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From 3 to 5. Some skullduggery hereDelighted for some of the lads on this thread
:D:D:DAmazing club only barca could do thisMisterAnarchy wrote: »The trolls need to go back under their bridges.
Seriously, give some credit to Barcelona, that was an unreal performance.2nd one was never a penalty, blatant dive by SuarezBrilliant, 'Ronnie' fans fairly upset by that I'd say.Andersonisgod wrote: »Do you believe in miracles?
Sorry lads, after the 3rd goal I had to stop posting. I, like a lot of people on here, could sense something special might have been on the cards and I wanted to soak that in. Like everyone, I was deflated after the Cavani goal, Barcelona's response said it all, the play had gone flat, the atmosphere had fizzled out. To do it at all is a miracle, to do it the way they did by having to score 6 is something beyond divinity. I've never witnessed a sporting occasion like that before, we might never again. You'll always remember where you were at that moment when Sergi Roberto put the ball in the Paris net in the 95th minute. No hyperbole in this post, no exaggeration, tonight everyone on this thread should be posting about Gerard Pique who is everything good and right about Barcelona, they should be posting about Mascherano who is an absolutely warrior, they should be posting about Sergio Busquets who held this together tonight in a way that only Busquets can, they should be posting about Neymar who is the superstar to take over from Messi, they should be posting about Sergi Roberto who will have dreamed of a moment like this at the Camp Nou since he was a boy.
Always Mes Que Un Club.KaiserGunner wrote: »Penalties are literally given for nothing these days, no way was that Suarez one a penalty.The butthurt and premature gloating from some in here earlier made this thread a good read tonight.
The first penalty was a clear one, the second one was a dive, but the defender made the dive plausible because he put his arm across Suarez who took advantage to dive and win the penalty.
Amazing comeback though, best I've ever seen given the fact that at 87 mins it was still 3-1 and they needed 3 goals.The Talking Bread wrote: »this patronising cr$p doesn't make your argument any stronger!!
The game was unbelievable, I thoroughly enjoyed it, was fantastic but people are entitled to debate pivotal moments like this in between the "WOW"s and the "WHAT A GAME" comments!
There is only1 or 2 people here disappointed PSG went out, even those who disputed the decision were happy to see that 7 minutes at the end unfold as PSG were a cowardly, unprofessional eeg1ts as much as Barca were a thrilling, proud and truly courageous ensemble but games and decisions are there to be analysed also.
The "I wish people were more like me and enjoyed matches more and ignored decisions" cr@p is ridiculous and patronising.The first penalty was 100% a penalty.
Regardless that Neymar made a meal of it, which every single professional footballer does nowadays, the defender fell in his way and caused him to change his path and that is a penalty.
Either way, the game had everything and should be just enjoyed and people should celebrate how Barcelona approached it and never gave up.
Just wish people would enjoy games more.
It's the same how every goal scored nowadays gets analysed here and put down to poor keeper, cheating or poor defending and never great attacking play.Of course you can debate decisions but to just focus on 2 incidents and declare that they ruined the game whilst ignoring the enormity or what happened in the match is just very cynical in my opinion.
I just wish people would sometimes not do that and appreciate that the way Barcelona approached the game tonight was always going to lead to the possibilities of penalties.
Either way, we just witnessed one of the greatest comebacks in the history of sport and that should be enjoyed as a whole rather than just sourly focus on minute decisions all the time.The reality is that the referee could have awarded a penalty when Verrati pulled Messi back in the box but didn't. Some you get and some you don't.
I still have to re-watch the Di Maria miss, because apparently thst could have been a spotter too, If that had been given and scored (though Cavani would probably have hit the crossbar with it) it would have been game over.I'm talking about that specific decision. And he cheated again. He got carded for his first dive and the result should have been the same.
This type of excuse getting pegged around:
"Team X did not get penalty in previous incident, oh wait lets dive get one, Justice!"
It was a wonderful display from Neymar & arguably Messi but not Suarez and he shouldn't be praised for his "performance" last night.marklazarcovic wrote: »an awful amount of butt hurt in here after last nights game,of course should their own team have been the 6-1 victors in the same manner they would be heroes .You can discuss any number of specific decisions, but they were not the deciding factor in any way.
You just cannot lose 6-1 (or be 4-1 down and all over the place mentally at the time) and blame the referee or blame 'diving'. You cannot blame the referee for PSG losing their heads from the start and looking shellshocked at halftime.
The game and the pressure was too much for them, good to see that Emery apparently didn't fall into the referee trap in post game comments I believe.
They lost the game with their approach from the very kickoff, they wilted under the pressure and were all over the place, the first and second goal being prime examples falling over themselves, long before the penalty. A penalty to Barcelona in the 90th minute should've been no more than a consolation goal.I never once said they didn't deserve to go through. They had PSG on the ropes for most of the game.
I have been posting this since last night.
But those decisions were huge deciding factors and to claim otherwise is wrong.
Brushing these huge decisions under the rug because overall they deserved it doesn't cut it.
If video technology was present in the game would they have qualified?
Examples of Huge moments in the game:
Was Neymars excellent free kick a deciding factor? Yes it was.
Was Suarez diving and gaining a penalty for his team which they ended up scoring a deciding factor? Yes it was.Brave from Suarez going down so easily for the final penalty.
He was already on a yellow from his earlier slapstick dive, so he knew that if the ref adjudged this one to be another dive he was off and game over Barcelona.The Talking Bread wrote: »To be honest what I found more irritating were the patronising ""I wish people were more like me and enjoyed matches more and ignored decisions" when the discussion of the penalty incident(s) came up post match!
Every post can't be "wow, what a game", "Neymar is a genious", "wow, this is why I love football"!
As I said last night, in more or less these words, The game was astonishing, even if it had ended 3-1 it would have been a fantastic spectacle, I thoroughly enjoyed it, was fantastic and there is absolutely no doubt in anyones mind, not even the most ardent of PSG fans that Barca deserved to qualify given their approach and courage.
There were, from what I seen, only 1 or 2 people here disappointed PSG went out, even those who disputed the decision were happy to see that 7 minutes at the end unfold as PSG were a cowardly, unprofessional eeg1ts as much as Barca were a thrilling, proud and truly courageous ensemble but games and decisions are there to be analysed also.
I just found that there were too many patronising 1diots who wanted to shut down the penalty discussion by saying, more or less, you aren't a real football fan if you just can't "enjoy" the result and forget everything else!Brendan Flowers wrote: »Firstly this isn't me being anti Barcelona. I was delighted to see PSG get knocked out and any team that can't hold onto a 4 goal advantage certain don't deserve to progress in the competition.
But there's been a lot of talk lately in the La Liga megathread about how officials favour Real Madrid and are doing their best to prevent Barca from winning the title. And let's face it, most of these posts have come from AndersonIsGod. Minutes after a questionable decision that he see as anti-Barcelona he's onto Boards making all sorts of claims about conspiracies.
Yet not a word from him since the game on Wednesday night about all the decisions that went in favour of Barcelona.
- The 2nd penalty which I still don't think was a penalty. The first one was a correct call though IMO.
- The penalty that wasn't given to PSG for Mascherano's tackle on Di Maria.
- Neymar kicks Marquinhos which was a legitimate sending off offence.
I've said it before that I don't buy into these notions of big conspiracies in football. Decisions balance themselves out over the course of a season usually. I just find it a bit pathetic when people shout and rave about officials being out to get them when a decision goes against their team, yet blatantly ignore wrong decisions when it favours who they support.Barca got some decisions on Wednesday they shouldn't have. But isn't that the same with every team?
Does anyone remember Gary Neville saying players are correct to dive, and many soccer fans agreed with him.
"I agree with him, except when the team I dislike do it"100% right BF, and the point I always argue against football conspiracies.
If La Liga is rigged towards Real Madrid, why have they only won 1 of the last 8 league titles? Absolute nonsense and typical of football fans in general.
I think instead bad decisions we see just highlight varying degrees of consistency in referees. They are human after all, who make mistakes, some make more than others.Can someone tell me why that piece doesn't mention that Verrati pulled Messi's jersey inside the box, when he was getting ready to shoot?
Can someone tell me why that piece doesn't say that after Verrati was booked he should have been sent off for his next foul?
Every team cheats, every single team.
I watched 3 games like night and they were falling over like skittles. At one stage I thought poor Ander Herrera had been shot, he went down so quickly. He wasn't on his own either, all 6 teams were at it.
Its terrible, and until we get referees who actually grow a pair, these preening, overpaid professionals, will keep on doing it.
I was at under 7 training last weekend and I saw a guy get tackled, go straight down and take a roll. Thankfully the coaches and other players ignored him, but, God it was desperate to watch. And that's the future until these guys get punished - retrospectively if needs be.All teams cheat, all players cheat. That's the bottom line. Cheating isn't just confined to the poster boy of diving, it's claiming a corner or goalkick when you know it's not your ball, it's pretending you didn't foul someone or in pre-goaline tech days that the ball didn't cross the line.
When it goes in favour of your team, while you might still call it for what it is, it doesn't bother you much when your team benefits, so there is little point going on about it so much as if only certain teams or players are guilty of it.Looks like the ref will in fact get a clipping for his dreadful performance
Suarez cheating hasn't helped his cause, I'd say if he had sent him off for second dive rather than rewarding them a nonsense penalty he would have been in the clear
http://www.thesportbible.com/football/news-referee-deniz-aytekin-set-to-be-punished-by-uefa-20170310Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »For all the flack that Barca have taken for supposedly cheating the other night I really hope that from now on every time we see a jersey pull, body check,trip,player being offside deciding to play on etc we hear a load of criticism of them for cheating.Andersonisgod wrote: »Begrudgers! Begrudgers all!Must be on repeat in here but plenty of praise has been given to Barcalona, but every time someone discusses the clear failings of the referee it's "you no lika da barca"Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »But yet some people keep mentioning that Suarez cheated.What he did is no worse than numerous other incidents that happen in every other game.Pivotal moments which decided the game
They are obviously going to be discussed the most
Again this has also been repeated in hereYeah every team has cheats and gets their share of good and bad decisions.
I think some people just have a shoulder chip about Barcelona or dont like them for whatever reason.I think some people like to delude themselves into thinking its a grudge everytime the main talking points in the game are discussed
Fascinating reading through that again and spotting the complete hypocrisy of it all0 -
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ironingbored wrote: »Refereeing was disgraceful last night and Bayern were ripped off. However, last year in Munich, Juventus has a perfectly good goal ruled out for an non-existent offside (could have been 0-3 up) and a clear foul in the lead up to a Bayern goal.
Last week also, as I remember 0 -
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