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IFS NCI apprenticeship interview 14/06/16

  • 14-06-2016 7:38pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭


    So to the about 300 who went today (and the couple of us talking about the lack of discussion on boards.ie) how did people get on with the interviews for the level 6, 8 and 9 courses today?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28 happyguy91


    Hey, it was a strange experience...90 seconds to sell yourself basically and then those 3 or 4 questions...it's very hard to gauge how it went. I went for the Specialist Apprenticeship, so the level 8...how did you get on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭vg88


    thought i did well but i dunno till we get the call back. Was it the end of july they said?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 happyguy91


    moloner4 wrote: »
    thought i did well but i dunno till we get the call back. Was it the end of july they said?

    Yeah end of July, so a bit of a long wait 😖


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Daveharold


    What kind of questions did they ask. I've got my interview/pitch next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭vg88


    they ask for a 90 second pitch and then they asked 3 others questions


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    I am attending for assessment on Wednesday evening. Apart from the pitch/questions what else happens between 2 and 5? Chatting with other applicants and NCI staff? Is the panel made up of NCI staff and recruiters? Also, does anyone know if we need to have decided in advance whether to go for the Data Analytics or Fintech qualification, or is that determined for you based on your experience/qualifications? Any further information would be greatly appreciated!


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 ryans30


    Can only imagine the questions are in relation to the presentation you give, or are there any sort of technical questions asked? what sort of level of candidates were at the event?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    Do we need to bring our academic transcripts and CV? I probably will anyway, just in case.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 ryans30


    you've to bring a transcript anyway. CV has to have been submitted with the original application, so I doubt it is a requirement but probably wise to bring along just incase.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    By virtue of the fact we have been accepted to attend tomorrow's session, does that mean our academic qualifications and experience are sufficient and we just have to elaborate so they can choose the most suitable among us? Or did they invite everybody who applied?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22 ryans30


    I can only imagine there was some form of screening, 100 spots per associate, specialist and advanced specialist roles.

    Given that they've already done an assessment day, there might have been a high acceptance rate for this stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    Do you have any idea how many out of the 100 per level will get selected? The information available is fairly minimal, but I guess we will know more tomorrow afternoon. I had thought that maybe because they re advertised the apprenticeships past the original closing deadline that perhaps there was not enough interest the first time around.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Hoochel


    I went to the first assessment centre and was told there is only approx 20 available places at adv. specialist level and would I like to be included in just the specialist level if not successful in getting adv specialist place.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 ryans30


    I only applied on the 8th itself and didn't realize it was advertised again - I would have similar thoughts though about reopening.

    Have absolutely no idea about how many positions are available per level - would naturally assume more are available for associate than specialist etc. just based on the cost of employment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 ryans30


    Actually, I recall a press release stating they hope to offer 220 positions in 2016, and 1,000 by 2020.

    given that 20 are for the advanced specialist the other 200 are for the specialist and associate roles, probably with something like a 60/40 split - don't see them being 100 positions each


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    Hoochel wrote: »
    I went to the first assessment centre and was told there is only approx 20 available places at adv. specialist level and would I like to be included in just the specialist level if not successful in getting adv specialist place.

    Have you heard back yet about whether you have been successful - I don't need to know what the outcome was, just wondering what the time frame is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    ryans30 wrote: »
    Actually, I recall a press release stating they hope to offer 220 positions in 2016, and 1,000 by 2020.

    given that 20 are for the advanced specialist the other 200 are for the specialist and associate roles, probably with something like a 60/40 split - don't see them being 100 positions each

    Yes you are probably correct. I applied for the Specialist role, I wonder if it would have been possible to apply for two levels to maximise chances, but I didn't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Hoochel


    Nothing yet but was advised it will be mid to end of July, I'm praying everyday since!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    Well, the very best of luck with it! I wonder will we all hear at the same time, or will those of us going tomorrow hear later again. When you were at the centre, were you given a specific time to go and make your pitch when you arrived, or did they call names out with everybody waiting?


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 ryans30


    So that was a lot different than my expectations, not very well organsoed, what appeared to be low numbers and not a very ideal wayvof creating a shortlist based on 4 minutes of trying to cram as much in as possible.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    I agree. And I took a precious half day off work to attend. There were no opportunities for candidates to ask questions which was ridiculous. And then will will be another month to 6 weeks before we hear anything. I guess it all comes down to the calibre of the other candidates and how good their pitches came across to the one person they each met with.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    I also have a feeling that they will give preference towards current nci students, of whom there seemed to be quote a number in attendance. I hate to be a moaner and I do realise if I don't get through its all down to my experience and pitch not being up to scratch.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Hoochel


    I was at the first session in June and also thought it was very badly organised. The guidelines issued for the day were not actually what happened I was very thrown when I went out to give a pitch to one person when I was expecting to give it to more.
    Why do u think they would give preference to NCI students?


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 ryans30


    Completely agree with you. Can't say I had a "pitch" prepared, I think that all kind of goes out the window when there's a bell ringing in the lobby of a college in the background. Don't think they're getting the response to it they thought they might have, given there was this day held and numbers seemed low, also don't know how worthwhile it is given that the employers have the final say. Hope it isn't a reflection of the two years.

    Wasn't too impressed overall anyway, but would still be decent, best of luck though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 ryans30


    There was specific reference and acknowledgement to people who currently study at NCI or have done


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    There was indeed a specific reference made. Also, as far as I am aware the people listening to the pitches were a mixture of academic and administration staff of NCI, who might know the NCI students they were interviewing. Also, it looks good for the colleges reputation if their own students progress and get opportunities, so there could be a tendency towards bias. Having said that, it might not be the case at all. It would be a fantastic apprenticeship to get - to be able to study while working in a related filed can be a rare find. I went for the specialist level - which was probably the most popular. I saw very few people today who looked like they were school leavers who were applying for the entry level, anyone I talked to was going for the same as me. It will be a long wait until we find out - the middle or end of August. For those of us currently in employment with a month's notice to give, I'm not sure how that is going to pan out depending on the date in September the course start date is. I wonder at the next session if we are successful, do we get to meet with just one company, or several?


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 ryans30


    Yeah, timing would be a big factor. Would nearly have to declare myself unavailable without the one months notice period - especially considering I may start other things with my current employer. I read it was recruiters we met, which was different from the info provided today, so who knows, companies might just take their pick from the short list.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Hoochel


    The whole thing was very misleading I actually gave my pitch to Carol, the lady from FSI who issued the invitation and spoke at the assessment centre briefing.
    You guys are right about time ticking by in relation to a course starting in Septmeber given that it was announced last January you would think progress would have been swifter to allow time for candidates to prepare for job moves and possible relocation to Dublin.
    Did any of you get a good feeling from the person you pitched to or were they just like ok say your thing and go? I spent the whole weekend and day leading up to it creating a PowerPoint presentation, practising and fretting over it only to leave with the feeling that was a load of...


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    Hoochel wrote: »
    The whole thing was very misleading I actually gave my pitch to Carol, the lady from FSI who issued the invitation and spoke at the assessment centre briefing.
    You guys are right about time ticking by in relation to a course starting in Septmeber given that it was announced last January you would think progress would have been swifter to allow time for candidates to prepare for job moves and possible relocation to Dublin.
    Did any of you get a good feeling from the person you pitched to or were they just like ok say your thing and go? I spent the whole weekend and day leading up to it creating a PowerPoint presentation, practising and fretting over it only to leave with the feeling that was a load of...

    It was a bit say your piece and get out of my hair! He was perfectly polite and wished me luck but gave no real indication as to whether he was listening properly or not. I think I pitched well so I don't feel I let myself down which is the main thing. Definitely naive of them regarding timing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    Also, if you look up the MSc in Fintech which is one of the courses on offer for the Advanced Specialist level, it warns that it is currently in development and not yet accredited, which is possibly why today they were keen to enforce the fact that most companies were more attracted to the entry and mid level positions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 ryans30


    just trying to get an idea of timing here, has anyone heard anything that he'd been told they'd be in contact by the end of July?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 denjaa89


    I have still not heard anything back from them. Kinda interesting now to get the feedback on the 90 seconds interview


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Hoochel


    I was in the first assessment in June and still have not heard anything, hopefully this week we will hear something


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 denjaa89


    I assume nobody still have been contacted regarding the result of either being accepted or not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭vg88


    Nope nothing


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28 happyguy91


    Hi guys, my elevator pitch was back in May. Got an email this morning advising I've been shortlisted for screening and interviews with the companys which will commence in Autumn 2016 (date tbc). Email advises that chosen candidates will commence the apprenticeship in Quarter 1 2017.

    Best of luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭vg88


    happyguy91 wrote: »
    Hi guys, my elevator pitch was back in May. Got an email this morning advising I've been shortlisted for screening and interviews with the companys which will commence in Autumn 2016 (date tbc). Email advises that chosen candidates will commence the apprenticeship in Quarter 1 2017.

    Best of luck

    Thanks for the update, had mine on the 14th of june. How long did they take to get back?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    I also got an email today informing me the same as happyguy91, my pitch was part of the July session. I'm really pleased as I had no idea how I had performed. Best of luck to all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 ryans30


    I think the real screening will be with the employers, to be honest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    ryans30 wrote: »
    I think the real screening will be with the employers, to be honest.

    Definitely. But it's good to get the opportunity to be screened, whatever format that will take. Does anyone know if it is going to be a similar format to the pitches to NCI?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22 ryans30


    Ah it is of course, yes. I don't really know what approach will be taken for employer screening, they might choose certain people from the short list to meet perhaps? Who knows, can only imagine we will be briefed in due course.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Hoochel


    I've just got an email now confirming progression to next stage of advanced specialist,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Nuttzz


    ryans30 wrote: »
    Ah it is of course, yes. I don't really know what approach will be taken for employer screening, they might choose certain people from the short list to meet perhaps? Who knows, can only imagine we will be briefed in due course.

    I would reckon you'd be looking at a proper interview at this level, you are going to work for them for 2 years at least. I can imagine it will be pretty competitive at the next stage


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    Nuttzz wrote: »
    I would reckon you'd be looking at a proper interview at this level, you are going to work for them for 2 years at least. I can imagine it will be pretty competitive at the next stage

    I have a feeling it wont be straight into interviews with companies. I remember they said something about speed dating with employers so perhaps they will give us all a few minutes with a selection of companies and we move on to the next when the bell is rang. Then based on that the companies select who they want to interview. Although that seems like a bit of a waste of time so companies might not be up for that. I imagine finding a time that suits them all to congregate would be very difficult. I wonder why it was pushed forward until Jan 17, originally it was due to commence in Sept 16. Perhaps they have not secured enough companies to take the numer of candidates the government have proposed funding. It would be great if they told us what will happen at the next stage now so we can prepare, perhaps they have not yet figured it out that far themselves.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Trixie777


    I got my e-mail also to say I am on the shortlist but I am disappointed it will not happen until quarter 1 2017 as I was expecting if for September. It was a little bit vague as it's said the next phase of the process is Autumn. Technically it's Autumn now, but it could also be the end of October before we hear anything. Did anyone get more information as I am really hoping for this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭vg88


    Still heard nothing, anyone who didn't get it get a rejection email?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    Trixie777 wrote: »
    I got my e-mail also to say I am on the shortlist but I am disappointed it will not happen until quarter 1 2017 as I was expecting if for September. It was a little bit vague as it's said the next phase of the process is Autumn. Technically it's Autumn now, but it could also be the end of October before we hear anything. Did anyone get more information as I am really hoping for this?

    I would say the reason it is a it vague is because the details have not been arranged yet. I would also hazard a guess that they have moved the date of commencement forward because they are having difficulties getting enough companies on board to take the number of apprentices they got approval for funding for. All we can do it wait for the next email - unless anybody who attends/attended NCI has insider information.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    moloner4 wrote: »
    Still heard nothing, anyone who didn't get it get a rejection email?

    Have you tried getting in touch?


  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭EriT


    Got the email to say I'm into the next round for advanced specialist , I also got an email to say I'm into the next level for the specialist level for which I have no interest in . But sure will see what happens next. Very unorganised surly 99% of it should have been set up before taking applications


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 denjaa89


    EriT wrote: »
    Got the email to say I'm into the next round for advanced specialist , I also got an email to say I'm into the next level for the specialist level for which I have no interest in . But sure will see what happens next. Very unorganised surly 99% of it should have been set up before taking applications

    I have also received the two confirmation even though I did not apply for the Specialist Level. Also tried to contact them regarding how the next stage is going to be organised and did not get any response back. Assuming the earliest anyone will hear from them would be end of October or start of November.


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