2016-17 UEFA Champions League

Billy86

astradave wrote: »

I hope he scores a 2 yard tap in in the 97th min of the final that they are already winning 4-0 to win that bet...

Feck that, I hope he has a penalty saved and taps in the rebound.

SlickRic

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Unfortunately football fans ars too deeply entrenched in supporting one or the other of these two players for any real debate or analysis to ever flourish.

Thanks. I just snorted my beer out through my nose at you, of all people, suggesting people are entrenched in their views.

Bravo!

The Talking Bread

Billy86 wrote: »

Feck that, I hope he has a penalty saved and taps in the rebound.

a 97th minute penalty against Leicester (even though the injury time board stated 3 minutes) with Real Madrid 5-0 up resulting from a Ronaldo dive which Schmeicheal gets sent off for and Mahrez has to go in goal when Leicester are down to 9 men and Ronaldo has been "merely a passenger" for the rest of the game and should have been sent off a couple of minutes before after b1tchslapping Vardy!!

fuzzydunlop85

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Yep

Nice one game on then !

The Golden Miller

I see everyone is on the fence in who they want to see win ha

Andersonisgod

SlickRic wrote: »

Thanks. I just snorted my beer out through my nose at you, of all people, suggesting people are entrenched in their views.

Bravo!

And I just snorted a vibrant, smooth and rich new world Shiraz out through my nose at you, of all people, trying to suggest there is somebody more entrenched in their views than you are.

Bravo!!

irishman86

Andersonisgod wrote: »

And I just snorted a vibrant, smooth and rich new world Shiraz out through my nose at you, of all people, trying to suggest there is somebody more entrenched in their views than you are.

Bravo!!

SlickRic wrote: »

Thanks. I just snorted my beer out through my nose at you, of all people, suggesting people are entrenched in their views.

Bravo!

Ye guys really need to learn how to laugh and drink, although I suppose it could be a class thing, peasants :pac:

CalamariFritti

The Talking Bread wrote: »

I wouldn't call Vidal outstanding last night. A bit hyperbole, that.

Maybe. Him and Never were the two Bayern players that stood out for me I should have said. Vidal looked up for it from minute 1. Thought he was very good.

bucketybuck

SlickRic wrote: »

Thanks. I just snorted my beer out through my nose at you, of all people, suggesting people are entrenched in their views.

Bravo!

Considering how often his views and allegiances change I don't think you can label him entrenched.

inforfun

irishman86 wrote: »

I did, I think your incorrect, if anything he gets more assists now than previously

With "he used to do more" i am not just thinking of assists.
Also thinking of leaving 3 defenders behind him in a 40 meter run from his own half. And of course losing that, will result in a few more assists.
He cant do it all by himself anymore and needs to pass more often, where he used to think he could do it (and quite often did) all by himself with his pace and power.

That is not criticism, it is just how i see it.
If i want to criticise him, i ll use other things, mostly not skill related.

irishman86

inforfun wrote: »

With "he used to do more" i am not just thinking of assists.
Also thinking of leaving 3 defenders behind him in a 40 meter run from his own half. And of course losing that, will result in a few more assists.
He cant do it all by himself anymore and needs to pass more often, where he used to think he could do it (and quite often did) all by himself with his pace and power.

That is not criticism, it is just how i see it.
If i want to criticise him, i ll use other things, mostly not skill related.

Im not saying you were giving criticism, I just dont see how substituting a 40 meter run for a assist is less, when the end result is the same. If anything he has grown as a player, Ronaldo always had the ability to get assists like Messi, now he is doing it rather than attempt to do it all alone, thats growth hence more

bucketybuck

irishman86 wrote: »

Ronaldo always had the ability to get assists like Messi,

Ronaldo's number of assists was always one of the highest in the game, he always did get assists comparable to Messi, anybody saying that Ronaldo has now added assists to his game is being foolish.

12 assists this season, 15 last season, 21 the season before that, 14, 12, 15, his assist record is far more than many "creative" legends of the game ever managed.

irishman86

bucketybuck wrote: »

Ronaldo's number of assists was always one of the highest in the game, he always did get assists comparable to Messi, anybody saying that Ronaldo has now added assists to his game is being foolish.

12 assists this season, 15 last season, 21 the season before that, 14, 12, 15, his assist record is far more than many "creative" legends of the game ever managed.

I think hes more likely to get a assist now days, than back in the past as hes grown as a player and sees he doesnt need to do everything himself. I never said he doesnt get assists previously

The Golden Miller

bucketybuck wrote: »

12 assists this season, 15 last season, 21 the season before that, 14, 12, 15, his assist record is far more than many "creative" legends of the game ever managed.

Why is that? Want to expand on this point? Why is the word creative in inverted commas? Are you implying that Ronaldo is a better playmaker than all the other greats of the game, because you think there's some correlation between two yard assists and actual playmaking? It seems to some that goal scoring alone is the only criteria for being one of the best players ever, and assist stats are now the benchmark for true playmaking greatness

bucketybuck

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Want to expand on this point?

Not to a boring gimmick poster who has been doing his sad shtick for years now, no.

citytillidie

Playing tonight
Leicester City (ENG) V Atlético Madrid (ESP) (Agg 0-1)
Real Madrid (ESP) V FC Bayern Munich (GER) (Agg 2-1)

Wednesday Game's
Monaco (FRA) V Borussia Dortmund (GER) (Agg 3-2)
FC Barcelona (ESP) V Juventus (ITA) (Agg 0-3)

The Talking Bread

Oh, CHRISTiano, forgot Real are playing again tonight. Cue countless pages of the same sh1te about Ronaldo. I think the block button may be used tonight!

Fancy Bayern to win or draw on the night to be honest. Real will ship a goal surely against 11 men, question is whether it is one or two. Bayern w/o Hummels, Boateng and, of course, Martinez.

Real could rue not getting a third when dominating last Wednesday

Atletico minus 1 or even 2 in the other surely.

ArmaniJeanss

Any idea which game are TV3 showing? (Even their own website doesn't make it clear).

The Talking Bread

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Any idea which game are TV3 showing? (Even their own website doesn't make it clear).

Leicester game

klose

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Any idea which game are TV3 showing? (Even their own website doesn't make it clear).

The Leicester game, I imagine if it was polled which game the public wanted to see it would be a landslide for the munich Madrid game.

Billy86

Praying for Leicester to squeak through just for the craic of it. I reckon it's got to end tonight, but gas seeing how far they have managed to go all the same and a CL SF would be out of this world (esp if they were to draw Dortmund/Monaco). Given that they've more or less got out of the relegation panic from a month or two back, it's been some ride for their fans.

GavRedKing

Real have only had 5 clean sheets this year in all competitions, 3 of them were the the first 8 games in January.

Real have also scored in every game they've played this season so I'd be expecting goals tonight at both ends.

Lewandoski is expected to start but Bayern are seriously short at the back, Boateng and MArtinez are out and Hummels is expected to miss out too.

GreNoLi

Come on Lesta!

Lord TSC

Genuinely excited to see what Leicester can do tonight. Would love to see the sequel to last year kick on :P

irishman86

Santiago Bernabéu is without a doubt my favourite stadium, looks amazing

CalamariFritti

Both Boateng and Hummels are playing it says?

mickmackey1

C'mon Leicester!!

fuzzydunlop85

Just reminding golden miller of our bet !

Lucas Hood

Vidal what a silly tackle.

ERG89

Bayern on top but nothing to show for it, all too comfortable for Real.
Vidal & Thiago need to be doing more with the ball.

Kitsunegari

Good goal from Saul and great ball from Felipe Luis

wanderer100

It was good while it lasted.

Liamalone

Bye bye Leicester. One nil down

ERG89

Some really sloppy passing at the Bernabeu

irishman86

Greedy

niallo27

Dont bother passing there Ronaldo. Really greedy there he could have killed the tie.

brianregan09

Leicester have been nulified to playing hoof ball and are getting nowhere with it I expect Athletico will push on and batter them in the 2nd half

niallo27

In fairness to Munich they are getting a lot of players in the box but Ronaldo can't go missing chance after chance the other end. Interesting game.

irishman86

niallo27 wrote: »

In fairness to Munich they are getting a lot of players in the box but Ronaldo can't go missing chance after chance the other end. Interesting game.

He missed one clear chance, stop exaggerating. Bayern have had just as clear chances

Dirty Dingus McGee

The away goals rule is taking a lot away from the Bayern v Real Madrid tie.

Without it this game is still in the balance but because Bayern need to score 2 goals it's almost impossible to see them getting back into the tie now.

It really should have been got rid of a long time ago and I've no idea why clubs haven't lobbied UEFA to get rid of it.

dfx-

delighted for the Leicester squad...hopefully Atletico can get more before there's any sniff of a comeback. Should've had a penalty I think too.

ERG89

niallo27 wrote: »

In fairness to Munich they are getting a lot of players in the box but Ronaldo can't go missing chance after chance the other end. Interesting game.

Ribery is slow as Christmas though. Doesn't suit the game their trying to play at all which often ends with Lewandowski out wide too often when he needs to be in the box.
Pretty poor quality in midfield compared to last week. Loads of pure aimless passing under no pressure. Real especially finding a lot of space.

NIMAN

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

The away goals rule is taking a lot away from the Bayern v Real Madrid tie.

Without it this game is still in the balance but because Bayern need to score 2 goals it's almost impossible to see them getting back into the tie now.

It really should have been got rid of a long time ago and I've no idea why clubs haven't lobbied UEFA to get rid of it.

I wouldn't go as far as impossible.

If they score a goal in the 1st 15 or 20mins of the 2nd half, which might happen, then Madrid will get very nervous and anything could happen.

The Talking Bread

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

The away goals rule is taking a lot away from the Bayern v Real Madrid tie.

Without it this game is still in the balance but because Bayern need to score 2 goals it's almost impossible to see them getting back into the tie now.

It really should have been got rid of a long time ago and I've no idea why clubs haven't lobbied UEFA to get rid of it.

"Almost impossible"? It's 2 goals, not 5.

Billy86

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

The away goals rule is taking a lot away from the Bayern v Real Madrid tie.

Without it this game is still in the balance but because Bayern need to score 2 goals it's almost impossible to see them getting back into the tie now.

It really should have been got rid of a long time ago and I've no idea why clubs haven't lobbied UEFA to get rid of it.

I prefer the away goal rule being there, personally. Adds a bit more and makes teams less likely to park the bus away from home.

Still plenty of time to go.

niallo27

irishman86 wrote: »

He missed one clear chance, stop exaggerating. Bayern have had just as clear chances

He had had 3 decent chances. You don't usually get away with giving him that many.

irishman86

niallo27 wrote: »

He had had 3 decent chances. You don't usually get away with giving him that many.

He had one clear chance though. Kroos has had two decent chances why not say he needs to be putting them away?

niallo27

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

The away goals rule is taking a lot away from the Bayern v Real Madrid tie.

Without it this game is still in the balance but because Bayern need to score 2 goals it's almost impossible to see them getting back into the tie now.

It really should have been got rid of a long time ago and I've no idea why clubs haven't lobbied UEFA to get rid of it.

Maybe it is a bit outdated but remember European football in the 90s it was so negative before it was introduced.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Billy86 wrote: »

I prefer the away goal rule being there, personally. Adds a bit more and makes teams less likely to park the bus away from home.

Still plenty of time to go.

I think it has the opposite effect these days as teams realise how valuable away goals are and it causes home teams to be more negative in their approach for fear of conceding one.

niallo27

irishman86 wrote: »

He had one clear chance though. Kroos has had two decent chances why not say he needs to be putting them away?

Because kroos is not one of the most lethal goalscorers that has ever played the game.