Euro 2016 Group F, Portugal v Iceland, 8PM RTE 2 and BBC 1

GreNoLi

'He's a haddock Bill'.

mansize

Humanity? I think Ronaldo's humanitarian work is well known. No mention of tax avoidance either

mansize

Roy Keane made similar remarks re post match celebrations and they were widely cheered on boards. I don't agree with either btw

Clear Hearts

Grandeeod wrote: »

I assume you are talking about Ronaldo and the subsequent comments here. Personally I find him to be arrogant and lacking in any kind of humility. His comments about Iceland were very poor and his sneering at different stages of the game simply displayed a character that expected to win and ultimately could not deal with the fact that Portugal didn't win.

What happens on the pitch and off it are different things, maybe have a read up what he does for society. I honestly couldnt care what he says about Iceland, but Im not targeting those posts. The ones who are questioning his talents are the ones who really are just idiots who havent a clue

Grandeeod

Clear Hearts wrote: »

What happens on the pitch and off it are different things, maybe have a read up what he does for society. I honestly couldnt care what he says about Iceland, but Im not targeting those posts. The ones who are questioning his talents are the ones who really are just idiots who havent a clue

Yep, he's talented, no doubt about it. I'm well aware of what he does for society, but I found him distasteful in the after match commentary.

adox

Was classless what he did last night walking off the pitch, not shaking hands with the opposition, not acknowledging the Portugese fans. Call me old fashioned but, despite it being big business now I still like to think of it as a sport and shaking hands at the end of the game no matter the result or disappointment is part of it. He showed no respect and did act like a child.

His post match comments were nonsense as well. Complete and utter nonsense.

Clear Hearts

Andre 3000 wrote: »

Messi saved the Argies asses numerous times in the group stages at the WC

How about the final of the world cup where he didnt show up, my point is it wasnt just his fault and to blame Messi for it is nonsense same as to blame Ronaldo

The Golden Miller

Clear Hearts wrote: »

How about the final of the world cup where he didnt show up, my point is it wasnt just his fault and to blame Messi for it is nonsense same as to blame Ronaldo

This Portuguese team is built around Ronaldo. That Argentina team was built to do nothing but defend, whose only offensive plan seemed to be getting the ball to an isolated Messi, who was man marked by about 3 players. In spite of this, Messi's performances for most of the tournament exceeded anything Ronaldo contributed against Iceland, or anything he will produce over the coming weeks. At least Messi tried to get on the ball and create. In contrast, even the Iceland lads said they didn't give Ronaldo any extra attention, and why would they? He'll do nothing unless given the ball on a plate 5 yards out from goal

adox

The Golden Miller wrote: »

This Portuguese team is built around Ronaldo.He'll do nothing unless given the ball on a plate 5 yards out from goal

You can't honestly believe that?

The Golden Miller

adox wrote: »

You can't honestly believe that?

What do think he'll produce in this tournament exactly? Would you be confident he'll run the show for Portugal or put in any MOTM performances? Do you think he'll even score without a Real Madrid midfield putting the ball on a plate for him in front of cannon fodder defenses? What will he actually do? I'll tell you....absolutely nothing. He does not have the skill set, creativity, playmaking ability to run the show, nor will goals come so easily. He'll be anonymous

adox

The Golden Miller wrote: »

What do think he'll produce in this tournament exactly? Would you be confident he'll run the show for Portugal or put in any MOTM performances? Do you think he'll even score without a Real Madrid midfield putting the ball on a plate for him in front of cannon fodder defenses? What will he actually do? I'll tell you....absolutely nothing. He does not have the skill set, creativity, playmaking ability to run the show, nor will goals come so easily. He'll be anonymous

If that's what you honestly think of him then there's no point in even trying to debate with you.

The Golden Miller

adox wrote: »

If that's what you honestly think of him then there's no point in even trying to debate with you.

Ah yes, avoid the point as you know he'll do nothing of note. It's simple, what do you think we can expect from a player who is lauded by some as one of the best players ever? You see, everyone always tells me I don't know what I'm talking about when comes to Ronaldo, yet when stats aren't relevant to the discussion no one actually addresses the points raised. Do you think he'll get motm in any game? Yes or no? If not, why?

Rezident

Ronaldo's still such a a bad sport:

Ronaldo, making his 127th appearance for Portugal, said it had been a "lucky night" for his opponents and accused them of putting "the bus in the net".
"Portugal try to play football and try to win the game," said the 31-year-old Real Madrid star. "Iceland didn't try anything."


"I thought they'd won the Euros the way they celebrated at the end," said Ronaldo, who appeared to refuse to shake hands with the Iceland players immediately after the game.

"We tried hard to win and Iceland didn't try anything. This, in my opinion, shows a small mentality and they are not going to do anything in the competition."

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36536445

adox

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Ah yes, avoid the point as you know he'll do nothing of note. It's simple, what do you think we can expect from a player who is lauded by some as one of the best players ever? You see, everyone always tells me I don't know what I'm talking about when comes to Ronaldo, yet when stats aren't relevant to the discussion no one actually addresses the points raised. Do you think he'll get motm in any game? Yes or no? If not, why?

You want me to defend one of the greatest players to ever play the game against your point that "he does nothing unless given th ball 5 yards in front of goal" ?

It's ridiculous and I won't waste my time. I was just astounded that you honestly held that opinion.

sReq | uTeK

The Golden Miller wrote: »

What do think he'll produce in this tournament exactly? Would you be confident he'll run the show for Portugal or put in any MOTM performances? Do you think he'll even score without a Real Madrid midfield putting the ball on a plate for him in front of cannon fodder defenses? What will he actually do? I'll tell you....absolutely nothing. He does not have the skill set, creativity, playmaking ability to run the show, nor will goals come so easily. He'll be anonymous

Yup I mean he's only a triple balon dor winner as voted by his peers. You know the people who play the game at its highest level and whose opinion hold some weight.

Yup a total spoofer.

The Golden Miller

Yet people still can't give a prediction on how he'll do.

The Golden Miller

adox wrote: »

You want me to defend one of the greatest players to ever play the game against your point that "he does nothing unless given th ball 5 yards in front of goal" ?

It's ridiculous and I won't waste my time. I was just astounded that you honestly held that opinion.

You don't have to defend anything. Just answer the questions at the end. Surely you'll have time, seeing as you continue to waste your time replying everytime you say you won't. Can we expect one of the greatest players ever to even get within an asses roar of being the man of the match in just one game? If he's as good as you say he is, surely you'll be confident of him being motm in even one game, ye?

Clear Hearts

The Golden Miller wrote: »

This Portuguese team is built around Ronaldo. That Argentina team was built to do nothing but defend, whose only offensive plan seemed to be getting the ball to an isolated Messi, who was man marked by about 3 players. In spite of this, Messi's performances for most of the tournament exceeded anything Ronaldo contributed against Iceland, or anything he will produce over the coming weeks. At least Messi tried to get on the ball and create. In contrast, even the Iceland lads said they didn't give Ronaldo any extra attention, and why would they? He'll do nothing unless given the ball on a plate 5 yards out from goal

Really you should ask a Argentine about how Messi played in that world cup, he wasnt even close to Di Maria for example. Your bias is shining

Clear Hearts

Its also funny, Messi insulting players in Copa America just being ignored, hmmm

The Golden Miller

My bias? This has nothing to do with Messi, only people trying to shoehorn him in to deflect from Ronaldo, trying to make comparisons taken completely out of context. Still no one will stick out their neck and give a prediction on how Ronaldo will do.

Mushy

Clear Hearts wrote: »

Its also funny, Messi insulting players in Copa America just being ignored, hmmm

Copa America wouldn't have as much focus this neck of the woods when Euros are on.

GreNoLi

The Golden Miller wrote: »

My bias? This has nothing to do with Messi, only people trying to shoehorn him in to deflect from Ronaldo, trying to make comparisons taken completely out of context. Still no one will stick out their neck and give a prediction on how Ronaldo will do.

I mostly disagree with you but I admire your commitment to a cause.

Clear Hearts

The Golden Miller wrote: »

My bias? This has nothing to do with Messi, only people trying to shoehorn him in to deflect from Ronaldo, trying to make comparisons taken completely out of context. Still no one will stick out their neck and give a prediction on how Ronaldo will do.

Ronaldo will score at least 4 goals at this euros, there get back to me when Im wrong

The Golden Miller

Clear Hearts wrote: »

Ronaldo will score at least 4 goals at this euros, there get back to me when Im wrong

I will get back to you when he fails miserably in that task

The Golden Miller

GreNoLi wrote: »

I mostly disagree with you but I admire your commitment to a cause.

Would you miss me if Ronaldo actually started to play well for once in his career and I disappeared?

GreNoLi

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Would you miss me if Ronaldo actually started to play well for once in his career and I disappeared?

I actually enjoy your posts.

monkey9

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Would you miss me if Ronaldo actually started to play well for once in his career and I disappeared?

:pac::pac:

Clear Hearts

The Golden Miller wrote: »

I will get back to you when he fails miserably in that task

And I will mock you when he does, then you will come back with hes only a goal scorer and continue to dig yourself a bigger hole

The Golden Miller

Clear Hearts wrote: »

And I will mock you when he does, then you will come back with hes only a goal scorer and continue to dig yourself a bigger hole

Well he is only a goal scorer, and would have a fairly average goal to game ratio if he was with any other club. You're living in lala land if you think he'll do anything in this tournament

Clear Hearts

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Well he is only a goal scorer, and would have a fairly average goal to game ratio if he was with any other club. You're living in lala land if you think he'll do anything in this tournament

Making excuses already, lol just sad

The Golden Miller

Clear Hearts wrote: »

Making excuses already, lol just sad

How am I making excuses if that's what I've said from day 1? I said he'd do nothing in the Champions League final and he'll do nothing in the euros. He does not have the necessary attributes to do so, unless goals are set up for him. The Portugal team is extremely average, and Ronaldo will not even come by any goals because of that. We'll leave it there I suppose and just wait and see. Just wish I knew you so we could put money on this

Irish_rat

Mec27 wrote: »

He is ageing like ****

And that's after getting his botox topped up and makeup applied. :-D

Lads who took portugals corners in this game?

Washington Irving

Deleted User wrote: »

Lads who took portugals corners in this game?

Guierrero and Quaresma took a few. Might have been others though

Washington Irving

Washington Irving wrote: »

Guierrero and Quaresma took a few. Might have been others though

Mucho appreciated dude