Euro 2016 Group B,England v Wales 2pm Lens.

Polo_Mint

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

It was a poor enough free to be honest, a good keeper saves that every time

I think Hart had a Brain Fart

* Excuse the ryhme

ShooterSF

mansize wrote: »

Bret Hart would be quicker in goals...

So would Owen!

Francie Barrett

mansize wrote: »

They were not world class since 96

You mean '66? :pac:

Tomagotchye

****e goal, should have been saved. England look average despite having some good players. Wales not offering much.

Lallana looks alright. Says everything. Sturridge must come on. Take off the rooney midfield experiment

McDermotX

Goal looks worse everytime its replayed. Truely dreadful goalkeeping.......Mignolet-level.

SlickRic

Hodgson is such a spoofer.

Not an ounce of structure or plan about the way England play. It's an exercise in making it up as you go along.

Inept coaching.

Bobby Baccala

Dunphy looks written off in HD

Cypher_sounds

Really hope Woy leaves Sterling on for the 90 he will come good:pac:

mansize

SlickRic wrote: »

Hodgson is such a spoofer.

Not an ounce of structure or plan about the way England play. It's an exercise in making it up as you go along.

Inept coaching.

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear

ERG89

mansize wrote: »

They were not world class since 90

Even then....

SlickRic

also, Joe Hart has been mediocre for a long time now, and absolutely appalling in this tournament.

another spoofer.

Mec27

SlickRic wrote: »

Hodgson is such a spoofer.

Not an ounce of structure or plan about the way England play. It's an exercise in making it up as you go along.

Inept coaching.

They are better than Wales but their qualification recordwas insane.he did good lifting them post world cup

fuzzydunlop85

Kompany bottling it and doesn't blame Hart for the goal on some random US stream I'm watching.

mansize

Mec27 wrote: »

They are better than Wales but their qualification recordwas insane.he did good lifting them post world cup

They had a pathetic qualifying group though

Mec27

They are playing at about the level they could expect to be

SlickRic

mansize wrote: »

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear

they have better players than Wales and Russia.

they should get into the quarter finals without sweating. this idea that the players are terrible just isn't true.

GreNoLi

Does any other country pander to their top club sides as much as England?

Midnight in Paris is a splendid Woodie Allen film.

super_furry

Hodgson is one of the worst managers in international football.

I saw this kind of aimless, clueless set-up during his time as Liverpool manager and the 11 players look like they've been sent out there with no instruction at all. They keep lifting the ball in towards Sterling and Kane in the Wales box and their defence are eating it up.

Blatter

If Wales can get their transitions right in the second half they'll have a great chance of grabbing a second with Bale being released on the counter.

eagle eye

No excuse for calamity Joe. He should not have been beaten by that free kick. Credit to Bale for putting it on target but if there was to be a goal there it should have been coming from a player coming onto the saved ball.

It's not over but I'm not convinced that Hodgson will make the right decisions to get back into this. Harry Kane has to be taken off right now, he is ineffective and not helping the England cause, Raheem Sterling has done nothing either. They have the players on the bench to change things, I think they should take off those two and bring on Sturridge and Vardy.

Polo_Mint

England have been hot and cold over the years

England's FIFA Rankings Table
Year Ranking
1992 5
1993 11
1994 18
1995 21
1996 12
1997 4
1998 9
1999 12
2000 17
2001 10
2002 7
2003 8
2004 8
2005 9
2006 5
2007 12
2008 8
2009 9
2010 6
2011 5
2012 6
2013 13
2014 13
2015 9

Peist2007

Mec27 wrote: »

They are better than Wales but their qualification recordwas insane.he did good lifting them post world cup

He should have been fired at the conclusion of the last World Cup. Clearly well liked by the blazers in the FA

mansize

SlickRic wrote: »

they have better players than Wales and Russia.

they should get into the quarter finals without sweating. this idea that the players are terrible just isn't true.

The best player on the park is Welsh

The only world class player out there is Welsh

alchemist33

GreNoLi wrote: »

Does any other country pander to their top club sides as much as England?

Midnight in Paris is a splendid Woodie Allen film.

Nope, not one player from the English champions playing

Francie Barrett

mansize wrote: »

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear

There are decent players in that England team. That bumbling fool Woy has just managed to make them all look terrible.

I expect that nasty little troll Jack Wilshere to make an appearance and possibly get himself sent off.

Agent Coulson

The old saying that anyone could manage that team because they have so many good players well Hodgson & Wilmots are both proving that is a pile of sh1t of a an old wifes tale.

SlickRic

Sturridge would at last suit how aimless the plan is. he may just take the ball and do something extraordinary.

he's more likely than anyone else in this system.

murpho999

Mec27 wrote: »

They are better than Wales but their qualification recordwas insane.he did good lifting them post world cup

How are they better than Wales?

He was responsible for the World Cup disaster and his Euro qualification group was ridiculously easy.

UnitedIrishman

Both Schmeichel and Oliver Kahn reckon Hart's biggest mistake was putting a wall up.

https://twitter.com/felixwagner86/status/743442158313693184

https://twitter.com/Pschmeichel1/status/743441407059329024

mickmackey1

mansize wrote: »

They had a pathetic qualifying group though

Beat Switz home and away, who now have 4 points.

Harry Palmr

Sturridge and Vardy on, Sterling and Kane off.

martyos121

Sturridge and Vardy on, finally a bit of courage from Roy.

Agent Coulson

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Vardy and Sturridge have to come on for England or Roy is to blame totally.

Called it.

mansize

Vardy and Sturridge - Roy makes the big call

eagle eye

super_furry wrote: »

Hodgson is one of the worst managers in international football.

I saw this kind of aimless, clueless set-up during his time as Liverpool manager and the 11 players look like they've been sent out there with no instruction at all. They keep lifting the ball in towards Sterling and Kane in the Wales box and their defence are eating it up.

I'm criticising the man myself but this is way ott. He has an excellent record as an international football manager and Liverpool or anything he did there has nothing to do with that because Premier league is nothing like international football.

Harry Palmr

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Called it.

Like that required insight or genius!

Peist2007

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Beat Switz home and away, who now have 4 points.

Albania and Romania.

SlickRic

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Sturridge and Vardy on, Sterling and Kane off.

100% the correct decision.

Mushy

Sturridge coming on with Vardy.

The worst thing about that calamity is that that is Englands big competition goalkeeping howler done and dusted.

eagle eye

Fair play Roy, I think you've made the right moves there.

GreNoLi

Do or die now, good to see Vardy.

Agent Coulson

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Like that required insight or genius!

Think I could get the England managers job

DarraghF197

eagle eye wrote: »

Fair play Roy, I think you've made the right moves there.

More made up for the wrong moves in starting them in the first place imo.

Strumms

The right subs on this occasion. I'd be surprised if either Kane or Sterling start the next game. They certainly don't deserve to anyway...

Peist2007

The English fans singing their national anthem during the game is very North Korea like

Agent Coulson

Sturridge ran more in that 30 seconds than he did in the whole season at Liverpool

mansize

No foul by Walker

HalloweenJack

Peist2007 wrote: »

The English fans singing their national anthem during the game is very North Korea like

If Amhran na bhFiann was in English, we'd be doing it too.

Lovely Bloke

the French do it too

Peist2007

HalloweenJack wrote: »

If Amhran na bhFiann was in English, we'd be doing it too.

Doubt it.

Edit: Actually, probably