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Look for experienced driver for accompanied driving

  • 12-06-2016 7:37pm
    #1
    xusx595
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭


    Finally found a colleague at work help me for free. Thanks for all your comments.


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  • #2
    MascotDec85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭MascotDec85


    xusx595 wrote: »
    I am not sure whether it is the right place to put this or not. I am a learner permit holder and trying to find a full-license driver for accompanied driving. I live in the city center near parnell st.. I would like to pay 15 euro per hour, and 3 hours per week. Thanks.

    Legally, the only person who can taken money from someone learning to drive is an ADI.


  • #3
    my friend
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    MascotDec85 wrote: »
    Legally, the only person who can taken money from someone learning to drive is an ADI.

    You didn't read their post, they need an accompanying driver not an instructor


  • #4
    El Tarangu
    Registered Users Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭El Tarangu


    OP - is there anyone you work with that lives in the same area as you? You could offer to drive them; they would surely appreciate it, and it wouldn't cost you anything other than petrol.


  • #5
    xusx595
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭xusx595


    MascotDec85 wrote: »
    xusx595 wrote: »
    I am not sure whether it is the right place to put this or not. I am a learner permit holder and trying to find a full-license driver for accompanied driving. I live in the city center near parnell st.. I would like to pay 15 euro per hour, and 3 hours per week. Thanks.

    Legally, the only person who can taken money from someone learning to drive is an ADI.
    I am also having lessons from ADI, although I have finished all my EDT lessons. Just want to find somebody to do some practice.


  • #6
    MascotDec85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭MascotDec85


    my friend wrote: »
    You didn't read their post, they need an accompanying driver not an instructor

    I did read the post. It's still illegal


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  • #7
    my friend
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    MascotDec85 wrote: »
    my friend wrote: »
    You didn't read their post, they need an accompanying driver not an instructor

    I did read the post. It's still illegal

    Back to your Micra , it's not illegal for a learner driver to be accompanied by a fully licensed driver, if the learner chooses to make a financial arrangement with that driver that's their business (instruction is another matter)


  • #8
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    MascotDec85 wrote: »
    I did read the post. It's still illegal

    Part 4, Section 21 of the Road Traffic (Driving Instructor Licensing) (No. 2) Regulations 2009 statutory instrument has this to say on the matter:


    21. (1) Subject to paragraphs (2) and (3), a person shall not give driving instruction for reward in a public place in a vehicle of a category for which section 38 of the 1961 Act requires the driver to hold a driving licence, unless the person holds a driving instructor’s licence for vehicles of that category.

    (2) If the person receiving the instruction holds a driving licence for the vehicle category, paragraph (1) applies only if the driving licence has code 78 endorsed on it and the vehicle has a manual transmission.

    (3) Paragraph (1) does not apply if the person giving the instruction is a member of the Gárda Síochána, the Defence Forces or the staff of the Authority, and is giving the instruction in the course of his or her duties as such a member.

    (4) Paragraph (1) is a penal provision.


  • #9
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    The accompanying driver is there with the expectation that they would instruct the learner with reference to their experience. Otherwise they would just be required to have a witness.


  • #10
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    The accompanying driver is there with the expectation that they would instruct the learner with reference to their experience. Otherwise they would just be required to have a witness.

    You could take that view, I suppose. Even so, it isn't really enforceable. Come to think of it, I'd say the only thing making the actual driving instruction thing at least theoretically enforceable is the EDT. :pac:


  • #11
    Lia_lia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭Lia_lia


    I know a few years ago someone on Boards was offering to accompany learner drivers for donations to charity. Was a great idea! Don't think they do it anymore though. I know what it's like though op, very hard to get practise when you don't have anyone to go out with you. Luckily I had someone to drop to work a few days a week.


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  • #12
    loobylou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭loobylou


    And I can't even give away lessons for free;:confused::confused:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057609475


  • #13
    MascotDec85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭MascotDec85


    loobylou wrote: »
    And I can't even give away lessons for free;:confused::confused:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057609475

    Can't any of your existing pupils do it?


  • #14
    MascotDec85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭MascotDec85


    my friend wrote: »
    Back to your Micra , it's not illegal for a learner driver to be accompanied by a fully licensed driver, if the learner chooses to make a financial arrangement with that driver that's their business (instruction is another matter)

    I checked it out with the RSA and you are correct. Seems the only thing which separates it is that only an ADI can give EDT lessons. Essentially, the law is a bit flaky here. In theory, an non-ADI could give lessons and charge someone, who got their first learner permit before April 201, for them and claim they were accompanying them.

    Don't know what you mean about "Back to your Micra"?


  • #15
    MascotDec85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭MascotDec85


    Turns out I was actually correct. I'll post an email exchange between myself and the RSA later


  • #16
    Rothmans
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Rothmans


    MascotDec85 wrote: »
    Turns out I was actually correct. I'll post an email exchange between myself and the RSA later

    I don't think so. Going by the emails you posted it seems that it is illegal to pose as an instructor, rather than merely accompanying a learner as is the case here. Or am missing something?


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