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IFS NCI apprenticeship interview 14/06/16

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Minoxia


    Does anyone have any ideas which companies are involved in the Apprenticeships?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Akkav


    This is what I am wondering too. The title Generalist is large position to fill so it would be nice to know which companies are at least involved in the process, and the areas that we will be interviewing for.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Trixie777


    Where is the title Generalist mentioned?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Akkav


    Trixie,
    While the position title is Specialist, we can assume that we will be considered generalists until we have gained the experienced needed to be a specialist. If you look at the applicant info there is a list of jobs you could hold when the course is complete. That with the lack of job descriptions given so far, we can assume that we will be generalists.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Hoochel


    Hey have any of you looked at the new website they have just launched today?ifsapprenticeships.ie/Sectors/FSI
    They are accepting applications on it for all levels now?? Wonder wots the point when they already done the whole advertising and screening process..


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 happyguy91


    Hoochel wrote: »
    Hey have any of you looked at the new website they have just launched today?ifsapprenticeships.ie/Sectors/FSI
    They are accepting applications on it for all levels now?? Wonder wots the point when they already done the whole advertising and screening process..

    This is very strange...it also mentions some of the companies who will be taking on apprentices....is it possible we are being strung along?


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 ryans30


    happyguy91 wrote: »
    This is very strange...it also mentions some of the companies who will be taking on apprentices....is it possible we are being strung along?

    Bit of a joke


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 happyguy91


    Akkav wrote: »
    Trixie,
    While the position title is Specialist, we can assume that we will be considered generalists until we have gained the experienced needed to be a specialist. If you look at the applicant info there is a list of jobs you could hold when the course is complete. That with the lack of job descriptions given so far, we can assume that we will be generalists.

    I don't think we will be considered as generalists because the website states that candidates will be placed into pre-determined roles.

    To be honest this is a bit annoying, as I already work in banking and, if successful in securing an apprenticeship, I would probably get pigeon holed in that area. I do admit that I could be completely wrong, however, the website does suggest otherwise.

    This entire process has been extremely unprofessional to date. Even looking at the staff section on the new website, they have made a mistake with their email addresses, it just states firstname.surname @ ibec .ie for both staff members email address.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Hoochel


    happyguy91 wrote: »
    This is very strange...it also mentions some of the companies who will be taking on apprentices....is it possible we are being strung along?

    I was thinking the same myself, I'd say what we applied for was and still is non-existent and they only have 4 companies on board for their estimate of what 100 candidates this year


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 happyguy91


    Minoxia wrote: »
    Does anyone have any ideas which companies are involved in the Apprenticeships?

    The new website mentions state street, kbc, aib, and bank of America Merrill Lynch so far.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭doc11


    IFS wrote:
    Companies can also place existing employed on the IFS Apprenticeship programme which will provide industry relevant training at no extra cost to the employer.

    So essentially the scheme is just free courses for existing employees of the various companys at the tax payers expense. Hardly what I'd call Appenticeships


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 happyguy91


    doc11 wrote: »
    So essentially the scheme is just free courses for existing employees of the various companys at the tax payers expense. Hardly what I'd call Appenticeships

    A bit ridiculous...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭doc11


    Hoochel wrote: »
    Hey have any of you looked at the new website they have just launched today?ifsapprenticeships.ie/Sectors/FSI
    They are accepting applications on it for all levels now?? Wonder wots the point when they already done the whole advertising and screening process..

    They IFS companys must have been unimpressed with the scheme terms and available talent on show


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Akkav


    Hoochel,
    What's the new website I can only find the original site.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Hoochel


    Akkav wrote: »
    Hoochel,
    What's the new website I can only find the original site.
    Go on the ifsapprenticeships Twitter page and u'll see a tweet they put up yesterday about it


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Trixie777


    I seen many places advertise courses already for next year, that seems to be what they're doing, showing a presence. I wouldn't give up hope yet, not unless our next stage event in November doesn't happen. As for being stuck in banking, they are Financial Services Ireland at IBEC so I imagined the vast majority of places would be in a bank of sorts, not necessarily doing typical banking work. I work in an international bank, in funds. They have a data analytics lab in my building. I'd love to get out of funds and into a data analytics role and would probably end in a funds company first in a data analytics section, but once i get experience as a data analyst in financial services, i can transfer my skills to other sectors. I'm just looking at the broader picture and hoping it will happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 denjaa89


    I have recently done interview with AIB and I think that most financial services companies will look for Data Analyst that have understanding what Teradata is, Data Warehousing, SQL, and some coding skills like Python/Java/Ruby/Perl.

    Just take it easy even if it wont run be grand


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭doc11


    denjaa89 wrote: »
    I have recently done interview with AIB and I think that most financial services companies will look for Data Analyst that have understanding what Teradata is, Data Warehousing, SQL, and some coding skills like Python/Java/Ruby/Perl.

    Just take it easy even if it wont run be grand

    Congratulations on getting a interview. Did you get an interview through the apprenticeships? what kind of background did you have?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 denjaa89


    Thats was jut inteview that I was offered to go through, so its not from NCI just for experience had pleasure doing it. Education is in Business while I work in IT myself


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Kabwarriors


    I had an interview with State Street a few weeks ago but got an email yesterday from Orlando, basically say if I hadn't heard anything now I was unsuccessful in gaining the apprenticeship. I'm just curious if anyone actually did get a job out if it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 happyguy91


    I had an interview with State Street a few weeks ago but got an email yesterday from Orlando, basically say if I hadn't heard anything now I was unsuccessful in gaining the apprenticeship. I'm just curious if anyone actually did get a job out if it.

    Hi Kabwarriors,
    Do you mind letting us know what level apprenticeship you are going for? It looks like the associate roles are the only ones being filled so far.
    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Kabwarriors


    happyguy91 wrote: »
    Hi Kabwarriors,
    Do you mind letting us know what level apprenticeship you are going for? It looks like the associate roles are the only ones being filled so far.
    Thanks

    It was the associate level, someone else I know got the same email I did. I honestly thought my interview went well 45 minutes. I must not have had the experience they were looking for


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    As a lot of us suspected this entire scheme was not well organised or planned out...they recruited us before really knowing if companies would be interested and exactly what companies would be looking for once they were given a pool of candidates to choose from. The fact they have opened it up to internal candidates from companies is the final nail in the coffin for me. I'm just going to forget about it - it seemed to be too good to be true right from the start. ..pity NCI didn't realise. They just wanted the government funding...I'd love to see the pitch the put together to secure that. I have no faith in public sector either so its no surprise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 denjaa89


    Yeah that is what I am doing just taking it easy no matter if I get it or not cause it is being dragged a lot. At the start it stated September is the start date now January and I would not be surprised if it will be dragged into next September.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭doc11


    YellowLead wrote: »
    As a lot of us suspected this entire scheme was not well organised or planned out...they recruited us before really knowing if companies would be interested and exactly what companies would be looking for once they were given a pool of candidates to choose from. The fact they have opened it up to internal candidates from companies is the final nail in the coffin for me. I'm just going to forget about it - it seemed to be too good to be true right from the start. ..pity NCI didn't realise. They just wanted the government funding...I'd love to see the pitch the put together to secure that. I have no faith in public sector either so its no surprise.

    Not the NCI/FSI fault I'm sure the companys were all for it at the initial stages hoping for cheap workers. But paying a grad 35k for a 4 day week worker is fantasy when the open market is cheaper.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Trixie777


    doc11 wrote: »
    Not the NCI/FSI fault I'm sure the companys were all for it at the initial stages hoping for cheap workers. But paying a grad 35k for a 4 day week worker is fantasy when the open market is cheaper.

    But was it not 21k for a grad and 35k for someone with experience?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Trixie777


    YellowLead wrote: »
    As a lot of us suspected this entire scheme was not well organised or planned out...they recruited us before really knowing if companies would be interested and exactly what companies would be looking for once they were given a pool of candidates to choose from. The fact they have opened it up to internal candidates from companies is the final nail in the coffin for me. I'm just going to forget about it - it seemed to be too good to be true right from the start. ..pity NCI didn't realise. They just wanted the government funding...I'd love to see the pitch the put together to secure that. I have no faith in public sector either so its no surprise.

    Where did you hear it has been opened up to internal candidates in the companies?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭doc11


    Trixie777 wrote: »
    Where did you hear it has been opened up to internal candidates in the companies?

    http://www.ifsapprenticeships.ie/Sectors/FSI/IFSA.nsf/vPages/Employers~employers?OpenDocument


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Trixie777


    Thanks for that doc11. I wouldn't mind been kept in my company, if it meant I could get out of my department (funds), although this could make it harder to get placed in other companies as they prefer to recruit internally


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 happyguy91


    Surprise surprise...more delays .....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    happyguy91 wrote: »
    Surprise surprise...more delays .....

    Like you I am not a bit surprised. I think there will be a complete restructuring of what's on offer to both candidates and companies. They may even lose the funding if they are not seen to be fulfilling the obligations set out when they won the contract.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 ryans30


    Joke!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    Just wondering if anybody has any further news on this? I would say it is deferred permanently but just curious if anyone has any inside information.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 happyguy91


    YellowLead wrote: »
    Just wondering if anybody has any further news on this? I would say it is deferred permanently but just curious if anyone has any inside information.

    I actually emailed them last week. Still waiting on a response. Don't expect to hear anything to be honest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 ryans30


    YellowLead wrote: »
    Just wondering if anybody has any further news on this? I would say it is deferred permanently but just curious if anyone has any inside information.

    haha forgot about this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭YourSuperior


    I heard it's sometime in the first quarter. Apart from that piece of info - I'm in the dark unfortunately.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 happyguy91


    So Carol Kenna posted the below to the IFS apprenticeship LinkedIn group....I feel very frustrated right now...I've wasted so much time on this:

    "I'm on the IFS Apprenticeship Shortlist - what's next?

    The shortlist is live for a period of 12 months. Throughout the lifespan of the shortlist you will be contacted if and when your application is of interest to a participating company.
    There is no need to 'check in', we will proactively contact you when there is interest in your file.
    Following the 12 month lifespan of the current shortlist, interested candidates will be asked to re-apply via our website application process in order to be considered for the next shortlist."


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 Hoochel


    Lovely! When did they think up this rule. What a scam of a scheme. They wasted so many people's time typical govt. funded sh1t


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭YourSuperior


    I'd be curious enough to know if anyone actually got a place. I mean there is all this talk of major plans for the IFSC and of course Brexit. It's a sitting duck here. But then again companies are not too pushed about this in my view. There is a huge market out there for employees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭vg88


    So from the 300 at the interview has it been short listed to 44?

    Or are they just farting around?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Waestrel


    I made the shortlist for specialist, but no sign of anything since last year. I was told in December that we would be looking at an early first quarter 2017 start, but we are now in mid feb.

    Has this thing died?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 happyguy91


    H Waestral, we are all in the same boat...as i said last week, this was posted on their LinkedIn group....this process has been very misleading...


    "I'm on the IFS Apprenticeship Shortlist - what's next?

    The shortlist is live for a period of 12 months. Throughout the lifespan of the shortlist you will be contacted if and when your application is of interest to a participating company.
    There is no need to 'check in', we will proactively contact you when there is interest in your file.
    Following the 12 month lifespan of the current shortlist, interested candidates will be asked to re-apply via our website application process in order to be considered for the next shortlist."


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 happyguy91


    moloner4 wrote: »
    So from the 300 at the interview has it been short listed to 44?

    Or are they just farting around?

    Hi Maloner4, where did you hear its been narrowed down to 44? All I know is that I was shortlisted around August last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Waestrel


    happyguy91 wrote: »
    H Waestral, we are all in the same boat...as i said last week, this was posted on their LinkedIn group....this process has been very misleading...


    "I'm on the IFS Apprenticeship Shortlist - what's next?

    The shortlist is live for a period of 12 months. Throughout the lifespan of the shortlist you will be contacted if and when your application is of interest to a participating company.
    There is no need to 'check in', we will proactively contact you when there is interest in your file.
    Following the 12 month lifespan of the current shortlist, interested candidates will be asked to re-apply via our website application process in order to be considered for the next shortlist."

    So the promised jobs, arent really jobs at all, and the whole IFS thing is just the taxpayer doing the role of HR for some banks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭vg88


    Any update from anyone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Waestrel


    yep. Email coming this week i have heard


  • Registered Users Posts: 28 happyguy91


    Waestrel wrote: »
    yep. Email coming this week i have heard

    Hi. Did you hear anything yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭vg88


    I've heard nothing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Waestrel


    happyguy91 wrote: »
    Hi. Did you hear anything yet?

    no


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Waestrel


    Anyone heard anything?


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