Copa America 2016

tinpib

Ya, I cashed out my bet after around 10/15 minutes when it was 1:1 so emerged unscathed. Colombia were a shambles at the start, passing to the opposition, goalie was a howler waiting to happen.

I expect Brazil to play their second team tonight too.

tinpib

Could be wrong about Brazil playing their second string. If Ecuador beat Haiti as expected then they need a draw to qualify, so they may play a strong enough side.

I'll wait for the line ups to be announced, based on that I may well lump on Brazil to win at 1.44.

tinpib

Encouraging start from Brazil. Have been shouldered off the ball 3 times in the box in first 10 minutes. All were fair, sturdy challenges but they are getting in great positions. They look up for it.

CSF

Excellent advert for video technology just there....said nobody ever. Took about 5 minutes and still reached what looked like the wrong decision. Brazil in big trouble here.

Corholio

Absolutely, staggeringly shocking call from the ref to give the goal to Peru after about 5 minutes deliberating with his linesman, he stills gets it wrong. It was a good match up to then as well, Brazil the better team but Peru doing decent in defence.

CSF

Corholio wrote: »

Absolutely, staggeringly shocking call from the ref to give the goal to Peru after about 5 minutes deliberating with his linesman, he stills gets it wrong. It was a good match up to then as well, Brazil the better team but Peru doing decent in defence.

He wasn't deliberating with the linesman, they're testing a video referee.

Cypher_sounds

Happened to turn this on because i can't sleep. Some amazing scenes. Peru player scores with his arm.
Confusion over whether officals allow it or not.
Thought they were consulting a video ref for a minute but they clearly weren't as hand of god II stands! 1-0 to Peru 10mins left.

Corholio

CSF wrote: »

He wasn't deliberating with the linesman, they're testing a video referee.

Ah ya I was wondering why he was standing next to the linesman and didn't seem to be talking to each other. Appalling decision though. The headlines will be about Brazil going out but no team deserves to go out like that.

CSF

Corholio wrote: »

Ah ya I was wondering why he was standing next to the linesman and didn't seem to be talking to each other. Appalling decision though. The headlines will be about Brazil going out but no team deserves to go out like that.

Who should be stunned that video replays in football we're going to be anything but a disaster?

Not just because of the outcome being wrong, but it took an eternity to come to that decision. You had lads on here going on like it would be instantaneous.

Corholio

I've no idea how they came to that decision after watching the replays. Some of the worst officiating I've seen all round.

CSF

Corholio wrote: »

I've no idea how they came to that decision after watching the replays. Some of the worst officiating I've seen all round.

Yup, extremely blatant.

Corholio

While Dunga mightn't have been there for all that much longer anyway, he'll probably be sacked now. Cruel way to go out.

Clear Hearts

Surely Dunga has to go now, hand ball or not, Brazil playing negative football is a crime.

Mec27

US is gana win it.

eagle eye

Ricardo Gareca is a great manager, been a big fan of his for a while now. I don't think he will ever come to Europe but I'd love to see it happen.

Peru have been nowhere for years and he has them playing fantastic football. They are one of the most exciting international teams to watch play.

While Brazil have their issues you gotta give credit to Peru for that performance.

ERG89

Haven't watched much of this tournament, stunned Brazil & Uruguay are out already but maybe a sign how serious they are taking it too.
Don't know why they hired Dunga again tho, then again Argentina are managed by Tata Martino who looked absolutely clueless in his time at Barca

eagle eye

ERG89 wrote: »

Haven't watched much of this tournament, stunned Brazil & Uruguay are out already but maybe a sign how serious they are taking it too.
Don't know why they hired Dunga again tho, then again Argentina are managed by Tata Martino who looked absolutely clueless in his time at Barca

Agree on Dunga but Martino did ok at Barca. Lost the league on the last day to Atletico and lost to the same team in the QF's of the Champion's league. It wasn't a great season for him but he had only one season there and they didn't do badly.

Leroy42

CSF wrote: »

Who should be stunned that video replays in football we're going to be anything but a disaster?

Not just because of the outcome being wrong, but it took an eternity to come to that decision. You had lads on here going on like it would be instantaneous.

Totally agree. 1st time it has ever been tested in a live environment and it failed so therefore it should be consigned to the dustbin.

There is simply no case to be made for a technology that may help make the correct decision but may not over the current system. The fact that other sports seem to be able to use it is a non issue as football is so uniquely different in the world.

Or maybe, lessons can be learned from this and it can be improved!

CSF

Leroy42 wrote: »

Totally agree. 1st time it has ever been tested in a live environment and it failed so therefore it should be consigned to the dustbin.

There is simply no case to be made for a technology that may help make the correct decision but may not over the current system. The fact that other sports seem to be able to use it is a non issue as football is so uniquely different in the world.

Or maybe, lessons can be learned from this and it can be improved!

The technology takes a pretty similar amount of time in rugby. This isn't a new issue that has crept up with its use in football.

Clear Hearts

CSF wrote: »

The technology takes a pretty similar amount of time in rugby. This isn't a new issue that has crept up with its use in football.

Wait a second, did the ref have access to replay's and still award the goal

Harry Palmr

Dungaheap ditched

eagle eye

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Dungaheap ditched

Is the heap meant to be a put down?

If it is then you should cop on I think. Dunga was one of the greatest players of his generation and he did win a Copa America and Confederation's Cup as manager too.

Harry Palmr

Shocking Brazil manager.

FatherTed

CSF wrote: »

He wasn't deliberating with the linesman, they're testing a video referee.

Absolutely incorrect. There is no video referee or any kind of testing at Copa America.

Clear Hearts

Dunga getting sacked is the most shocking thing thats happened in football :P
Well its Brazil so which former manager gets another turn on the merry go round

Ulysses Gaze

Clear Hearts wrote: »

Dunga getting sacked is the most shocking thing thats happened in football :P
Well its Brazil so which former manager gets another turn on the merry go round

Will they give Luxemburgo a shot at it now?

Clear Hearts

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Will they give Luxemburgo a shot at it now?

Has Zico had a go at them yet

Ulysses Gaze

Clear Hearts wrote: »

Has Zico had a go at them yet

Wouldn't be a bad shout.

He'd try and get them playing Jogo Bonita at the very least.

Clear Hearts

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Wouldn't be a bad shout.

He'd try and get them playing Jogo Bonita at the very least.

No idea how Muricy Ramalho never got a chance at the top, I think hes disliked by the Brazil top brass, but still youd think theyd give him a shot rather than re hiring a failure

Clear Hearts

Just saw Tite has replaced him, a good step in fairness

Corholio

Tite will be a good coach I think, he'll be able to get more out of the players than Dunga did even if the style isn't all that different.

Would have liked to have seen Cuca there, would have been an off the wall choice but would have had an attacking Brazil again, although possibly maybe that extreme isn't the right choice for now.

eagle eye

Chile beat Panama 4-2, they dominated and two goals apiece for Alexis and Vargas. Their defense does look very dodgy though, Isla, Medel and Jara all look like they've regressed over the last couple of years.

InTheTrees

We went and saw Argentina beat Bolivia last night.

Competitively it was like an exhibition match. Poor old Bolivia never stood a chance. But we were sitting close to the bolivia goal for the second half so we got to watch Messi work his magic.

GreNoLi

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Will they give Luxemburgo a shot at it now?

Has to be Mario Zagallo.

wonski

Peru-Columbia. Worst game ever.

I can't believe I am still up watching it

Charlie19

wonski wrote: »

Peru-Columbia. Worst game ever.

I can't believe I am still up watching it

Switched it on just as the penalties started;)

Nice touch by the Peruvian players to meet the guy that missed the first spot kick as he walked back to the halfway line. I don't think that I've seen that before.

Tears of joy for Rodriguez in this tournament.

wonski

Charlie19 wrote: »

Switched it on just as the penalties started;)

Nice touch by the Peruvian players to meet the guy that missed the first spot kick as he walked back to the halfway line. I don't think that I've seen that before.

Tears of joy for Rodriguez in this tournament.

If there was an extra time, I wouldn't even bother watching it and would go to bed after 70 minutes...

I hope tomorrow games will be more interesting.

Charlie19

I didn't realise that it went straight to penalties, I wouldn't be a fan of that.

I think the format of two half's of 15 and then the penos is an easier way to take it, from a players point of view.

Clear Hearts

Charlie19 wrote: »

I didn't realise that it went straight to penalties, I wouldn't be a fan of that.

I think the format of two half's of 15 and then the penos is an easier way to take it, from a players point of view.

Id be a fan, if they cant do it in 90, just do penalties

paulie21

Must be sick to see the keeper not dive after doing a paneka

Charlie19

paulie21 wrote: »

Must be sick to see the keeper not dive after doing a paneka

Why would anyone attempt that when 2 goals down.

https://twitter.com/Marshmont37/status/744317172047032320

764dak

Mexico 0-7 Chile.

It was Brazil 1-7 Germany all over again.

eagle eye

Shocking result that one. Mexico looked like the only team that could possibly take on the Argies in this tournament and then that happens. Chile didn't look good at all in this tournament up to that result.

Kobe248

eagle eye wrote: »

Shocking result that one. Mexico looked like the only team that could possibly take on the Argies in this tournament and then that happens. Chile didn't look good at all in this tournament up to that result.

I honestly think USA could shock them

Argentina looked a bit shook yesterday at times and were tested by Venezuela

Saying that Messi looks about 3 levels higher than the next best player at the tournament

Mec27

What an amazing achievment if USA can get to the final(and win!) I can see it now, Klinsmann calls Pulisic from the bench to replace Bobby Wood late on, Bradley puts in a crunching tackle on James just outside the D, and sees a young Pulisic in space, it is a tired pass but Pulisic takes it brilliantly, evading the lazy challenge from Carlos Sanchez leaving him for dead. Clint 'Deuce' Dempsey is in space but Pulisic sees his name in lights, Daniel Torres tries to bring him down but he skips by him and races towards David Ospina's net. Zardes makes a clever run taking Christian Zapata with him, allowing Pulisic to race in and curl an 18 yard shot into the bottom corner. USA ARE CHAMPIONS OF THE AMERICAS AND A STAR IS BORN!!!!!

764dak

I wonder if something like this can happen. It should be a close game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQO782abbAA

FatherTed

Kobe248 wrote: »

I honestly think USA could shock them

Argentina looked a bit shook yesterday at times and were tested by Venezuela

Saying that Messi looks about 3 levels higher than the next best player at the tournament

US have 3 players suspended making their situation even worse.

FatherTed

All Group Stage goals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbQ3C9LA_q8

Mec27

the game is tonight right? are setanta not showing it

wonski

Mec27 wrote: »

the game is tonight right? are setanta not showing it

It is tonight. No idea if Setanta is showing it, though.