EURO 2016 - Betting Game

Jayop

NB. THERE IS NO CASH PRIZE FOR THIS!!!!

Rules:
- You start off with a virtual €100.00
- If you go down to 0, that's it - you're out
- Bets are made on Euro 2016 only
- Minimum stake is €1
- No in game betting.
- The cut off line for bets is 60 minutes before each match
- Sports.coral.co.uk is the only site we'll be using for the odds
- Odds are in decimal to make it easier to calculate
- Only bets and odds offered in this page are allowed to be considered
- If I don't offer odds on something then you're welcome to ask for them, if I get them on time then they're in.
- If I'm not around could you please quote the bets made by other players to validate them. Only bets quoted by someone else will be valid.

Doubles, Trebles, Accumulators
For those who may not know - doubles, trebles, accumulators are single bets which are linked on a number of other wagers, and the outcome is dependent on all the wagers winning.
For example, if I had a treble containing the following:

England to beat Russia 3-1
Rooney to score first
Smolov to score anytime

The bet would only become successful is all 3 outcomes succeeded. Even if England won 3-1 and Rooney did score first but Kokorin scored for France, the bet would not be successful as Smolov did not score any-time. The odds for doubles, trebles, accumulators are obviously far better than single bets but naturally they're also more difficult to win.

Calculating Returns
All you have to do is multiply the decimals:
Your stake x odd of bet = returns
Same applies with doubles, trebles, etc. You multiply each odd by each odd by the stake.

Win Markets - (Win-Draw-Win, Half-Time/Full-Time, Winning Margin, Both Teams To Score, etc)
There are loads of win markets, I've tried to pick some of the more common ones. I won't pick the exact same markets for every game, but there will be a few that I'll always pick and a few others that vary to keep bets original and to give some different options.

The structure for bets should be as follows:
Betting slip: (Single, Double, etc)
Stake - €1.00
Team A to win 2-0 - 10.00
X to score first - 4.00
Total returns - €40.00 (You don't have to calculate your returns but it would help me!)

Players Registered
Jayop
Beefy78
Blatter
cjmc
Copper_Pipe
Stiffler123
dfx-
duffman13
batistuta9
Martingriff
xtal191
Shanothslayer
Lord TSC
Gavlor
Arghus
Monkey9
blindpilot
TiltedBrain
Irish94
Ziedth

Jayop

Here's some bets to get us started.









Nb. for E/W bets on Top Goalscorer as everything is the same as Coral. It'll be top 4 and then Dead heat if others are on the same amount of goals etc

Jayop

I'll add in the odds for the first games closer to the time.

SteelyDanJalapeno

In if in theres still room, i also posted in the old thread

Blatter

Jayop wrote: »

I'll add in the odds for the first games closer to the time.

I reckon it would be easier to just let people take their own bets from oddschecker. It would increase the variety of markets available to bet on with much better chance of striking value. There'll be enough people following this thread to be able to check the accuracy of the prices as they're posted, not that I think there'd be many cheating.

Jayop

Blatter wrote: »

I reckon it would be easier to just let people take their own bets from oddschecker. It would increase the variety of markets available to bet on with much better chance of striking value. There'll be enough people following this thread to be able to check the accuracy of the prices as they're posted, not that I think there'd be many cheating.

Cool. Does that have fixed odds though or are they changing? My worry was picking a bet at one price and it moving.

Lord TSC

Blatter wrote: »

I reckon it would be easier to just let people take their own bets from oddschecker. It would increase the variety of markets available to bet on with much better chance of striking value. There'll be enough people following this thread to be able to check the accuracy of the prices as they're posted, not that I think there'd be many cheating.

Disagree to an extent. (Obviously, this is Jayop's game so its his decision), but I think there's a better "game" to it, so to speak, if everyone is involved on the same small number of bets to choose from. Otherwise, I'd worry things could degenerate into everyone choosing their own bets at random and talking to themselves. With a very limited selection, there's more chance of multiple people having the same bet, or competing against each other.

Jayop

Yeah I think I'll keep it as is. There's a bit more work involved this way but it's the way it was done on a previous forum I played this on.

BTW, all bets for outright winner/top goalscorer etc. need to be submitted before the start of the tournament.

Shanotheslayer

Muller TGS. 8.00 5 E/W ( 10.00 total)
France to reach the Final 2.25. 10


Total staked: 20.00


Balance: 80.00

Jayop

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Muller TGS. 8.00 5 E/W ( 10.00 total)
France to reach the Final 2.25. 10


Total staked: 20.00


Balance: 80.00

What's the craic with EW bets on top goal scorers? Do we pay on the top 3 places??

Shanotheslayer

Jayop wrote: »

What's the craic with EW bets on top goal scorers? Do we pay on the top 3 places??

As everything is the same as Coral. It'll be top 4 and then Dead heat if others are on the same amount of goals etc

Jayop

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €5.00
France to Win Outright - 4.00
Total returns - €20.00

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €5.00
Germany to score most goals - 3.5
Total returns - €17.5

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €10.00
ROI group goals, over 2.5 - 2.00
Total returns - €20.00


Balance 80

Jayop

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

As everything is the same as Coral. It'll be top 4 and then Dead heat if others are on the same amount of goals etc

Ok I'll add that to that section. Thanks

Shanotheslayer

Out of curiosity are enchanced prices included? For example.


Jayop backs France to beat Romania at 3/1

France are then enchanced to 5/1 and I back them.


How does it work in terms of enchancements ?

martingriff

Belgium to reach final 6.00 10 euro stake

Belgium and Ireland Dual Forecast 7.00 5 euro stake

France 2016 Outright 4.00 5 euro bet

Total stake 20 euro

80 euro left.

Jayop

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Out of curiosity are enchanced prices included? For example.


Jayop backs France to beat Romania at 3/1

France are then enchanced to 5/1 and I back them.


How does it work in terms of enchancements ?

No, just what's on the posted odds.

Jayop

martingriff wrote: »

Belgium to reach final 6.00 10 euro stake

Belgium and Ireland Dual Forecast 7.00 5 euro stake

France 2016 Outright 4.00 5 euro bet

Total stake 20 euro

80 euro left.

Quoted.

Can someone please quote my bet too please

Blatter

Lord TSC wrote: »

Disagree to an extent. (Obviously, this is Jayop's game so its his decision), but I think there's a better "game" to it, so to speak, if everyone is involved on the same small number of bets to choose from. Otherwise, I'd worry things could degenerate into everyone choosing their own bets at random and talking to themselves. With a very limited selection, there's more chance of multiple people having the same bet, or competing against each other.

I would disagree that multiple people having the same bet is necessarily a good thing, more variety makes it more interesting imo. But having said that, there's probably not a lot of people that are used to navigating through oddschecker so I'm happy to do it the original way.

Blatter

Jayop wrote: »

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €5.00
France to Win Outright - 4.00
Total returns - €20.00

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €5.00
Germany to score most goals - 3.5
Total returns - €17.5

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €10.00
ROI group goals, over 2.5 - 2.00
Total returns - €20.00


Balance 80

Quoted.

What is the purpose of quoting selections? So nobody can delete theirs if it loses?

martingriff

Blatter wrote: »

Quoted.

What is the purpose of quoting selections? So nobody can delete theirs if it loses?

I would imagine yes

ziedth

martingriff wrote: »

I would imagine yes

Not overlynecessary for two reasons:

1. You can see when a post has been edited just report the post so a MOD can look into it and see did they change the bet etc.

2. You'd want to be a special kind of tool to cheat in a just for fun euro 2016 betting game

Jayop

I'm not a mod and I don't have the power to check and don't have the will to ask one for me. It's not deletion, just editing. I don't think anyone would cheat as there's no point, but any suggestion of such would alone ruin the game.

ziedth

Ya that's a fair point.

martingriff

ziedth wrote: »

Not overlynecessary for two reasons:

1. You can see when a post has been edited just report the post so a MOD can look into it and see did they change the bet etc.

2. You'd want to be a special kind of tool to cheat in a just for fun euro 2016 betting game

I would say 1 would take some time while quoting is quick and easy

2. Never over estimate some people people been tools(not saying anyone here is) and wanting to win even a fun game.

martingriff

I am guessing making a second posted bet is okay.

My YA THAT WILL HAPPEN BET

Ireland to get 9 points 81.00 1 euro

79 euro lefts

martingriff

Jayop wrote: »

I'm not a mod and I don't have the power to check and don't have the will to ask one for me. It's not deletion, just editing. I don't think anyone would cheat as there's no point, but any suggestion of such would alone ruin the game.

Can you quote you own bet

Jayop

martingriff wrote: »

Can you quote you own bet

Defeats the purpose. Look if someone doesn't get a bet posted we can verify it with one of the mods so it's not a big issue. Bets are closed an hour before games anyway so loads of time.

Jayop

martingriff wrote: »

I am guessing making a second posted bet is okay.

My YA THAT WILL HAPPEN BET

Ireland to get 9 points 81.00 1 euro

79 euro lefts

..

blindpilot

Single:

Iceland to win Group F outright €5 @ 8.50
Returns: €42.50

Single:
Olivier Giroud Top Goalscorer €5 @13.00
Returns: €65.00

Single:
Paul Pogba Player of the tournament €5 @ 9.00
Returns: €45.00


Balance left €85.00


Original post edited to change Icelands odds to 8.50 and to add returns.

Jayop

blindpilot wrote: »

Single:

Iceland to win Group F outright €5 @ 8.50

Single:
Olivier Giroud Top Goalscorer €5 @13.00

Single:
Paul Pogba Player of the tournament €5 @ 9.00

Balance left €85.00

Lads can you add the odds and returns. Also, two of those bets haven't been posted. I'll try to get the odds for them later.

Edited original post to change Iceland odds to 8.5

Jayop

New player Irish94

Lord TSC

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €10
Martial Top Scorer @ 26.00
Total returns - €260

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €20
Ireland to finish with 0 points @ 6.00
Total returns - €120

Total Left: €70
I think I did the returns right; it's just multiple stake by the odds in this case, when its a decimal, right?

Jayop

Lord TSC wrote: »

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €10
Martial Top Scorer @ 26.00
Total returns - €260

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €20
Ireland to finish with 0 points @ 6.00
Total returns - €120

Total Left: €70
I think I did the returns right; it's just multiple stake by the odds in this case, when its a decimal, right?

...

Jayop

FRANCE v ROMANIA

ALL BETS MUST BE IN BY 7PM ON FRIDAY

ziedth

Hey,

Is it too late to get added in? Wouldn't mind something else going to keep me interested

Jayop

ziedth wrote: »

Hey,

Is it too late to get added in? Wouldn't mind something else going to keep me interested

Go ahead. I'll add you to the OP.

Shanotheslayer

Tempted to throw 70 on France, can't see them not winning the opening the game and seems like a handy balance booster.

blindpilot

Sorry Jayop got a little carried away and didnt read the rules through properly. I can delete that post if you want and do a new one, with bets from what you've listed or edit it to include the returns.

Jayop

Balls. Just realized I posted those odds as fraction rather than decimal. We'll struggle by for this game and I'll have it right for the next one cleared my Web history and it must have defaulted back.

France - 1 looks like a double your money cert too. Worth 30 quid I think. Don't want to go balls out too early though.

Jayop

blindpilot wrote: »

Sorry Jayop got a little carried away and didnt read the rules through properly. I can delete that post if you want and do a new one, with bets from what you've listed or edit it to include the returns.

Nah it's fine, just add the returns if you can from now on.

I edited your post in my quote to update the price on Iceland to 8.5 from 7.5 as that's what's on coral. If you want to change the original post go ahead and just add a note.

Blatter

Jayop wrote: »

Balls. Just realized I posted those odds as fraction rather than decimal. We'll struggle by for this game and I'll have it right for the next one cleared my Web history and it must have defaulted back.

France - 1 looks like a double your money cert too. Worth 30 quid I think. Don't want to go balls out too early though.

Romania only conceded 2 goals during the entire qualifying campaign. They were in a very poor group but that's still good going. They're very negative and will park the bus v France.

Jayop

Blatter wrote: »

Romania only conceded 2 goals during the entire qualifying campaign. They were in a very poor group but that's still good going. They're very negative and will park the bus v France.

LOL this is why I don't really bet.

monkey9

You can take my name out of this game. I know myself I won't keep up playing this game after a while (why I never bother playing FF) and if it's limited players, I don't want to take up someone else's place who wants to play.

duffman13

Opening Balance €100

Multiple
Poland, Belgium, France and Portugal to win Group

€10 @ 25.40

Returns: 254.40

Multiple
First round of group matches
France, Poland, Switzerland, Croatia and Germany all to win.

€10 @12.35
Returns: 123.50

Closing balance: €80

I'm an accumulator kind of guy

By the way, anyone else find coral extremely unfriendly to use on mobile.

stiffler123

Payet top France goalscorer 10 @ 10/1 returns 110
Alli top England goalscorer 10 @ 10/1 returns 110
Austria/ Portugal straight forecast 10 @ 4/1 returns 50
Wales to beat England 10 at 5/1 returns 60
KDB top scorer 5 e/w at 40/1 returns 260
Janko top scorer 5 e/w at 40/1 returns 260
Wales to beat Slovakia/ Austria to beat Hungary 40 double returns 183.20
Balance 0

Copper_pipe

Openinh Balance 100

Bet 1

France vs Romania
Over 2.5 Goals.

25 euros @ Evens to Return 50

Closing Balance 75

Irish94

Balance: €100

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €5.00
Top Goalscorer - Robert Lewandowski (E/W) - 17.00
Total returns - €110.00

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €2.50
Top Goalscorer - Nolito (E/W) - 34.00
Total returns - €108.13

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €5
Outright Winner - Spain (E/W) - 5.50
Total returns - €43.75

Remaining Balance: €75.00

Jayop, can you put up the odds for teams to reach the Quarter Final/Semi Final? Thanks.

Lord TSC

For France vs Romania

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €40
Giroud Anytime @ Evens
Total returns - €80

Money Left: €30

Shanotheslayer

duffman13 wrote: »

Opening Balance €100

Multiple
Poland, Belgium, France and Portugal to win Group

€10 @ 25.40

Returns: 254.40

Multiple
First round of group matches
France, Poland, Switzerland, Croatia and Germany all to win.

€10 @12.35
Returns: 123.50

Closing balance: €80

I'm an accumulator kind of guy

By the way, anyone else find coral extremely unfriendly to use on mobile.

stiffler123 wrote: »

Payet top France goalscorer 10 @ 10/1 returns 110
Alli top England goalscorer 10 @ 10/1 returns 110
Austria/ Portugal straight forecast 10 @ 4/1 returns 50
Wales to beat England 10 at 5/1 returns 60
KDB top scorer 5 e/w at 40/1 returns 260
Janko top scorer 5 e/w at 40/1 returns 260
Wales to beat Slovakia/ Austria to beat Hungary 40 double returns 183.20
Balance 0

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Openinh Balance 100

Bet 1

France vs Romania
Over 2.5 Goals.

25 euros @ Evens to Return 50

Closing Balance 75

Irish94 wrote: »

Balance: €100

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €5.00
Top Goalscorer - Robert Lewandowski (E/W) - 17.00
Total returns - €110.00

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €2.50
Top Goalscorer - Nolito (E/W) - 34.00
Total returns - €108.13

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €5
Outright Winner - Spain (E/W) - 5.50
Total returns - €43.75

Remaining Balance: €75.00

Jayop, can you put up the odds for teams to reach the Quarter Final/Semi Final? Thanks.

Lord TSC wrote: »

For France vs Romania

Betting slip: Single
Stake - €40
Giroud Anytime @ Evens
Total returns - €80

Money Left: €30

Quotez

Gavlor

Stake 5.00 win
Italy to reach final 9.0
Potential return €50

Balance 95.00

Stake 5.00 win
Top scorer giroud 13.0
Potential return 70

Balance 90.00

ziedth

Double:

Switzerland and Slovakia to win:

Bet €25
Return €135.50
Balance: €75

Go big or go home I say :pac: