question is whether she is an ex-Protestant Muslim Funda(mentalist) or an ex-Catholic Muslim Islamic extremist, in other words, which foot does she dig with ?(i.e. dig the graves of the Crusader pig-dog enemies of Allah and his Prophet Mohamed, after she has slaughtered them without mercy etc etc.)

Hans Bricks

You'd have to wonder about the mindset of a westerner who is that dense to convert to such an archaic religion. Never mind embrace the extremist element of it. Can't blame posters wanting to disassociate her from sharing the same nationality.

511

People born in Northern Ireland have dual citizenship as per the Good Friday Agreement.

Mec27

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Not if they have a British passport. There is no NI/Scott/welsh or English passport they are all British citizens how hard is it to understand ? She would be Irish if she had an Irish passport. What next Europe is one big country ? As most of it is on the same landmass ???

Well we are European citizens officially

seamus

Mec27 wrote: »

Well we are European citizens officially

Yeah, but Europe isn't a state or a nation.

Nationality exists whether a person has a passport or not. Where someone holds citizenship of multiple nations, they are considered citizens of all of those nations.

In the case of Northern Ireland, people born there are automatically considered both British and Irish citizens. They do not have to fill out any forms or make any legal declarations to claim either of them. It's automatic.

So to call them either "Irish" or "British" is entirely correct regardless of what passport(s) they hold.

Widdershins

Nationality aside for a moment. If you knew this woman and felt suspicious that she might be radicalised, what would you do?

The Randy Riverbeast

Widdershins wrote: »

Nationality aside for a moment. If you knew this woman and felt suspicious that she might be radicalised, what would you do?

Violent religious people in Northern Ireland? Not so much a suspicion but an expectation.

If there was something that tipped me off like flying an ISIS flag then probably report it to the police.

Widdershins

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

Violent religious people in Northern Ireland? Not so much a suspicion but an expectation.

Oh dear..

If there was something that tipped me off like flying an ISIS flag then probably report it to the police.

I don't think anyone's that stupid,although on second thoughts people do get caught for really stupid 'mistakes' like that sometimes. Nothing you could really report except expressing sympathy with the ''freedom fighters'' kinda thing. Maybe you wouldn't read much into it until you read a story like this one in the OP.

candy-gal1

And realistically the same thing should happen to anyone from there travelling to here!

**** that refugee tripe put over the hapenny bridge, made me extremely angry when i saw it, lets bring everyone in and never get anywhere ourselves if/when we choose in our country because we are heading for being the minority here, sounds strange but true!

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candy-gal1 wrote: »

And realistically the same thing should happen to anyone from there travelling to here!

**** that refugee tripe put over the hapenny bridge, made me extremely angry when i saw it, lets bring everyone in and never get anywhere ourselves if/when we choose in our country because we are heading for being the minority here, sounds strange but true!

The Irish are very far from being a minority. Ireland is planning to bring 10000 refugees in. And guess what. .the Irish will still be the majority. ..and everything will carry on as it always has.
Shocker right?

beach_walker

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

Violent religious people in Northern Ireland? Not so much a suspicion but an expectation.

Well thankfully not everyone has such bigoted views.

Cee-Jay-Cee

ShiddyArze wrote: »

He's as Irish as the queen will you stop

He's every bit as Irish as the idiot from Northern Ireland who wanted to take her kids to Syria.

Spanish Eyes

FFS the wimmins will have to STOP being dictated to by their Muslim overlords. Sorry husbands.

Beyond a joke now really.