The Sunday Game 2016 Thread

Dirty Dingus McGee

I might as well set up a thread where we can all complain about the Sunday game seeing as there were complaints about it taking over the championship thread.

Why doesn't Michael Lyster tell Brolly to shut up about topics that are completely irrelevant to todays game.

He's an unbelievable dose to listen to.

The way he's sitting slouched in his chair spinning around like a school child is terribly immature.

Rant over.

ProudDUB

Why is modern day player welfare not relevant in any discussion of any game? Far too many problems facing the GAA these days, are swept under the carpet by RTE imo. Am not saying that Brolly is the poster child for fair and balanced discussion, but at least he raises issues that others won't. If they aren't going to be discussed during The Sunday Game, when will they be discussed?

Dirty Dingus McGee

ProudDUB wrote: »

Why is modern day player welfare not relevant in any discussion of any game? Far too many problems facing the GAA these days, are swept under the carpet by RTE imo. Am not saying that Brolly is the poster child for fair and balanced discussion, but at least he raises issues that others won't. If they aren't going to be discussed during The Sunday Game, when will they be discussed?

These kind of issues should be discussed in the night time show in my opinion half time is for discussing the game at hand.

he wrote an article today partly slagging off the GPA and their commercial interests in todays indo while at the same time he is being paid by RTE and The Sunday Independent which is highly hypocritical of him.Also Joe fails to realise it's the players fault to a large degree for the commitment needed at intercounty football if they don't want to put in such an arduous effort then they should stick with their clubs.

NufcNavan

What an insufferable bore Martin Carney is.

cj maxx

Will someone start a joe brolly is a bollix thread ?

cj maxx

Will someone start a joe brolly is a ? thread ?

corny

NufcNavan wrote: »

What an insufferable bore Martin Carney is.

It must be said, i agree.

NufcNavan

corny wrote: »

It must be said, i agree.

On numerous occasions.

WesternZulu

Brolly is after saying that Keith Huggins isn't a half back...he's only win how many all-star there.
It's hard to take him seriously at all!!

RD10

Keith higgins is one of the best corner backs in the game. Nonsense by brolly.

Say Your Number

In fairness, Brolly made a lot of sense talking about Mayo there.

PressRun

Tbh, he's only repeating whispers around the county about what kind of role Keith Higgins will have in the team this year.

OldMrBrennan83

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naughto

I must be the only one that thinks Higgs will be in the cornor this yr not against Galway but for the Connaught final he will be

corny

RD10 wrote: »

Keith higgins is one of the best corner backs in the game. Nonsense by brolly.

Brolly does talk nonsense but he didn't say he was a ****e corner back.

I think his point was Higgins might be better used up the field. If Mayo had more options in the back three i think it would be obvious.

PressRun

There are arguments for keeping him in the corner or moving him out. Once Ger Cafferky comes back and if Chris Barrett can get back to full fitness, I think he probably will be moved. Management were actually already beginning to experiment with this in the league against Donegal, but he was injured fairly early on in that match before a full picture could be formed about what he'd be like in a more forward role.

ProudDUB

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

These kind of issues should be discussed in the night time show in my opinion half time is for discussing the game at hand.

he wrote an article today partly slagging off the GPA and their commercial interests in todays indo while at the same time he is being paid by RTE and The Sunday Independent which is highly hypocritical of him.Also Joe fails to realise it's the players fault to a large degree for the commitment needed at intercounty football if they don't want to put in such an arduous effort then they should stick with their clubs.

It is relevant. Genuine questions are being asked as to why players in his own county don't want to play for McGeeney. It it a personality thing? Is it a Cross vs County thing? Is it a 'Jamie Clark is an oddball' thing? Is it a Kernans thing? Is McGeeney being too demanding of his players?

Carney said in the match commentary that Armagh lost as they just don't have the players. Brolly said they do have the players, they just don't want to commit to inter county football anymore, as the demands being made on them are too excessive. How is that not all relevant during an Armagh match, especially as their manager has a reputation for being one of the more demanding managers out there?

I agree that half time of a game, is not the time to be discussing the wider issues facing the game. But the day time show is a three hour show & they were only showing one game live. There is more than enough time, in a three hour show, to discuss GAA matters in general. The evening show has time constraints that the day time show does not have.

Dirty Dingus McGee

ProudDUB wrote: »

It is relevant. Genuine questions are being asked as to why players in his own county don't want to play for McGeeney. It it a personality thing? Is it a Cross vs County thing? Is it a 'Jamie Clark in an oddball' thing? Is it a Kernans thing? Is McGeeney being too demanding of his players?

Carney said in the match commentary that Armagh lost as they just don't have the players. Brolly said they do have the players, they just don't want to commit to inter county football anymore, as the demands being made on them are to excessive. How is that not all relevant during an Armagh match, especially as their manager has a reputation for being one of the more demanding managers out there?

I agree that half time of a game, is not the time to be discussing the wider issues facing the game. But the day time show is a three hour show & they were only showing one game live. There is more than enough time, in a three hour show, to discuss GAA matters in general. The evening show has time constraints that the day time show does not have.

Fair enough.I just felt he went on a bit and was clearly using it as a way of following up to the article he wrote in the Sunday Independent today.

I'd take anything Brolly says about the quality of Armaghs players with a pinch of salt though.Today he claimed Tony Kernan was one of the great footballers in the country which is clearly not true as he's clearly been no more than decent at inter county level over the last 10 years or so.

ProudDUB

Joe Brolly going on a bit?

You don't say ! :rolleyes:

The problem with Brolly is that he goes way over the top in a lot of his commentary and he personalizes it to a very extreme degree. I don't know when or why McGeeney pissed into his cornflakes, but it's very obvious that there is something going on there.

It's a pity, as it just makes people roll their eyes, when he opens his gob and the fact that he is raising genuinely valid points, often gets over looked. If Brolly toned it down a bit, the points he is trying to make, would probably get better traction, but I don't think he has the will or the humility to do that. He loves the attention that comes with the punchy sound bites & the controversy that they create, far too much.

keeponhurling

I think 2016 could be remembered as the summer of the "Tomas O Se rant against the black card"

You heard it here first !

RIP Amhran na Bhfiann. Violently butchered by a lady prior to throw in in Clones today.

Note to ulster council, please get someone who can sing next time

ProudDUB

It doesn't matter if they get someone in who can sing. The crappy 1970's tannoy systems in most county grounds, ensures that the anthem always sounds crap, especially if sung by a lone female. The high notes always sound like a cat being strangled. They could get Shirley Bassey in and it wouldn't make a bit of difference. That's why a band should always play it imo.

ProudDUB

ProudDUB wrote: »

It doesn't matter if they get someone in who can sing. The crappy 1970's tannoy systems in most county grounds, ensures that the anthem always sounds crap, especially if sung by a lone female. They could get Shirley Bassey in and it wouldn't make a bit of difference. That's why a band should always play it imo.

That's a fair point. The tannoy systems are absolutely rubbish. The drole lad in Thurles for example all I can hear is mumble mumble mumble. And I agree with a band too. Far better and generates an atmosphere

BoJack Horseman

3rd week of football ... 3rd week of only the Ulster championship existing in the eyes of RTE...

ProudDUB

It was also originally written as a march, to be ya know marched to quickly and, be played quickly by a marching band. It wasn't written to be sung unaccompanied, even though it has words. So when you slow it down to sing it, it effs up the note structure, which also contributes to it sounding off, so ofen, when sung by a lone cailin. Was told that by someone who knows a thing or two about musak.

Dirty Dingus McGee

ProudDUB wrote: »

It was also originally written as a march, to be ya know marched to quickly and, be played quickly by a marching band. It wasn't written to be sung unaccompanied, even though it has words. So when you slow it down to sing it, it effs up the note structure, which also contributes to it sounding off, so ofen, when sung by a lone cailin. Was told that by someone who knows a thing or two about musak.

The anthem is actually quite rousing when it is played at a quick tempo and sung with a strong powerful voice.Unfortunately whoever is in charge of the playing of the anthem has forgotten that.

Jack L sang a great version of it at an international rules match years ago and I remember Joe Maher (the Offaly footballer) doing a good job of it at our county finals precisely because they had strong voices and didn't whine out the anthem.

citykat

ProudDUB wrote: »

Joe Brolly going on a bit?

You don't say ! :rolleyes:

The problem with Brolly is that he goes way over the top in a lot of his commentary and he personalizes it to a very extreme degree. I don't know when or why McGeeney pissed into his cornflakes, but it's very obvious that there is something going on there.

It's a pity, as it just makes people roll their eyes, when he opens his gob and the fact that he is raising genuinely valid points, often gets over looked. If Brolly toned it down a bit, the points he is trying to make, would probably get better traction, but I don't think he has the will or the humility to do that. He loves the attention that comes with the punchy sound bites & the controversy that they create, far too much.

Brolly has mentioned several times recently McGeeney telling him, in front of a bunch of former Derry players, that he (Brolly) never got the best out of himself. Happened at Eamonn Coleman's funeral.

ProudDUB

Agreed. When sung/played at the correct tempo, its brilliant. When slowed down excessively, as it tends to be, on days like this, it sounds brutal. My favourite version is at Croke Park, when the game isn't important enough to roll out the Artane Boys Band. They just play the recording by the RTE Concert Orchestra, the one RTE used to play at the end of the nights broadcast. Hearing that,a full blooded orchestra, playing it at the correct tempo, coming out of the Croke Park speakers, is fabulous !

Dyr

Brolly, Burns and tommy f***ing carr

the unholy trinity

I wonder if tommy carr likes lagging jackets?

DDC1990

Brilliant intro to the Hurling with Daly and McGrath talking about their favourite Senple Stadium memories.

Great stuff.

Coillte_Bhoy

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

3rd week of football ... 3rd week of only the Ulster championship existing in the eyes of RTE...

it's the only football on today

Itssoeasy

Marty didn't waste time in getting the old Muhammad Ali quote in. Man Marty.

BoJack Horseman

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

it's the only football on today

If so then the 100% dominance of Ulster so far this year on RTE is even less necessary.

Knowing there was only 1 match today should have compelled them to remember there are 3 other provinces for the last two weeks.

Oh, and it's Ulster again next week on RTE with it preceding their 1st non-Ulster game of the season!

dastardly00

Marty annoys me sometimes as he describes every score as brilliant, fantastic, magnificent etc. They can't all be that good!

dastardly00

How come The Sunday Game is on RTE1 this season?

Kristopherus

dastardly00 wrote: »

How come The Sunday Game is on RTE1 this season?

The kids were complaining about their cartoons being missing:D:D:D

TCDStudent1

dastardly00 wrote: »

How come The Sunday Game is on RTE1 this season?

A guess: maybe related to the euros??

callaway92

How, after all of these years are Marty Morrissey and Michael Lyster (big fan of the latter) still the only regular main commentators.

That Marty Morrissey is genuinely useless and it's like RTE just use him as some sort of a prop these days for a twisted type of comedy.

Coillte_Bhoy

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

If so then the 100% dominance of Ulster so far this year on RTE is even less necessary.

Knowing there was only 1 match today should have compelled them to remember there are 3 other provinces for the last two weeks.

Oh, and it's Ulster again next week on RTE with it preceding their 1st non-Ulster game of the season!

Hardly too many alternatives that were that enticing in fairness.

ProudDUB

Is it just me, or do the hurling highlights from Croker, look weird when the cameras are in the Cusack Stand and not the Hogan, where they normally are?

dirkmeister

How did the ref miss that jab from the Mayo corner back?!

Absolutely scandalous considering the damage that can be done with a jab like that.

OldMrBrennan83

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PTH2009

Eddie Brennan's face just there when Daly mentioned the westmeath under 21s lol

OldMrBrennan83

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ProudDUB

Ridiculous carry on.

OldMrBrennan83

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DuffleBag

That armagh piece was embarassing. County stooge or whoever that was sounding like he was vomiting what he had written down earlier into the camera word for word. Armagh tie on as well to show some solidarity. As Tomás said, why did they felt the need to reply to a pundit?

TCDStudent1

DuffleBag wrote: »

That armagh piece was embarassing. County stooge or whoever that was sounding like he was vomiting what he had written down earlier into the camera word for word. Armagh tie on as well to show some solidarity. As Tomás said, why did they felt the need to reply to a pundit?

I agree with you that it came across as embarrassing. However, pundits are generally lambasted for the 'opinion' they give, look at Tomas o'se and Dublin recently. Here, brolly said some 'factually' incorrect things about Armagh (according to Armagh anyway). If he is going to purport these as facts and they are not facts, then brolly (and the Sunday game) should be called up on it.

J Cheever Loophole

DuffleBag wrote: »

That armagh piece was embarassing. County stooge or whoever that was sounding like he was vomiting what he had written down earlier into the camera word for word. Armagh tie on as well to show some solidarity.

That 'stooge' was our County Chairman, Paul McArdle. A decent fella and as hard a working administrator / volunteer as you're likely to get, doing it all solely for the benefit of our games. You're spot on too with the loyalty - that's why he felt the need to put himself forward on national TV - despite his clear nervousness - to defend his own.

DuffleBag wrote: »

As Tomás said, why did they felt the need to reply to a pundit?

Why? Because there has been a significant fall out in the North from Brolly's comments, and within Armagh in particular.

Brolly followed up his comments by offering to take on anyone from the Armagh Executive in a public debate. To my mind that represents a bit of goading.

There is clear rationale therefore for the response. In weighing up the options for their next move, the County Executive have felt compelled to respond, given the damaging nature of his original comments which have hit the reputation of individuals and our County.

I would have preferred if they had not responded, but then I don't have responsibility for Armagh GAA.

ultrapercy

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

I agree with you that it came across as embarrassing. However, pundits are generally lambasted for the 'opinion' they give, look at Tomas o'se and Dublin recently. Here, brolly said some 'factually' incorrect things about Armagh (according to Armagh anyway). If he is going to purport these as facts and they are not facts, then brolly (and the Sunday game) should be called up on it.

Yes Brolly is a solicitor by trade and brings that background to his new profession as a pundit. Like Roy Keane who is always also factually correct but morally wrong, Brolly needs to be stood up to more. Brolly is all about Brolly, he was as a player and he never put his head on the managerial paraphit. County players and managers should not be beyond criticism, but there is a line that should not be crossed. The far side of this invisible line is where Joe builds his house.

DuffleBag

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

I agree with you that it came across as embarrassing. However, pundits are generally lambasted for the 'opinion' they give, look at Tomas o'se and Dublin recently. Here, brolly said some 'factually' incorrect things about Armagh (according to Armagh anyway). If he is going to purport these as facts and they are not facts, then brolly (and the Sunday game) should be called up on it.

A decent point, but it's a storm in a teacup. Get on with it and play football. Whats said on tv or in newspapers shouldnt affect how a team kicks a ball around a field.