The Sunday Game 2016 Thread

homerjay2005

Jayop wrote: »

YA Gilberto pointed that out. I didn't watch the highlights and just seen the two boys talking about it so I hadn't noticed they were in the square before the ball was played.

2nd goal also was a square ball, as the ball took a second play on the way in, by at which stage, the player was in the square.

so this is a 6 point difference, two major, game changing errors from the officials yet, the sunday game panel said he had a great game.

OldMrBrennan83

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Jayop

I can't even get pissed off now despite bad referring costing us the win. I thought Tyrone played really poorly and even though they weather was a factor too many of our big players didn't show up. Harte played like he used to years ago, incredibly inconsistent from one possession to the next, Sean Cavanagh was poor and the full back line looked so porous.

I wouldn't moan too much about the attack because the conditions really were poor and we still scored a nice tally. A lot if wife's were to be expected.

kilns

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

Cannot abide Jarlath Burns.

Jarlath Burns was a disgrace last night, he said no need to change the championship format because weaker counties dont have much interest and favour their county championship. The problem is that the likes of him are on these councils etc so if epitomises those attidtudes no wonder the GAA is dying a slow death at county level

ProudDUB

kilns wrote: »

Jarlath Burns was a disgrace last night, he said no need to change the championship format because weaker counties dont have much interest and favour their county championship. The problem is that the likes of him are on these councils etc so if epitomises those attidtudes no wonder the GAA is dying a slow death at county level

+1

He's running for office, I'm convinced of it. Last nights show was nothing more than a party political broadcast on behalf of the Vote For Jarlath party.

danganabu

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Tipp beating cork was not a shock to many people, Tipp should have beaten them the last time they played and Cork got out of jail.

Rubbish, it was a huge huge shock.

7/1 in the bookies, no win against said opposition since 1944 and missing 11 players that played Championship football last year.

Boom__Boom

ProudDUB wrote: »

+1

He's running for office, I'm convinced of it. Last nights show was nothing more than a party political broadcast on behalf of the Vote For Jarlath party.

Yup - everything was super according to Jarlath last night, was have expecting him to burst out in song at one stage - I think he must have managed to get in positive mentions to about 8 different county boards.


I can't imagine that any other candidates would have been too pleased by such blatant electioneering on such a platform.

Nidgeweasel

ProudDUB wrote: »

+1

He's running for office, I'm convinced of it. Last nights show was nothing more than a party political broadcast on behalf of the Vote For Jarlath party.

Course he is. Been sniffing around since he started embarrassing himself bleating on about the mark. The man has absolutely no tact.

I'd love to see Ger Loughane thump him round the head with a hurl for an hour and a half on a sunday evening. Might endear more 'northern' viewers to the hurling highlights at the very least.

OldMrBrennan83

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ProudDUB

Boom__Boom wrote: »

Yup - everything was super according to Jarlath last night, was have expecting him to burst out in song at one stage - I think he must have managed to get in positive mentions to about 8 different county boards.


I can't imagine that any other candidates would have been too pleased by such blatant electioneering on such a platform.

I'd say RTE are none to impressed too. He's on there to give his own opinions, such as they are. Not the opinions that will get him the most votes in an election. It was so bloody blatant too, surely they have to be aware of it?

danganabu

Patww79 wrote: »

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It's the same as with trying to promote Hurling in certain counties, you cannot help those who do not wish to be helped unfortunately.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Patww79 wrote: »

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A lot of it isn't to do with the players not caring it's to do with population.

You just have a bee in your bonnet about it because your own county have been sh1te for years because of club infighting and indifference from players, not all smaller counties are like that.

OldMrBrennan83

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Dirty Dingus McGee

Patww79 wrote: »

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Ridiculous idea to want a certain number of weaker counties not to bother with it.

It's like saying if your from a junior club you shouldn't bother playing.

You give county teams more games in the summer time at their own level and a chance for future progress to the higher level would be afar more positive and sensible approach.

OldMrBrennan83

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ProudDUB

Patww79 wrote: »

I'm no fan of Burns, and I didn't see the whole thing, but what was mentioned above would be bang on the money. A lot of weaker counties will always be weak no matter what the format as the players just don't give a crap.

Of course they give a crap. Why would you give up the drink for 10 months of the year & turn up at 7am for training in the pitch dark, January mud & muck, if they didn't care? It's the ridiculous championship structure, the insane games to training ratio & the excessive demands being made on players by careerist intercounty managers, that are driving players away in droves. It's not a lack of caring on their part.

Jayop

ProudDUB wrote: »

Of course they give a crap. Why would you give up the drink for 10 months of the year & turn up at 7am for training in the pitch dark, January mud & muck, if they didn't care? It's the ridiculous championship structure, the insane games to training ratio & the excessive demands being made on players by careerist intercounty managers, that are driving players away in droves. It's not a lack of caring on their part.

Look at Leitrim. Great win for them and look how much it meant to them, training so much for so little return that a win in the back door is celebrated probably more by their players than the Dubs would winning a provincial now.

liam7831

http://www.thesun.ie/irishsol/homepage/news/7093654/Former-GAA-star-probed-over-tweet-saying-woman-had-face-like-the-back-of-a-van.html

OldMrBrennan83

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Jayop

Patww79 wrote: »

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You only hear about it in the big counties that had a decent history. Galway and Derry are the ones we've read a lot about players turning down the country team.

Leitrim not so much.

ProudDUB

Patww79 wrote: »

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Yes, it is, but I don't think it is because the players don't care. The GAA got on just fine for over 100 years with a lot of counties only having one game a year, back before the back door was introduced. Players still cared about lining out for their counties then, even though most counties hadn't a prayer of winning Sam or Liam.

But back then, the players could live their lives and build their careers and still happily represent their counties. There was a good balance in all areas of their lives. These days, the demands on players are so excessive, lads are asking serious questions as to the merits of being an inter county player. It's not that they don't care. It's that they are being asked to kiss their lives goodbye, for the extent of their inter county career. More and more of them, are becoming increasingly unwilling to do it and, who could blame them?

Jayop

County careers are getting shorter and shorter. Very few players, especially from teams that won't realistically win anything will play beyond their mid twenties.

Boom__Boom

Jayop wrote: »

You only hear about it in the big counties that had a decent history. Galway and Derry are the ones we've read a lot about players turning down the country team.

Leitrim not so much.

The Longford manager came out and said that 44% of the players they asked to join the county panel turned them down.

PTH2009

If Tyrone win the all Ireland will rte have to abandon recording from the Tyrone hotel as rte is banned from the Tyrone camp ??

I imagine rte may do a deal but don't think Tyrone will win it this year

Not a fan Armagh or Tyrone personally

Nidgeweasel

Boom__Boom wrote: »

The Longford manager came out and said that 44% of the players they asked to join the county panel turned them down.

44% of the time they leave all the time.

Jayop

PTH2009 wrote: »

Not a fan Armagh or Tyrone personally

Well get over it.

As for recording in the hotel, I don't really care. RTE are a shambles in pretty much every way and I fully support the Tyrone stance in not speaking to them.

zetecescort

what is Tomas O Se looking at when he's talking? Lyster asks him a question and O Se is looking the other way as he answers

jojofizzio

zetecescort wrote: »

what is Tomas O Se looking at when he's talking? Lyster asks him a question and O Se is looking the other way as he answers

Was watching him there while brolly was ranting...he was staring off into space..looked a bit like he was losing the will to live tbh..

J Cheever Loophole

jojofizzio wrote: »

Was watching him there while brolly was ranting...he was staring off into space..looked a bit like he was losing the will to live tbh..

Wouldn't you if you had to watch that?

Dirty Dingus McGee

J Cheever Loophole wrote: »

Wouldn't you if you had to watch that?

He's being paid money to be a bit more professional.

I speak to clients on the phone all the time in work, if I wasn't being paid I'd probably tell the clients on the phone to **** off every time they have complaint but I am being paid so I have to be a bit more professional.

Dyr

zetecescort wrote: »

what is Tomas O Se looking at when he's talking? Lyster asks him a question and O Se is looking the other way as he answers

He's hoping if he avoids eye contact Brolly won't shout over him and call him Tawmass

Say Your Number

Spillane being positive about an Ulster Championship game, this has to be a first surely.

ciarriaithuaidh

Where in hell was that Antrim v Limerick game held? Looked like a random school or prison pitch! :eek:

OldMrBrennan83

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PeterTheEighth

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

He's being paid money to be a bit more professional.

I have far more trouble with Brolly to be honest. Slouching back in his chair, interrupting constantly, and even looking at his watch at one point. HE is very unprofessional.

ProudDUB

Pat Spillane throwing his hat in the pot for the Cork job. Now THAT is something I'd pay money to watch.

cj maxx

Say Your Number wrote: »

Spillane being positive about an Ulster Championship game, this has to be a first surely.

The league match between monaghan and donegal was even better i think.

Realt Dearg Sec

Patww79 wrote: »

What's Spillane on about with the example of Antrim being one of the top four populated counties but being out already? Surely you can only count less than half the number when talking population in GAA terms.

Half the population of Antrim would still be 308,000 people. I can't think of four counties with a bigger population than that.

PTH2009

I think the lads had a few pints before the show lol

They all seemed giddy enough

Stoner

ProudDUB wrote:

Pat Spillane throwing his hat in the pot for the Cork job. Now THAT is something I'd pay money to watch.

I thought he made some good points, he was talking about overall involvement too, even being a selector.

I think some sort of underage development / structure building appointment would suit him , he could have a great impact at that level as that's where it's needed .

ProudDUB

Stoner wrote: »

I thought he made some good points, he was talking about overall involvement too, even being a selector.

I think some sort of underage development / structure building appointment would suit him , he could have a great impact at that level as that's where it's needed .

I dunno. On the surface, you would think that someone with 654 All Ireland medals in their back pocket, would have something to offer any coaching set up. But he won them donkeys years ago. The game has moved on a lot since his day. He is also very dismissive of modern day coaching methods & strategies & very resistant to change. Not so sure someone like that, is the best person to have around in any modern day mentoring capacity.

Then there is his rather...ahem...abrasive personality. He admitted last night, that no one has ever approached him about being a part of an inter county set up, at any level, in any county, despite his throwing his hat into the ring on many occasions. There has to be a reason for that. I think Pat just being Pat, could possibly alienate more people, than his experience as a player could compensate for.

mountgomery burns

Lads he came out staunchly against diving at the start of the show. Then, after Des Cahills disbelief at him not ever leveling someone, he admitted he dived.

It was like he completely forgot what he had said earlier. I couldn't take him seriously if he was coaching me anyway.

bruschi

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Lads he came out staunchly against diving at the start of the show. Then, after Des Cahills disbelief at him not ever leveling someone, he admitted he dived.

It was like he completely forgot what he had said earlier. I couldn't take him seriously if he was coaching me anyway.

this is the one thing that gets levelled at commentators which really annoys me. If Ciaran Whelan says that a player should be suspended because they struck someone, is it dismissed just because he did it too when he played? Same goes for Duignan any time he mentions anything about a dirty stroke in hurling, everyone is straight away on to remind about the stroke he pulled when playing Clare, as if it means his point has no legitimacy.

Just because an analyst may have done something against the rules of the game, it shouldnt automatically mean that they cant discuss it. Spillanes point is right, there is diving creeping in more and more, and it needs to be eradicated. just because he admitted to taking a fall the odd time doesnt mean his point is wrong. He took advantage of a system that has never been fully corrected and is only getting worse.

Boom__Boom

ProudDUB wrote: »

I dunno. On the surface, you would think that someone with 654 All Ireland medals in their back pocket, would have something to offer any coaching set up. But he won them donkeys years ago. The game has moved on a lot since his day. He is also very dismissive of modern day coaching methods & strategies & very resistant to change. Not so sure someone like that, is the best person to have around in any modern day mentoring capacity.

Then there is his rather...ahem...abrasive personality. He admitted last night, that no one has ever approached him about being a part of an inter county set up, at any level, in any county, despite his throwing his hat into the ring on many occasions. There has to be a reason for that. I think Pat just being Pat, could possibly alienate more people, than his experience as a player could compensate for.

Lads ye aren't falling for Pat's guff that he is seriously looking for a management job?

The one time of late he has "seriously" thrown his hat into the ring was when he was making noises about wanting the Kerry U21 job. Of course this was when everyone in Kerry and his mother, knew the plan was for Jack O'Connor to move up with the minors who he won back-to-back minor All-Irelands with to U21 grade. No-one in Kerry took him even remotely serious. Jack O'Connor winning manager of multiple All-Irelands at multiple different grades with multiple different teams or Pat "RTE's official GAA Court Jester" Spillane whose managerial experience would fit on the back of a stamp??They knew he was just rolling out some nonsense to fill some air-time.

Pat has no notion whatsoever of moving from his cushy money for old rope gig on RTE where he gets to say whatever nonsense happens to float through his head. The guff yesterday was just rolled out after 2 non-event games. The stuff about Cork was the ultimate give-away ffs ; Cork GAA football folk would prefer to have no team that to have one managed by Pat.

Realt Dearg Sec

Boom__Boom wrote: »

Cork GAA football folk would prefer to have no team that to have one managed by Pat.

They'd probably win more that way.

ProudDUB

Boom__Boom wrote: »

Pat has no notion whatsoever of moving from his cushy money for old rope gig on RTE where he gets to say whatever nonsense happens to float through his head. The guff yesterday was just rolled out after 2 non-event games. The stuff about Cork was the ultimate give-away ffs ; Cork GAA football folk would prefer to have no team that to have one managed by Pat.

And that says a lot more about the Cork mentality, than it does about the bould Pat ! :rolleyes:

Stoner

ProudDUB wrote:

And that says a lot more about the Cork mentality, than it does about the bould Pat !

I don't know , I certainly didn't want Mick O'Dwyer . Fair play to the Cork lads if they didn't take him or want a Kerry man, if they lost it would be because they wouldn't have enough football in them and if they won it would be because of him.
They might take Jack O'C though.:)

He might be good at underage levels though since its these structures that we hear are neglected in Cork. He could bring a bit of something to it.

mountgomery burns

bruschi wrote: »

this is the one thing that gets levelled at commentators which really annoys me. If Ciaran Whelan says that a player should be suspended because they struck someone, is it dismissed just because he did it too when he played? Same goes for Duignan any time he mentions anything about a dirty stroke in hurling, everyone is straight away on to remind about the stroke he pulled when playing Clare, as if it means his point has no legitimacy.

Just because an analyst may have done something against the rules of the game, it shouldnt automatically mean that they cant discuss it. Spillanes point is right, there is diving creeping in more and more, and it needs to be eradicated. just because he admitted to taking a fall the odd time doesnt mean his point is wrong. He took advantage of a system that has never been fully corrected and is only getting worse.

It was the way he said it. Like a champion of the old game, and that this blight is now visible in every team in every game. And then no more than 30 minutes later turns around and admits to being a serial diver.

I don't fully disagree with you it was just hilarious watching the irony of it. I don't agree with you re Whelan though. He stepped over the line far too often to be entitled to get paid to castigate others from the hotseat. Let somebody else do that.

dastardly00

I thought Joe Stack was very good at presenting the live coverage of Wexford vs Offaly. I'd like to see him more often on the Sunday/Saturday Game.

Dyr

NufcNavan wrote: »

What an insufferable bore Martin Carney is.

Theres absolutely no malice in him though