When is next Saturday?

anitaca

so when youre driving along and they say take the next left on the right do they mean this saturday or saturday week?

Tilikum

maximoose wrote: »

Saturday 28th is this Saturday.

Saturday 4th is next.

Wrong. 'next' Saturday is the next Saturday to come. Hence the word 'next'
This Saturday & next Saturday mean the same thing.
Saturday the 4th is Saturday week.

I don't know what they're texting kids in schools these days.

LordSutch

Miles Tall Casket wrote: »

Won't somebody think about the Sundays?

Happy Mondays?

entropi

The 28th is THIS Saturday, Saturday coming, as it is part of this week. NEXT Saturday is on the 4th, as it is next week.

The YOPPA

CarrickMcJoe wrote:

Went to make a booking for next Saturday and the girl on the phone says, "that's June 4th". No, next Saturday is the 28th says I. Saturday 4th is Saturday week.

Never mind all this Saturday nonsense...what were you booking???

jester77

entropi wrote: »

The 28th is THIS Saturday, Saturday coming, as it is part of this week. NEXT Saturday is on the 4th, as it is next week.

Next Saturday is the 28th, you are currently in this week but you are not currently in this Saturday. As today is Tuesday, you can say next Tuesday is in next week. But you cannot say that next Wednesday is in next week as the next Wednesday is tomorrow.

Maximus Alexander

jester77 wrote: »

Next Saturday is the 28th, you are currently in this week but you are not currently in this Saturday. As today is Tuesday, you can say next Tuesday is in next week. But you cannot say that next Wednesday is in next week as the next Wednesday is tomorrow.

Nobody in history has ever said "Next Wendnesday" on a Tuesday and meant "Tomorrow". At that point you're not even speaking English any more, it's just some other language with words that look the same, because English speakers won't understand you.

fussyonion

I like The Saturdays.

Eugene Norman

Tilikum wrote: »

Wrong. 'next' Saturday is the next Saturday to come. Hence the word 'next'
This Saturday & next Saturday mean the same thing.
Saturday the 4th is Saturday week.

I don't know what they're texting kids in schools these days.

On a Monday you might get away with saying next Saturday for the Saturday coming but not on a Friday.

The same confusion applies for weekends. In fact more so as I have often been asked what I did this weekend on a Monday (meaning the one just gone). However on a Friday this weekend is the one coming, and next weekend a week later.

fineso.mom

Ah lads stop. This thread is giving me a headache. And by this thread I mean THIS thread that we are currently in right now, not the next thread or this thread two weeks . This thread !!

PARlance

This Saturday = This Saturday
Saturday Week = Saturday Week
Next Saturday = Potential minefield

At this moment in time next Saturday is the 28th.

In my mind at about lunch time on Thursday Saturday the 28th moves from being next Saturday to this Saturday.

I find it bizarre how people can say on a Monday "next Saturday" and be referring to Saturday week. Makes zero sense.

FizzleSticks

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FizzleSticks

FizzleSticks wrote: »

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Well roughly, it could be argued that anytime Thursday but it's really lunch time Thursday when I can start to feel the weekend approaching so then the Saturday approaching feels like "this" one.

boobar

What day is today?

Cathy.C

It's the day before next Sunday.

The King of Moo

There's an important difference between saying "Next Saturday is the 28th" and "The way I think about it, it would make sense that 'next Saturday' would be the 28th, but I accept that the consensus is that next Saturday is 4th June, and that this is what language experts agree should be taught to learners."

FunLover18

Next Saturday is June 4th, it happens next weekend.

This Saturday is May 28th, it happens this weekend.

Using 'next' to refer to 'this coming' is absolutely pointless. Why say I'll meet you next Saturday when it makes much more sense to say I'll meet you on Saturday. May 28th may be the next Saturday but it doesn't need an adjective to differentiate it as there is no Saturday between now and then from which to differentiate.

LordSutch

I suspect the term you use is dependent on the day of the week you say it.

For instance, if on a Sunday Monday or Tuesday I say, I will meet you next Saturday, this clearly refers to Saturday the 28th of May. On the other hand, if I say the same thing later in the week, then the definition becomes a little less clear & open to debate.

...but even at this stage in the week (Wednesday), next Saturday could in some peoples minds mean the 28th, which is technically the next Saturday before Saturday week, which is two Saturdays away!

'This coming Saturday' now refers to the 28th of May.

degsie

There's been many a thread on this before. Next.

CarrickMcJoe

FunLover18 wrote: »

Next Saturday is June 4th, it happens next weekend.

This Saturday is May 28th, it happens this weekend.

Using 'next' to refer to 'this coming' is absolutely pointless. Why say I'll meet you next Saturday when it makes much more sense to say I'll meet you on Saturday. May 28th may be the next Saturday but it doesn't need an adjective to differentiate it as there is no Saturday between now and then from which to differentiate.

So, if you're catching the next bus, you wait on the 2nd one?

CarrickMcJoe

The YOPPA wrote: »

Never mind all this Saturday nonsense...what were you booking???

A restaurant, didn't matter in the end, they were booked up.:(

jester77

I'm amazed at how people can have such difficulty with understanding what the term next means.

If I have 5 balls, all numbered in numerical order, laid out in a row on a table and I take ball number 1. If I say to take the next ball, then by the of logic that a lot of people here are applying, they would take ball number 3.

The King of Moo

"Next Saturday" doesn't mean "the next Saturday!"

If it did we'd say "the next Saturday," but we don't because it means "the Saturday of next week!"

It's fine to say "I've always though it meant 'the next Saturday," but do a basic Google search and find out what most people, and what the experts agree on.

So please, no more of the attempts at humour like "So the next left would actually be the second one!?"

LordSutch

I think the ultimate answer lies within post 120.

Jack Killian

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

A restaurant, didn't matter in the end, they were booked up.:(

Booked up for which Saturday ?

degsie

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

A restaurant, didn't matter in the end, they were booked up.:(

Did you try for the next/following/up-and-coming Saturday?

ectoraige

It's this Saturday coming. As opposed to this Saturday going.

CarrickMcJoe

degsie wrote: »

Did you try for the next/following/up-and-coming Saturday?

Don't feckin talk, was telling the wife the crack and she says, "I said FRIDAY, not Saturday!!!!!!!

Now I've to book for NEXT friday !!

batistuta9

Next Saturday = Saturday week = 4th june

But what's the time one minute before midnight on Saturday? :pac:
23:59 Friday or 23:59 Saturday

Eugene Norman

Brayson Thoughtless Bottle wrote: »

At this moment in time next Saturday is the 28th.

In my mind at about lunch time on Thursday Saturday the 28th moves from being next Saturday to this Saturday.

I find it bizarre how people can say on a Monday "next Saturday" and be referring to Saturday week. Makes zero sense.

This is probably the way most people approach it.

A friend calls you up on a Saturday. Asks if you want to go to the pub. You say no. You both agree on next Saturday (the one coming).

No controversy there I think unless people think this Saturday should apply there too. Weirdos.

On Monday to confirm he texts "still up for next Saturday?". On Friday he'd say "still up for this Saturday?"

Maximus Alexander

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

Don't feckin talk, was telling the wife the crack and she says, "I said FRIDAY, not Saturday!!!!!!!

Now I've to book for NEXT friday !!

Sorry to hear you had to delay your dinner until next week.

galljga1

Kev_2012 wrote: »

This saturday is the 28th, next Saturday is June 4th. Saturday week is also June 4th

Would that make the previous Saturday the 21st and last Saturday the 14th?

Maximus Alexander

galljga1 wrote: »

Would that make the previous Saturday the 21st and last Saturday the 14th?

No because this is language, not mathematics.

gramar

LordSutch wrote: »

I suspect the term you use is dependent on the day of the week you say it.

For instance, if on a Sunday Monday or Tuesday I say, I will meet you next Saturday, this clearly refers to Saturday the 28th of May. On the other hand, if I say the same thing later in the week, then the definition becomes a little less clear & open to debate.

...but even at this stage in the week (Wednesday), next Saturday could in some peoples minds mean the 28th, which is technically the next Saturday before Saturday week, which is two Saturdays away!

'This coming Saturday' now refers to the 28th of May.

It also brings up the debate of 'this Saturday', at what point does 'this Saturday' stop being the previous Saturday and when does it become the coming Saturday. Easier to determine with the use of the past tense but for example on Monday you could say...'I was out this Saturday with my mates'...but at some point during the week that would change to 'I was out with my mates last Saturday'.

If on a Monday you said 'last Saturday' it could be taken to mean two Saturdays ago.

FunLover18

CarrickMcJoe wrote:

So, if you're catching the next bus, you wait on the 2nd one?

No because days and buses are not the same thing. You're comparing different contextual circumstances.

Buses are far more frequent, therefore to say "I'm getting the bus" is too vague and we need to be more specific eg the next bus, the 45, etc.

Saturdays come around once a week and do not require such differentiation. So this coming Saturday is either this Saturday or just Saturday. No confusion. The confusion only arises when people needlessly use 'next' because they want to be super literal when as has been pointed out 'next Saturday' commonly refers to the Saturday of next week.

If I said to you lets take this up again on Friday you're not going to wonder which Friday I'm talking. Therefore reserving the adjective 'next' for it is utterly redundant.

osarusan

Depends on how many days away the approaching Saturday is. The farther away you are, the more people use 'next'. The closer you get to it, the more people use 'this' and 'next' starts to refer to the Saturday following 'this' one.

mikehunts

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

Went to make a booking for next Saturday and the girl on the phone says, "that's June 4th".
No, next Saturday is the 28th says I.
Saturday 4th is Saturday week.

She maintained sat week is the 4th June .
So, when is next sat. May 28th or June 4th?

So she said next Saturday is the 4th and then said it was Saturday week. This is well fooked up, good job its not a Monday.

galljga1

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

No because this is language, not mathematics.

Agreed, so next Saturday is the coming Saturday which is the 28th May as per definition:
(of a time) coming immediately after the time of writing or speaking.

Maximus Alexander

galljga1 wrote: »

Agreed, so next Saturday is the coming Saturday which is the 28th May as per definition:
(of a time) coming immediately after the time of writing or speaking.

That is not how next is used in this context. Word meanings are context dependent. Next [day] means [day] in next week.

the_pen_turner

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

That is not how next is used in this context. Word meanings are context dependent. Next [day] means [day] in next week.

only to some people.

it doesn't mean that to me. next Saturday is the nearest Saturday.

the only reason I would use next Saturday to mean a Saturday that wasn't the next one would be on a Friday when the closest Saturday is tomorrow


anything other than that is just confusing and illogical

Maximus Alexander

the_pen_turner wrote: »

only to some people.

it doesn't mean that to me. next Saturday is the nearest Saturday.

the only reason I would use next Saturday to mean a Saturday that wasn't the next one would be on a Friday when the closest Saturday is tomorrow


anything other than that is just confusing and illogical

You may find it confusing and illogical, and you're welcome to feel that way, but it's standard English usage. If you want to be understood by the majority of people, next Saturday will mean Saturday next week.

FunLover18

the_pen_turner wrote: »

only to some people.

it doesn't mean that to me. next Saturday is the nearest Saturday.

the only reason I would use next Saturday to mean a Saturday that wasn't the next one would be on a Friday when the closest Saturday is tomorrow


anything other than that is just confusing and illogical

But the closest Saturday is just Saturday, I'd argue it's more confusing and illogical to differentiate it with 'next'.

the_pen_turner

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

You may find it confusing and illogical, and you're welcome to feel that way, but it's standard English usage. If you want to be understood by the majority of people, next Saturday will mean Saturday next week.

when the system is written down it makes some sense but when someone says next Saturday the system is out the window because not everybody uses the same system.

it may be perfectly correct but it is stupid to have next meaning one thing in relation to days and mean something else when used for other things like the example of roads.


its all about context and perspective. both of which are easily interpreted differently..

Lyaiera

Is today even a day? I don't know any more.

xabi

This week, Next week
This Saturday, Next Saturday

galljga1

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

You may find it confusing and illogical, and you're welcome to feel that way, but it's standard English usage. If you want to be understood by the majority of people, next Saturday will mean Saturday next week.

The majority of people in my circle use next as per the dictionary definition. I and they would regard this as "standard English".

Ben D Bus

You know when you say or read a word over and over and over again it can start to sound ridiculous?

I no longer like Saturday. This one, the next one, the next last one just gone. None of them. They all sound ridiculous

Maximus Alexander

galljga1 wrote: »

The majority of people in my circle use next as per the dictionary definition. I and they would regard this as "standard English".

As would Cockneys with rhyming slang. Do a bit of research though, and you will find that you're in the minority.

galljga1

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

As would Cockneys with rhyming slang. Do a bit of research though, and you will find that you're in the minority.

I have to disagree. In my experience, the majority of people regard next Saturday as the 28th. Maybe it is worth a poll.