The Second Coming - Garth on his way, again, possibly, 2017

NIMAN

I haven't read any of this thread, too long, but laughable now that Brooks is looking to come back and do some gigs, considering the big wain was given permission to do 3 the last time but threw his rattle out of the pram, screaming "its 5 or nothing".

Funny how 3 will do him this time, eh!

chancer.

Timberrrrrrrr

end of the road wrote: »

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dublin needs more money, and events bring in money into the local economy. there is room for huge amounts of events for everyone. but promotors have to put on events in the places that will bring the best return for investment

Ig there are protests will you again be calling for the riot squad to baton charge women and children to ensure trucks get through?

Grid.

The nightmare continues......:rolleyes:

The Raptor

hynesie08 wrote: »

So people aren't pissing in their gardens, puking everywhere and it's ONLY about the bar????

Even you can't believe that.

How can you say their claims aren't over exaggerated?

They normally get 30 objections but this time round, they get 370. Bogus objections at that. What's their motive? They will use any excuse to get to get to them.

suicide_circus

Blame it all on my roots....

Riesen_Meal

Snowfire wrote: »

It was hilarious to see all the t shirt traders around croker, at the Springsteen gig last weekend, trying to get rid of all the cowboy hats that were clearly intended for the brooks gigs last year. And no one buying them.

Cowboy hats - a staple of Irish concerts for fat birds "up for the day" from Kilkenny/random bog town

Id say some lad around Ballybough has 6 wardrobes full of them as a failed investment from the previous Garth saga...

pgj2015

end of the road wrote: »

a

dublin needs more money, and events bring in money into the local economy. there is room for huge amounts of events for everyone. but promotors have to put on events in the places that will bring the best return for investment

More like rural areas need more money, the concerts should be held in different rural areas across the country if they are to happen,one in each of the 4 provinces maybe, dublin gets enough. not that im a fan of his at all but why not spread the concerts out, have them in large estates in the country away from residents, that way residents won't be complaining and everyone that wants to go see the guy can.

diomed

The zombie apocalypse, but with culchies.

RayCon

pgj2015 wrote: »

More like rural areas need more money, the concerts should be held in different rural areas across the country if they are to happen,one in each of the 4 provinces maybe, dublin gets enough. not that im a fan of his at all but why not spread the concerts out, have them in large estates in the country away from residents, that way residents won't be complaining and everyone that wants to go see the guy can.

Logistics + Costs.

end of the road

pgj2015 wrote: »

More like rural areas need more money, the concerts should be held in different rural areas across the country if they are to happen,one in each of the 4 provinces maybe, dublin gets enough. not that im a fan of his at all but why not spread the concerts out, have them in large estates in the country away from residents, that way residents won't be complaining and everyone that wants to go see the guy can.

well that's for the promotor to make a business decisian on. it may not be financially viable.

PTH2009

Taking place 26/27/28 May 2017 with tickets going on sale before Xmas is my guess ???

He should do a 2013 Bruce Irish type tour

Play Limerick (they big love in he had with Limerick due to a ticket dispute), Belfast, Kilkenny and Dublin

Cathy.C

John_Rambo wrote: »

Silly post. Greed was the reason for five nights, everyone knows this. Just because there's less people, doesn't mean they can be bullied.

Greed had zero to do with it.

In fact Brooks is the only recording artist I think of who has lost millions upon millions out of sheer stubbornness (doesn't believe people should be able to buy single songs). He has put his money where his mouth is time and time again. He fights for artists to get paid more by YouTube and Itunes (which he boycotted for years) in an effort to see that up and coming artists can make a living from those platforms.

If that doesn't convince you (and I doubt that it would) look at how he has insisted that all tickets for his shows be set at as low a price as possible. I believe the most expensive tickets for the Croke Park shows were €79 (average being around €65?). In the states it's even lower and many shows have one set low price for all tickets. Compare that to the recent Springsteen gigs were our seats costs us a whopping €137 each. Standing was €105.

You can call the man many things, but greedy is not one of them.

Well, not if accuracy is something you are at all interested in at least.

Broken Hearted Road

I would love to see Croke Park locals standing in court in front of a judge complaining about their issues about living beside a stadium in use. They won't get very far with their wishy washy complaints.

This came about yesterday:


http://www.thejournal.ie/summer-concerts-alcohol-2801032-Jun2016/

Some people in south Dublin went to court to complain about summer time gigs that happen in a park local to them and trying to ban the sell of alcohol at the gigs.

The judge literally told them to go fcuk themselves and rightly so.

Shurimgreat

Cathy.C wrote: »

Greed had zero to do with it.

In fact Brooks is the only recording artist I think of who has lost millions upon millions out of sheer stubbornness (doesn't believe people should be able to buy single songs). He has put his money where his mouth is time and time again. He fights for artists to get paid more by YouTube and Itunes (which he boycotted for years) in an effort to see that up and coming artists can make a living from those platforms.

If that doesn't convince you (and I doubt that it would) look at how he has insisted that all tickets for his shows be set at as low a price as possible. I believe the most expensive tickets for the Croke Park shows were €79 (average being around €65?). In the states it's even lower and many shows have one set low price for all tickets. Compare that to the recent Springsteen gigs were our seats costs us a whopping €137 each. Standing was €105.

You can call the man many things, but greedy is not one of them.

Well, not if accuracy is something you are at all interested in at least.

Maybe not greedy, but certainly arrogant. He tried to ride roughshod over the laws of this country and the rights of local Croke Park residents who he didn't give a damn about. The guy showed very little class or humility. It was a case of my way or the highway. Luckily we told him to take the highway.

He's welcome back if he obeys the laws and shows some respect.

Captain Flaps

Recently moved to Phibsboro area and getting around last Friday evening was an absolute nightmare with the Springsteen gigs, I have a newfound appreciation for the residents' viewpoint. Since 1985 there have been 36 nights where a concert was held, with a max of 3 per year. I can imagine buying a place in the area and thinking 'ah, I can handle that', and I'm sure many residents have been there since before 1985.

5 consecutive nights of even what I was dealing with last friday would be hard to take, and I wasn't even that close to croker. What they're dealing with would be intolerable.

Cork2015! wrote: »

he is my favourite musician ever

Oh dear :rolleyes:

end of the road

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Maybe not greedy, but certainly arrogant. He tried to ride roughshod over the laws of this country and the rights of local Croke Park residents who he didn't give a damn about. The guy showed very little class or humility. It was a case of my way or the highway. Luckily we told him to take the highway.

He's welcome back if he obeys the laws and shows some respect.

no he didn't. everything by him and the promotor was done within the rules. he obeyed the laws and showed respect. you didn't get the compo like you wanted, get over it.

Broken Hearted Road

Captain Flaps wrote: »

Recently moved to Phibsboro area and getting around last Friday evening was an absolute nightmare with the Springsteen gigs, I have a newfound appreciation for the residents' viewpoint. Since 1985 there have been 36 nights where a concert was held, with a max of 3 per year. I can imagine buying a place in the area and thinking 'ah, I can handle that', and I'm sure many residents have been there since before 1985.

5 consecutive nights of even what I was dealing with last friday would be hard to take, and I wasn't even that close to croker. What they're dealing with would be intolerable.



Oh dear :rolleyes:

Did you see the stadium before you recently moved into the Phibsboro area?

end of the road

Captain Flaps wrote: »

Recently moved to Phibsboro area and getting around last Friday evening was an absolute nightmare with the Springsteen gigs, I have a newfound appreciation for the residents' viewpoint. Since 1985 there have been 36 nights where a concert was held, with a max of 3 per year. I can imagine buying a place in the area and thinking 'ah, I can handle that', and I'm sure many residents have been there since before 1985.

5 consecutive nights of even what I was dealing with last friday would be hard to take, and I wasn't even that close to croker. What they're dealing with would be intolerable.

that's just tough though. it can be avoided by not buying near a venue.

hynesie08

Broken Hearted Road wrote: »

Captain Flaps wrote: »

Recently moved to Phibsboro area and getting around last Friday evening was an absolute nightmare with the Springsteen gigs, I have a newfound appreciation for the residents' viewpoint. Since 1985 there have been 36 nights where a concert was held, with a max of 3 per year. I can imagine buying a place in the area and thinking 'ah, I can handle that', and I'm sure many residents have been there since before 1985.

5 consecutive nights of even what I was dealing with last friday would be hard to take, and I wasn't even that close to croker. What they're dealing with would be intolerable.



Oh dear :rolleyes:

Did you see the stadium before you recently moved into the Phibsboro area?

Do you know where phibsboro is in relation to croke park? It's not that close.

Muahahaha

Captain Flaps wrote: »

Recently moved to Phibsboro area and getting around last Friday evening was an absolute nightmare with the Springsteen gigs, I have a newfound appreciation for the residents' viewpoint. Since 1985 there have been 36 nights where a concert was held, with a max of 3 per year. I can imagine buying a place in the area and thinking 'ah, I can handle that', and I'm sure many residents have been there since before 1985.

5 consecutive nights of even what I was dealing with last friday would be hard to take, and I wasn't even that close to croker. What they're dealing with would be intolerable.

If you think Phibsboro is bad Drumcondra tops that altogether. Residents of Clonliffe Road cannot get in or out of their road for hours on end.

Another thing people forget is the change in the GAA All-Ireland structures. They introduced back doors and then back doors into other back doors. All of which means Croker has more than double the games per year than it used to. Its very easy for people behind keyboards to say 'tough' but for those living there it is actually a pain in the hole.

Anyway I think most people agree that 3 concerts per year is reasonable. If GB or anyone else wants to do five then do another couple down the country. Galway, Cork and Limerick would all welcome these gigs and it would spread the money around a bit more.

bobmalooka

end of the road wrote: »

that's just tough though. it can be avoided by not buying near a venue.

Or by the venue sticking to its planning permission

beach_walker

Muahahaha wrote: »

Another thing people forget is the change in the GAA All-Ireland structures. They introduced back doors and then back doors into other back doors. All of which means Croker has more than double the games per year than it used to. Its very easy for people behind keyboards to say 'tough' but for those living there it is actually a pain in the hole.

True but tbh it's worth pointing out that the football backdoor system has been in place for 15 years (I'm getting old :eek: ), and the hurling even longer. Nothing new really.

Cathy.C

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Maybe not greedy, but certainly arrogant. He tried to ride roughshod over the laws of this country and the rights of local Croke Park residents who he didn't give a damn about. The guy showed very little class or humility. It was a case of my way or the highway. Luckily we told him to take the highway.

He's welcome back if he obeys the laws and shows some respect.

Ha. This is naive in the extreme. Aiken, Croke Park and Brooks did obey the laws.

Name one that they didn't please.

The fact that the system has now been changed so that tickets can no longer be sold before pre-application consultations, that the licence application deadline has changed and that local authorities have to say ya or nay earlier than before shows that they clearly acknowledge that the system is what was at fault, not those using it.

As Brooks said at the time, the logical thing to do was to let the concerts go ahead and then address the issues which had led to it happening to ensure that similar never occurs again. Only in Ireland would the realization that a flawed system has allowed this kind of debacle to unfold, then result in a council deciding that the best way to handle it was to cancel concerts which 160,000 people were to attend less than three weeks later and of course, which hotels, flights etc had been booked for. To have inconvenienced that many people (along also with hotel staff, B&Bs etc) just so that some legitimate promises to some local residents gets achieved, so late on in the day, was absurd.

bobmalooka

Cathy.C wrote: »

Ha. This is naive in the extreme. Aiken, Croke Park and Brooks did obey the laws.

Name one that they didn't please.

The fact that the system has now been changed so that tickets can no longer be sold before pre-application consultations, that the licence application deadline has changed and that local authorities have to say ya or nay earlier than before shows that they clearly acknowledge that the system is what was at fault, not those using it.

As Brooks said at the time, the logical thing to do was to let the concerts go ahead and then address the issues which had led to it happening to ensure that similar never occurs again. Only in Ireland would the realization that a flawed system has allowed this kind of debacle to unfold, then result in a council deciding that the best way to handle it was to cancel concerts which 160,000 people were to attend less than three weeks later and of course, which hotels, flights etc had been booked for. To have inconvenienced that many people (along also with hotel staff, B&Bs etc) just so that some legitimate promises to some local residents gets achieved, so late on in the day, was absurd.

Or you know, abide by the current planning permission in place since 1993 until you have confirmation to do otherwise

Skylinehead

Broken Hearted Road wrote: »

The judge literally told them to go fcuk themselves and rightly so.

I wish I could ban people for using literally like this


He literally did not tell them that.

Captain Flaps

Phibsboro isn't that close, and I certainly don't care enough to complain about a gig I'm not going to. I'm sure the Marley residents feel the same about Longitude etc, it's just an inconvenience for me that doesn't bother me in the slightest (especially since I'm renting).

I was just pointing out that I can appreciate if the city was shut down that far out I can only imagine what it would be like dealing with 5 nights of it on the trot closer by, so I think the 'moaning' accusations are a bit unfair.

osarusan

Skylinehead wrote: »

I wish I could ban people for using literally like this


He literally did not tell them that.

It would be pretty cool if he had literally done it though.

'Your honour, I hereby request that in accordance with section 2.8 of the blah blah blah...'

'Go fu*k yourself.'

BuilderPlumber

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

They are on newstalk comparing this redneck to Bruce !!

f*ck off!!

There is no way Mr Brooks can be compared to Bruce but at least Garth is better than those awful Irish ex boyband singers doing country music.

BuilderPlumber

thebaz wrote: »

agree, and I love real Country - Hank Williams, John Cash, Steve Earle - Garth Brooks is just Middle of the road ****e

I love real country. Hank Williams and Johnny Cash are two of the greatest and one can name loads of these great older singers. Modern country music has become just modern pop with a twang. Brooks is ok imo, nothing special but listenable. The stuff that came after Brooks in America is poor. The Irish boyband singers copying this modern American 'country' are the worst ever. And RTE is totally besotted with these poor types. A trip to the Eurovision for one of them would sort out RTE's obsession with them once and for all!

Broken Hearted Road

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

I love real country. Hank Williams and Johnny Cash are two of the greatest and one can name loads of these great older singers. Modern country music has become just modern pop with a twang. Brooks is ok imo, nothing special but listenable. The stuff that came after Brooks in America is poor. The Irish boyband singers copying this modern American 'country' are the worst ever. And RTE is totally besotted with these poor types. A trip to the Eurovision for one of them would sort out RTE's obsession with them once and for all!

Your hatred for Derek Ryan is not healthy and you need to get help because every second post here on boards.ie from you is about Derek Ryan. There's plenty of music I don't like but I'm not going around dishing abuse out in every second post about music and musicians I hate.

How on earth did you relate a possibly of Garth Brooks coming back to Ireland, and loads more other people rehashing events of 2014 with Derek Ryan?