The Second Coming - Garth on his way, again, possibly, 2017

Soft Boiled

beach_walker wrote: »

Given the choice I'd much rather spend a night out with a bunch of yaa-hoo, plastic stetson wearing, cowboy-boot wearing Garth fans than a room full of music snob bores.
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Are they the only choices available to you or something?

Captain Flaps

bobmalooka wrote: »

Too little too late IMHO

Why would Garth come back to backwards Dublin when he can fill stadiums everywhere. Wembley will be laughing at us when he plays 10 shows there.

And I won't step foot in Dublin again anyway after ye Dubs ruined it for us

Honest question, would there be enough Gombeens in the UK to fill Wembeley 10 times over? How about 5? I was led to believe that it was our boggers flooding the streets for Garth, it would surprise me to hear they're the same in the UK...

Maireadio

Shurimgreat wrote: »

There wasn't even the remotest chance of all 5 concerts being allowed due mainly to residents legitimate concerns as well as the long standing agreement of a max of 3 concerts a year. If they opted for 3 concerts, they would have been granted permission and everyone would have been happy.

Yep, if Brooks and the organisers hadn't got greedy, three concerts would have gone ahead. They took the michael by organising two extra dates, thinking they'd get away with it. So glad they didn't. A precedent would have been set.

bobmalooka

Captain Flaps wrote: »

Honest question, would there be enough Gombeens in the UK to fill Wembeley 10 times over? How about 5? I was led to believe that it was our boggers flooding the streets for Garth, it would surprise me to hear they're the same in the UK...

The world loves Garth. He'd easily fill it that many times.

I asked our priest to pray that Garth would hold off his world tour until CP becomes available again so we could get our revenge on the residents. It looks like our prayers are being answered.

Maireadio

beach_walker wrote: »

Given the choice I'd much rather spend a night out with a bunch of yaa-hoo, plastic stetson wearing, cowboy-boot wearing Garth fans than a room full of music snob bores.

If only there was a middle ground! Thinking Garth Brooks is dreck doesn't remotely make you a music snob.

Peppa Pig

bobmalooka wrote: »

The world loves Garth. He'd easily fill it that many times. Seems strange that he wouldn't do it then. Does he not care for his English fans?

bobmalooka wrote: »

I asked our priest to pray that Garth would hold off his world tour until CP becomes available again so we could get our revenge on the residents. It looks like our prayers are being answered.

I'm inclined to believe that post is true.

bobmalooka

Peppa Pig wrote: »

I'm inclined to believe that post is true.

The only logical conclusion is that they haven't prayed hard enough for Garth.

Timberrrrrrrr

bobmalooka wrote: »

The world loves Garth. He'd easily fill it that many times.

I asked our priest to pray that Garth would hold off his world tour until CP becomes available again so we could get our revenge on the residents. It looks like our prayers are being answered.

Enjoy your 3 concerts


That you could have had 2 years ago


:rolleyes:

end of the road

Shurimgreat wrote: »

GB (and his fans) assured us its not about the money, its about putting on concerts for as many fans as possible.

So 10 concerts of 50,000 people each in somewhere like Thomand Park and/or Semple Stadium and everyone is happy. A welcome boost to the local economy for these areas, more than enough hotel rooms, Shannon Airport nearby, local councils only too willing to oblige, everyone happy.

incorrect, there wouldn't be enough accommodation outside dublin to meet the huge demand

Maireadio wrote: »

Yep, if Brooks and the organisers hadn't got greedy, three concerts would have gone ahead. They took the michael by organising two extra dates, thinking they'd get away with it. So glad they didn't. A precedent would have been set.

incorrect. nobody got greedy. they simply added dates due to the huge demand and nothing more. they didn't take the mick, nor did they think they would get away with anything as there was nothing to get away with as they did nothing wrong. no precedent would have been set had all 5 concerts gone ahead.

bobmalooka

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Enjoy your 3 concerts


That you could have had 2 years ago


:rolleyes:

If there's only 3 I'll bet there'll be a minimum of 5 nights disruption for the residents.

Timberrrrrrrr

bobmalooka wrote: »

If there's only 3 I'll bet there'll be a minimum of 5 nights disruption for the residents.

And if there was 5 concerts there would be 7 or 8 nights disruption, Thankfully GB had his hissy fit and it didn't matter one iota.

bobmalooka

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And if there was 5 concerts there would be 7 or 8 nights disruption, Thankfully GB had his hissy fit and it didn't matter one iota.

Garth didn't have a hissy fit. Like the main man JC he treats all the flock equally.

As his disciples it is our duty to ensure those that have done wrong are punished. In this case I suspect revenge will be a dish best served warm and steaming

John_Rambo

The Raptor wrote: »

All i said was why can't you act like an animal if they're going to call you one anyway? They're carry on was despicable and they used any excuse to heighten their claims. I don't like being labeled as an incontinent animal vomiting and pissing over peoples property, when i was going for the music and the music alone.

But you bemoaned the fact that you weren't allowed to do just this! So, you're intentions are obvious. You admitted you wanted to defecate and urinate on peoples property! Titzon toast said: GB fans in the original thread were threatening to shíte in people's gardens, píss in their letterboxes, and kick the wing mirrors off their cars if the gigs were cancelled.

Lormal quoted him and said:

It was like a home from home for them

You quoted him and said:

It's a pity they wouldn't let us.

You said on this thread that it's a pity they wouldn't let us ****e in peoples gardins and pIss in they're letterboxes!

The Raptor wrote: »

John_Rambo is one.

Push him for an answer on what he thinks of his own neighbours and their exaggerated claims and tells me he knows nothing about it and goes on to say i'm a filthy animal.

I'm delighted that croke park had toilets closed for the Bruce Springsteen gigs last week. I wonder where did people go. Bruce fans at that.

I never called you one name. I certainly don't think much of what you like to do to other peoples property, but I didn't call you anything! The person that came out with the animal name in this thread first was you.

The Raptor

John_Rambo wrote: »

But you bemoaned the fact that you weren't allowed to do just this! So, you're intentions are obvious. You admitted you wanted to defecate and urinate on peoples property! Titzon toast said: GB fans in the original thread were threatening to shíte in people's gardens, píss in their letterboxes, and kick the wing mirrors off their cars if the gigs were cancelled.

Lormal quoted him and said:

It was like a home from home for them

You quoted him and said:

It's a pity they wouldn't let us.

You said on this thread that it's a pity they wouldn't let us ****e in peoples gardins and pIss in they're letterboxes!



I never called you one name. I certainly don't think much of what you like to do to other peoples property, but I didn't call you anything! The person that came out with the animal name in this thread first was you.

I took that post 'like a home from home' as sarcasm from the poster.

I was replying back in the same tone to that poster.

So quit twisting my words. Its not the first time on this thread. 'Its a sports venue', and when i replied back that it was a sports and concert venue you tried to make out that im still crying over 5 concerts.

But that's what the residents of CP does best, twist everything.

Edit: Rather than tell me what you think of me doing my business at concerts that never happened. What about telling me what you think of your neighbour's behaviour with fake submissions of disabled people and dead people?

John_Rambo

LorMal wrote: »

It was like a home from home for them

The Raptor wrote: »

I took that post 'like a home from home' as sarcasm from the poster.

I was replying back in the same tone to that poster.

So quit twisting my words. Its not the first time on this thread. 'Its a sports venue', and when i replied back that it was a sports and concert venue you tried to make out that im still crying over 5 concerts.

But that's what the residents of CP does best, twist everything.

You are!

The Raptor

John_Rambo wrote: »

You are!

I'm delighted they got cancelled. I got the best holiday of a lifetime out of it. You see, I'm not bitter and stay at home crying until he comes back unlike the residents because they bought a house beside a stadium and doesn't want it used.

John_Rambo

The Raptor wrote: »

I'm delighted they got cancelled.

Good for you and the residents!

rubadub

The Raptor wrote: »

I'm delighted that croke park had toilets closed for the Bruce Springsteen gigs last week. I wonder where did people go. Bruce fans at that.

Jaysus, you would think you would quit while behind and stop making yourself out to reveling in others misery, severe case of schadenfreude, nasty piece of work.

I expect people were pissing in gardens, like they seemingly do at all major events at croke park, hence the predicitons at garth, which lead to the pathetic twisted lies. This will only cause further complaints from residents, gardai, council workers etc. And less likelihood for the likes of them to go ahead anywhere in the country. The springsteen gig was Aiken too, lots of reports of crap sound at it, wonder if Aiken was skimping on technicians and sound equipment and wonder if the money hungry prick in charge had a say in the closure of the toilets, probably saved a few bob.

Peppa Pig

The Raptor wrote: »

I'm delighted they got cancelled. I got the best holiday of a lifetime out of it. You see, I'm not bitter and stay at home crying until he comes back unlike the residents because they bought a house beside a stadium and doesn't want it used.

You do know that a lot of the houses predate the stadium and most of them predate the granting of the upgrade in 1993? The stadium only got permission for 3 "non sporting events" in that planning application. "Old" Croke Park could never have hosted anywhere near 80,000 in one go.

With the trucks rolling in to get the stage built, the nights of the concerts and the time taken to remove the stage, it was going to be about 20 days of disruption, not 3 or 5.

Maireadio

end of the road wrote: »

incorrect. nobody got greedy. they simply added dates due to the huge demand and nothing more. they didn't take the mick, nor did they think they would get away with anything as there was nothing to get away with as they did nothing wrong. no precedent would have been set had all 5 concerts gone ahead.

LOLLERS.

end of the road

Weepsie wrote: »

They added dates they never had the rights or licences for. They tried playing a fast one.

they didn't try or even pull any fast one. alll of the dates were subject to licence and hadn't been given the go ahead. they sold tickets which is perfectly legal to do. so, nothing wrong was done at all by the promotor/organisers/gb.

Peppa Pig wrote: »

You do know that a lot of the houses predate the stadium and most of them predate the granting of the upgrade in 1993? The stadium only got permission for 3 "non sporting events" in that planning application. "Old" Croke Park could never have hosted anywhere near 80,000 in one go.

With the trucks rolling in to get the stage built, the nights of the concerts and the time taken to remove the stage, it was going to be about 20 days of disruption, not 3 or 5.

that's not correct. the stage and sound checks would have taken a day to 2 days, the removal a day.

The Raptor

Peppa Pig wrote: »

You do know that a lot of the houses predate the stadium and most of them predate the granting of the upgrade in 1993? The stadium only got permission for 3 "non sporting events" in that planning application. "Old" Croke Park could never have hosted anywhere near 80,000 in one go.

With the trucks rolling in to get the stage built, the nights of the concerts and the time taken to remove the stage, it was going to be about 20 days of disruption, not 3 or 5.

And what has this got to do with my reply?

Why are the residents complaining about the stadium after it was built?

You forgot to mention 44hours of no sleep as well as the disruption but they can get the energy to stand out in the summer heat to hold placards in 2009.

bobmalooka

end of the road wrote: »

they didn't try or even pull any fast one. alll of the dates were subject to licence and hadn't been given the go ahead. they sold tickets which is perfectly legal to do. so, nothing wrong was done at all by the promotor/organisers/gb.

As one poster would say "Incorrect"

If I was the type of person to edit another's post I would add in Owen Keegan to the list of those who done no wrong

bobmalooka

The Raptor wrote: »

And what has this got to do with my reply?

Why are the residents complaining about the stadium after it was built?

You forgot to mention 44hours of no sleep as well as the disruption but they can get the energy to stand out in the summer heat to hold placards in 2009.

Have you got round to finding the claims I made that you think can't be backed up?

The residents are complaining due to their claims the stadium is overused - you know this. Any idea why Garh fans are still complaining about him abandoning 240,000 disciples?

John_Rambo

The Raptor wrote: »

And what has this got to do with my reply?

Why are the residents complaining about the stadium after it was built?

You forgot to mention 44hours of no sleep as well as the disruption but they can get the energy to stand out in the summer heat to hold placards in 2009.

The blistering burning heat.

Shurimgreat

end of the road wrote: »

incorrect, there wouldn't be enough accommodation outside dublin to meet the huge demand

So you'd have to drive home from Limerick or Thurles to Monaghan or Cavan or whatever border county Gareth is "huge" in. Would this be the end of the world?

Are Gareth fans willing to compromise at all on anything? It doesn't seem like it. Everyone has to dance to their tune and if they don't, they are subjected to extreme pressure and emotional blackmail.

I just wonder would you like 5 concerts in your backyard of a band or singer who you can't stand? Would you be ok with that? Put yourself in the residents shoes just once.

Shurimgreat

end of the road wrote: »

they didn't try or even pull any fast one. alll of the dates were subject to licence and hadn't been given the go ahead. they sold tickets which is perfectly legal to do. so, nothing wrong was done at all by the promotor/organisers/gb.

Everything was done wrong by them. They sent people up the garden path, promising punters something they knew there was a good chance couldn't be delivered. It was stupid and naïve. They did it a*seways.

end of the road

Shurimgreat wrote: »

So you'd have to drive home from Limerick or Thurles to Monaghan or Cavan or whatever border county Gareth is "huge" in. Would this be the end of the world?

yes absolutely. do you know how long that journey would take? rather a long time. much easier to travel to dublin.

Shurimgreat wrote: »

I just wonder would you like 5 concerts in your backyard of a band or singer who you can't stand? Would you be ok with that? Put yourself in the residents shoes just once.

if i bought a house beside or near a venue that is used for entertainment, then that's just tough.

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Everything was done wrong by them. They sent people up the garden path, promising punters something they knew there was a good chance couldn't be delivered. It was stupid and naïve. They did it a*seways.

they did nothing wrong. every concert is sold subject to licence, so in effect they are always promising something there is a good chance they may not deliver.

PTH2009

Unless there having meetings in the background (Aiken and Garth's management) there's no concrete evidence the shows are happening in 2017

Maybe Garth's show in the Yankee stadium in July is too get ready for the big Croker show next year ??

On his last world tour (1996-1998) he only ventured outside of the US and Canada to play Dublin and Belfast. He really is not that big in Europe apart from here ?

beach_walker

Maireadio wrote: »

If only there was a middle ground! Thinking Garth Brooks is dreck doesn't remotely make you a music snob.

Correct. Saying that everyone who likes his stuff doesn't really like music does make one a snob though.

bobmalooka

end of the road wrote: »

yes absolutely. do you know how long that journey would take? rather a long time. much easier to travel to dublin.



if i bought a house beside or near a venue that is used for entertainment, then that's just tough.



they did nothing wrong. every concert is sold subject to licence, so in effect they are always promising something there is a good chance they may not deliver.

1) agreed, Dublin makes sense as a location for a number of reasons - there are negatives however, venues on the doorstep of a high volume of residents being the major one. It's up to organisers to balance the needs of ALL the stakeholders.

The proposed GB concerts were weighted too heavily against the needs of residents. Maybe there is merit in having the promoters organise transport to/from a less congested venue if they want a heavier volume of events.

2) the opposite is equally true, building a venue in a residential area will lead to tough luck scenarios for the venue owner too. Chicken and egg over who should have preference - the net result will be compromise.

3) I'm glad you now recognise that there was a good chance they couldn't deliver the concerts

bobmalooka

beach_walker wrote: »

Correct. Saying that everyone who likes his stuff doesn't really like music does make one a snob though.

Debating the quality of music adds nothing to the debate really.

The correct answer is that Garth is second only to JC in terms of genius, anyone who doesn't recognise that has probably been consigned to an eternity in hell and there's little point in discussing music with those lowlifes.

Timberrrrrrrr

bobmalooka wrote: »

Debating the quality of music adds nothing to the debate really.

The correct answer is that Garth is second only to JC in terms of genius, anyone who doesn't recognise that has probably been consigned to an eternity in hell and there's little point in discussing music with those lowlifes.

Garth's talent is just like JC


Doesn't exist.

rubadub

end of the road wrote: »

every concert is sold subject to licence, so in effect they are always promising something there is a good chance they may not deliver.

a good chance? I go to a fair few gigs and none have ever been cancelled due to licencing/permission issues. By saying a good chance you are making out like many do not go ahead, can you list some of these? and I am obviously not talking about bands being sick or weather, or not getting enough sales etc, about events being cancelled due to the likes of residents issues.

There was definitely going to be complaints about the garth gigs, I already posted links to the residents complaints about U2, and he was going for way more in the same year.
I said it was the equivalent in extra concerts to having 7 gigs in slane in one year. That would also have a "good chance" of not being delivered -and this is why most reasonable promotors would not even chance something like that, and why most performers would also not chance their arm like that and risk disappointing fans and getting a bad name for themselves, which both brooks and aiken most certainly got.

The dogs on the street knew about the agreement and to expect complaints. One excuse I heard given was that garth would not make a profit if he only played 3 of the 5 gigs, that he had supposedly spent a fortune on production. I do not believe this, but if it is true it just shows how stupid they were. There were obviously going to be complaints, he would have been lucky to get 3 so should have planned for only getting 1 or 2 allowed, and factored in the stage costings around that.

bobmalooka

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Garth's talent is just like JC


Doesn't exist.

Lies make baby Garth/Jesus cry

Why would you make a baby cry?

Further evidence that those opposing our saviour Garth are monsters

Jack Killian

end of the road wrote: »

yes absolutely. do you know how long that journey would take? rather a long time. much easier to travel to dublin.

So you're not that much of a fan then ? You'll only go see him if it's easy ?

if i bought a house beside or near a venue that is used for entertainment, then that's just tough.

If you bought a house beside a venue that had an agreement to be used 3 times a year, and someone tried to use it almost three times that, I suspect you'd be screaming to high heaven.

Maybe you should buy one of those houses ? It'd be very easy to see Garth then - just cross the road. Hell, better than that you'd even be able to hear him 5 nights in a row while trying to watch the News.

they did nothing wrong. every concert is sold subject to licence, so in effect they are always promising something there is a good chance they may not deliver.

Incorrect. There is always a good chance that they will be delivered. Unless, that is, the agreement says that there can only be 3 concerts and they try to book the 4th to 8th concerts.

Mind you, whatever about them not running the 5 extra, they should have been sued to high heaven when they got the licence for the 3 extra and refused to run them. People were badly put out having booked accommodation and babysitters and all sorts of peripheral arrangements, and it wasn't covered by "subject to licence" because the licence for the 3 had been granted.

Timberrrrrrrr

Jack Killian wrote: »

So you're not that much of a fan then ? You'll only go see him if it's easy ?

Oh no no no

Do you not remember the last thread? After arguing for MANY months it turned out that EOTR didn't even have a ticket and never even intended to go to the concerts!

That's why I don't even bother feeding it anymore

Jack Killian

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Oh no no no

Do you not remember the last thread? After arguing for MANY months it turned out that EOTR didn't even have a ticket and never even intended to go to the concerts!

That's why I don't even bother feeding it anymore

Wasn't around then - cheers for the heads-up!

Broken Hearted Road

PTH2009 wrote: »

Unless there having meetings in the background (Aiken and Garth's management) there's no concrete evidence the shows are happening in 2017

Maybe Garth's show in the Yankee stadium in July is too get ready for the big Croker show next year ??

On his last world tour (1996-1998) he only ventured outside of the US and Canada to play Dublin and Belfast. He really is not that big in Europe apart from here ?

I reckon there were plans taking shape for 2017 but perhaps GB was apprehensive about coming back to Ireland and waiting to see how Bruce Springsteen at Croke Park would pan out.

If Croke Park doesn't overbook the stadium next year, there is no reason in the world why he can't get 2/3 dates in Croke Park next year.

In his 90's tour, he wanted to play in other parts of Europe and Australia too but his wife put a stop tobit because he was cheating and he was only allowed to go to Belfast for 1998. He wanted to get to other parts but couldn't.

I reckon there is a European fanbase somewhat but it's just not large enough. I'd say he could have trouble filling a small theatre in mainland Europe especially considering he took such a large break from music. He probably wouldn't known in mainland Europe. Any European fans, if they haven't traveled to the States already to see him in concert will have to consider Ireland or the UK, where ever he ends up playing on this side of the world if they want to see him in concert.

Jack Killian

Broken Hearted Road wrote: »

I reckon there were plans taking shape for 2017 but perhaps GB was apprehensive about coming back to Ireland and waiting to see how Bruce Springsteen at Croke Park would pan out.

If Croke Park doesn't overbook the stadium next year, there is no reason in the world why he can't get 2/3 dates in Croke Park next year.

In his 90's tour, he wanted to play in other parts of Europe and Australia too but his wife put a stop tobit because he was cheating and he was only allowed to go to Belfast for 1998. He wanted to get to other parts but couldn't.

I reckon there is a European fanbase somewhat but it's just not large enough. I'd say he could have trouble filling a small theatre in mainland Europe especially considering he took such a large break from music. He probably wouldn't known in mainland Europe. Any European fans, if they haven't traveled to the States already to see him in concert will have to consider Ireland or the UK, where ever he ends up playing on this side of the world if they want to see him in concert.

I'd reckon a lot of fans wouldn't bother, based on being shafted last time out (especially those who had tickets to the "granted" concerts) and the risk of him repeating the fiasco if he didn't get his own way on something.

end of the road

rubadub wrote: »

a good chance? I go to a fair few gigs and none have ever been cancelled due to licencing/permission issues. By saying a good chance you are making out like many do not go ahead, can you list some of these? and I am obviously not talking about bands being sick or weather, or not getting enough sales etc, about events being cancelled due to the likes of residents issues.

There was definitely going to be complaints about the garth gigs, I already posted links to the residents complaints about U2, and he was going for way more in the same year.
I said it was the equivalent in extra concerts to having 7 gigs in slane in one year. That would also have a "good chance" of not being delivered -and this is why most reasonable promotors would not even chance something like that, and why most performers would also not chance their arm like that and risk disappointing fans and getting a bad name for themselves, which both brooks and aiken most certainly got.

The dogs on the street knew about the agreement and to expect complaints. One excuse I heard given was that garth would not make a profit if he only played 3 of the 5 gigs, that he had supposedly spent a fortune on production. I do not believe this, but if it is true it just shows how stupid they were. There were obviously going to be complaints, he would have been lucky to get 3 so should have planned for only getting 1 or 2 allowed, and factored in the stage costings around that.

brooks and aiken were not at fault here, they did nothing wrong. the agreement was only an agreement and was effectively verbal and not set in stone.

Jack Killian wrote: »

So you're not that much of a fan then ? You'll only go see him if it's easy ?




If you bought a house beside a venue that had an agreement to be used 3 times a year, and someone tried to use it almost three times that, I suspect you'd be screaming to high heaven.

Maybe you should buy one of those houses ? It'd be very easy to see Garth then - just cross the road. Hell, better than that you'd even be able to hear him 5 nights in a row while trying to watch the News.



Incorrect. There is always a good chance that they will be delivered. Unless, that is, the agreement says that there can only be 3 concerts and they try to book the 4th to 8th concerts.

Mind you, whatever about them not running the 5 extra, they should have been sued to high heaven when they got the licence for the 3 extra and refused to run them. People were badly put out having booked accommodation and babysitters and all sorts of peripheral arrangements, and it wasn't covered by "subject to licence" because the licence for the 3 had been granted.

1. i'm not a gb fan i don't like his music.
2. if i bought a house beside a venue that had an agreement to be used 3 times a year, and someone tried to use it almost three times that, i wouldn't be bothered as that is what it is there for. i may even benefit from it in some way.
3. the agreement was only effectively a verbal agreement and isn't set in stone. what the agreement does say is that there can be 3 concerts without having to re-apply for licences. so, gb aken and croke park were within the law.

rubadub

end of the road wrote: »

brooks and aiken were not at fault here, they did nothing wrong. the agreement was only an agreement and was effectively verbal and not set in stone.

Yep, not set in stone, just like slanes is not set in stone, but if I hear of 7 gigs announced for slane I will be surprised any promotor & act would attempt such a thing, just as I was very surprised brooks & aiken did. And I guess people like yourself would similarly say "they did nothing wrong by attempting to get 7 gigs in slane, they are not chancers, its perfectly legal to do it, all gigs happen like this", most would disagree, not about the legal side, its not some courtroom with some sleazy lawyer trying to defend actions on technicalities, the dogs on the street knew they were total chancers and very likely to cause disappointment to fans -as complaints were 99.99999% guaranteed.

I cannot think of any other gig where I had my doubts it would go ahead, that is the difference here. Can you answer my previous question-

By saying a good chance you are making out like many do not go ahead, can you list some of these? and I am obviously not talking about bands being sick or weather, or not getting enough sales etc, about events being cancelled due to the likes of residents issues.

Jack Killian

end of the road wrote: »

brooks and aiken were not at fault here, they did nothing wrong. the agreement was only an agreement and was effectively verbal and not set in stone.

So what is an "agreement" in your eyes ? My definition would be "something agreed between two parties" ?

So "the agreement was only an agreement" is seriously weird phrasing.

In addition, they should have requested a new agreement (verbal or otherwise) BEFORE selling any tickets for the unagreed concerts.

The bullcrap that it was only last-minute due to demand was laughable when the excuse came out that he had "spent a fortune designing a stage for CP that "wasn't viable for 3 concerts" - when did he do that ? Overnight at the weekend when the extras "suddenly" went on sale ?

2. if i bought a house beside a venue that had an agreement to be used 3 times a year, and someone tried to use it almost three times that, i wouldn't be bothered as that is what it is there for. I may even benefit from it in some way.

No. It's there for sports. The concerts are not "what it is there for"; hence the fact that they don't need to apply for licences for matches - the events that it is there for.

Broken Hearted Road

Jack Killian wrote: »

I'd reckon a lot of fans wouldn't bother, based on being shafted last time out (especially those who had tickets to the "granted" concerts) and the risk of him repeating the fiasco if he didn't get his own way on something.

That's what happened in the mid 00's with I think maybe emenim (spelling?), something happened with Slane and there was a no show or something and many people came away swearing they wouldn't go and see him again but sure enough he came back to Ireland and played elsewhere and had no problem selling out a gig maybe two.

I don't feel shafted at all by GB or Aiken promotions. I had tickets for all 5 nights. I was disappointed with the way things turned out but what's the point in carrying around that disappointment? The only way is moving on in a positive manner. It opened my doors to something more great and I travelled the world to go see him last year and that was just epic. I was more disappointed with Dublin. It's a capital city and you're going to find events happening there from time to time and if people have a problem with events held in the capital the only place for them is in a box called a coffin.

There is still fanbase here in Ireland and he would have no problem selling two nights if not three in Croke Park. I certainly wouldn't be staying at home protesting to myself if he came back to Ireland.

Timberrrrrrrr

Broken Hearted Road wrote: »

That's what happened in the mid 00's with I think maybe emenim (spelling?), something happened with Slane and there was a no show or something and many people came away swearing they wouldn't go and see him again but sure enough he came back to Ireland and played elsewhere and had no problem selling out a gig maybe two.

I don't feel shafted at all by GB or Aiken promotions. I had tickets for all 5 nights. I was disappointed with the way things turned out but what's the point in carrying around that disappointment? The only way is moving on in a positive manner. It opened my doors to something more great and I travelled the world to go see him last year and that was just epic. I was more disappointed with Dublin. It's a capital city and you're going to find events happening there from time to time and if people have a problem with events held in the capital the only place for them is in a box called a coffin.

There is still fanbase here in Ireland and he would have no problem selling two nights if not three in Croke Park. I certainly wouldn't be staying at home protesting to myself if he came back to Ireland.

Stay classy

Jack Killian

Broken Hearted Road wrote: »

That's what happened in the mid 00's with I think maybe emenim (spelling?), something happened with Slane and there was a no show or something and many people came away swearing they wouldn't go and see him again but sure enough he came back to Ireland and played elsewhere and had no problem selling out a gig maybe two.

I don't feel shafted at all by GB or Aiken promotions. I had tickets for all 5 nights. I was disappointed with the way things turned out but what's the point in carrying around that disappointment? The only way is moving on in a positive manner. It opened my doors to something more great and I travelled the world to go see him last year and that was just epic. I was more disappointed with Dublin. It's a capital city and you're going to find events happening there from time to time and if people have a problem with events held in the capital the only place for them is in a box called a coffin.

There is still fanbase here in Ireland and he would have no problem selling two nights if not three in Croke Park. I certainly wouldn't be staying at home protesting to myself if he came back to Ireland.

My OH was going to the very first gig and bought a second ticket for me to tag along.

Having seen her disappointment when he refused to do the 3, I certainly won't be tagging along if she decides to give him a second chance.

hynesie08

Broken Hearted Road wrote: »

It opened my doors to something more great and I travelled the world to go see him last year and that was just epic.

How do you "travel the world" to see someone who only plays in one country?

Boom_Bap

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

That's why I don't even bother feeding it anymore

MOD - There is no need for comments like this, please discuss the topic, not the poster.

Cathy.C

rubadub wrote: »

..if I hear of 7 gigs announced for slane I will be surprised any promotor & act would attempt such a thing, just as I was very surprised brooks & aiken did.

Itt would never be allowed to get to the stage, where gigs are announced for Slane, where tickets are sold and then three weeks before the concerts are to take place, the plug gets pulled. It's about communication. Aiken and Croke Park communicated non-stop with DCC. Owen Keegan is on record as saying he felt there was a chance they would be granting all five licences. This backs up both Croke Park and Peter Aiken's statements that they were never given an indication that any of the licences would not be granted.

.. the dogs on the street knew they were total chancers and very likely to cause disappointment to fans -as complaints were 99.99999% guaranteed.

Again DCC supported the applications as they felt that the concerns of residents could be mitigated. Do you not realise this? The DCC should not have done this. They are at fault. They behaved in a contemptible and unprofessional manner. It's crystal clear that they had ever intention of giving all five licences from the get go. There is no way they would have let it get as far as it did otherwise. The day the phone call was made refusing to licence two concerts and then suggesting they would only refuse one if Brooks would guarantee to do them was the very next day after the court injunction was all over the headlines of the papers. That is not coincidental. Had that not happened, I do not believe for a second that there would have been an issue. It was about saving face. In fact, this was put to Keegan at the hearings and he said something along the lines of 'Well, if you refuse one concert, at least then you'd have something to show for the residents'. The person questioning him then beautifully replied 'Oh so if they had wanted six concerts you'd have been happy to give them five then?'.

The Raptor

Shurimgreat wrote: »

I just wonder would you like 5 concerts in your backyard of a band or singer who you can't stand?

Thought it was about other issues with them. But glad to hear that it was about the type of music.