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Diplomas

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  • 07-06-2016 10:12am
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    elastics
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    Hi,
    I was curious about diplomas in evening courses from some colleges in Dublin (I wont mention in case it's against the rules).
    My friend signed up for one in Web design and I was looking at the course content online -
    first of all I was amazed at the easyness of it and how out of date it seemed.

    I mean so easy - like changing a header on a HTML page.
    FTP - uploading/downloading files on a server .. not much more advanced then that

    2nd of all , how come it's called a Diploma ? the course is 10 weeks and *one* class per week !!

    From my college days a diploma was 2-3 years of full time education and a degree 4 !
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    Tom Dunne
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    The key is the National Qualifications Framework. Any qualification worth its salt will be on this framework - it goes all the way from Junior Cert up to PhDs.

    So that should tell you the worth of a 10-week "diploma".

    I assume a diploma sounds better than a certificate, so it's more a marketing thing.


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    elastics
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29 ✭elastics


    So there is no regulation then ?
    They can call it anything ?

    Surely it devalues Diplomas that take years to get, also how do I check it has this accredation ?


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    elastics
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29 ✭elastics


    So there is no regulation then ?
    They can call it anything ?

    Surely it devalues Diplomas that take years to get, also how do I check it has this accredation ?



    edit- by the looks of it this college has that National qualifications framework ..


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    intheclouds
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    You have to check if the college is accredited by a recognised accreditation body.

    Anyone can set up a website and sell "diplomas", and even claim that they meet the requirements of the NQF, but if the accreditation is nonsense then the diploma is nonsense.


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    elastics
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29 ✭elastics


    Sorry for the dups, can't seem to edit - anyway, checked and the course seems to be a level 1 FETAC ... hmm could explain things.

    It's a pity, they are charging €700 for something you would be better off doing on EDX for free ..more content and up to date ..


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    Tom Dunne
    Registered Users Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    elastics wrote: »
    So there is no regulation then ?
    They can call it anything ?

    Yup, pretty much.
    elastics wrote: »
    Surely it devalues Diplomas that take years to get, also how do I check it has this accredation ?

    Find a diploma on the National Qualifications Framework. ;) There are Higher Diplomas, but, to the best of my knowledge, no longer "regular" diplomas. The "old" diplomas became Ordinary Level Degrees and were at Level 7 on the NQF.
    elastics wrote: »
    edit- by the looks of it this college has that National qualifications framework ..

    But for what courses? You can be sure a 10-week diploma is not on the NQF.


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    Tom Dunne
    Registered Users Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    elastics wrote: »
    Sorry for the dups, can't seem to edit - anyway, checked and the course seems to be a level 1 FETAC ... hmm could explain things.

    It's a pity, they are charging €700 for something you would be better off doing on EDX for free ..more content and up to date ..

    Two points:

    - FETAC doesn't exist any more. So that's out of date. Check out www.qqi.ie for full details

    - Re: EDX - some people prefer to be in a classroom with a teacher, so online learning isn't for everyone


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    elastics
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29 ✭elastics


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    Two points:

    - FETAC doesn't exist any more. So that's out of date.
    - Re: EDX - some people prefer to be in a classroom with a teacher, so online learning isn't for everyone


    That was from a 2012 report on the place and the course was listed as FETAC 1 .. now the same course is still there and curriculum is the same.

    anyway, bottom line, it's not like a Diploma from a DIT where it takes 2-3 years to do ..


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