Euro 2016 - Group E - Belgium vs Ireland, 2 pm, RTE & ITV

Mec27

I think this is Irelands strongest team since 2002/2003 but I am really not optimistic. I expect be outclassed, outran, outmuscled and just dominated.

mikeym

Come on Ireland

alchemist33

Mec27 wrote: »

I think this is Irelands strongest team since 2002/2003 but I am really not optimistic. I expect be outclassed, outran, outmuscled and just dominated.

Me too. We'll be living off scraps but this Belgium team are less than the sum of their parts and may not get much end product for their possession. A draw would be a good result and gives us a chance of getting through.

The Talking Bread

Nuts102 wrote: »

Where did you get the teams usually not out until an hour before kick off.

they were leaked before 11am

Mahony0509

Team announced. All the same except Ward in for Walters.

Mahony0509

Ireland team: Randolph, Coleman, O'Shea, Clark, Ward, Whelan, McCarthy, Hendrick, Brady, Hoolahan, Long.

Godot.

Such a shame Alan Judge is injured he'd have had a great chance of starting today with Walters being out.

Godot.

Mahony0509 wrote: »

Ireland team: Randolph, Coleman, O'Shea, Clark, Ward, Whelan, McCarthy, Hendrick, Brady, Hoolahan, Long.

That will do

FatherTed

I feel a 1-0 win with our goal coming off a set piece.

Godot.

Is it just me that would have Keogh in the team instead of Clark?

Especially as he started a lot of the qualifying campaign

Mahony0509

FatherTed wrote: »

I feel a 1-0 win with our goal coming off a set piece.

Have to remember that Belgium conceded 2 against Norway

Mec27

Our team just lacks a bit of magic and a bit of youth, it is alright imo, players like Hendrick and Randolph could be playing for big sides outside the main European leagues, it is just someone like Hendrick can get more money playing for Derby than he could for some mid ranked European team.

Jelle1880

Courtois; Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Vermaelen, Meunier; Witsel, Dembélé; Hazard, De Bruyne Carrasco; Lukaku.

Quite happy with that team. De Bruyne as a 10 and Hazard/Carrasco on the wings.

Still nervous though, Ireland might not be as stacked in midfield but can still be dangerous going forward.

applehunter

Right call I think.

Mec27

I don't see what Ireland are going to be better at, they seem like better athletes, bigger and faster than our players, and it is not like we have the Barcelona touch to compensate for that.

mzungu

I have a feeling this will be another 1-1 .

SlickRic

Belgium have their actual best attacking 4 starting today.

Wilmots would have to listen to reason in time for today, wouldn't he?

The Talking Bread

Surely betting against Ireland, no matter how likely Belgium are to win, is just a bit a bit sad!. Are people that hung up for a few quid that they think a few euro will mean they wont be that disappointed if we lose! Put it on Morning Suit at 11/10 in the 1.35 at Redcar! It shouldnt lose and you'll have your pints for the day.

There are hundreds of good bets all day that will give you much more profit than backing against your own team! I'd also prefer to enjoy winning from a gamble than just a mere "ah sure, at least i won twenty quid after Fellaini comes on and heads in a 92nd minute winner"!

I just find it so irritating when fans back against their own team ! I am sure there is plenty that disagree though so I am not having a go!

MisterAnarchy

Ward at left back is a huge liability .Can see the Belgians targeting him .

Corholio

Mec27 wrote: »

I don't see what Ireland are going to be better at, they seem like better athletes, bigger and faster than our players, and it is not like we have the Barcelona touch to compensate for that.

Because football works exactly like that :pac:

The Talking Bread

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

Ireland XI - Stephen Ward gets the nod. Randolph, Coleman, O'Shea, Clark, Ward, Whelan, McCarthy, Hendrick, Brady, Hoolahan, Long.

thought so.

Mec27

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Surely betting against Ireland, no matter how likely Belgium are to win, is just a bit a bit sad!. Are people that hung up for a few quid that they think a few euro will mean they wont be that disappointed if we lose! Put it on Morning Suit at 11/10 in the 1.35 at Redcar! It shouldnt lose and you'll have your pints for the day.

There are hundreds of good bets all day that will give you much more profit than backing against your own team! I'd also prefer to enjoy winning from a gamble than just a mere "ah sure, at least i won twenty quid after Fellaini comes on and heads in a 92nd minute winner"!

I just find it so irritating when fans back against their own team ! I am sure there is plenty that disagree though so I am not having a go!

Yeah for endemic gamblers yeah but I'm betting today just because I want to ease the pain a little if we lose. I gamble like once a year.

The Talking Bread

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Ward at left back is a huge liability .Can see the Belgians targeting him .

No he isn't. He is well capable.

Chardee MacDennis

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Surely betting against Ireland, no matter how likely Belgium are to win, is just a bit a bit sad!. Are people that hung up for a few quid that they think a few euro will mean they wont be that disappointed if we lose! Put it on Morning Suit at 11/10 in the 1.35 at Redcar! It shouldnt lose and you'll have your pints for the day.

There are hundreds of good bets all day that will give you much more profit than backing against your own team! I'd also prefer to enjoy winning from a gamble than just a mere "ah sure, at least i won twenty quid after Fellaini comes on and heads in a 92nd minute winner"!

I just find it so irritating when fans back against their own team ! I am sure there is plenty that disagree though so I am not having a go!

why? it wont affect the result, so what's the issue?

Mahony0509

Mahony0509 wrote: »

Team announced. All the same except Ward in for Walters.

Looks like we are packing the midfield
Need a good game out of Whelan
Needs to break up that play

Strumms

The Talking Bread wrote: »

No he isn't. He is well capable.

You have to be having a laugh. He isn't a good left back.. not by any standards and certainly not by International standards... a liability especially at this level...

The Talking Bread

Chardee MacDennis wrote: »

why? it wont affect the result, so what's the issue?

Thats not what i am implying at all. I said exactly why in the post! And I dont want a war of words on the topic so not going to say anything more! Enjoy your twenty quid if we lose!

_Kaiser_

FFS RTE turn down the background music!

The Talking Bread

Strumms wrote: »

You have to be having a laugh. He isn't a good left back.. not by any standards and certainly not by International standards... a liability especially at this level...

I never said as such. You suggested he was a HUGE liability! Hyperbole at its finest! Sadly we forgot to call up all our brilliant left backs. He has been in great form in a title winning team. He also has improved a lot in last couple of years for Ireland.
Our full backs wont get a chance to go forward like other games so Brady at left back wouldnt have had the same impact. There will be a lot more backtracking.

Unearthly

Why does Dunphy rate James McClean so high. Never really performed good for Ireland

Pdoghue

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

FFS RTE turn down the background music!

Absolutely!! Jaysus..

DarraghF197

Me - "Awh yes Carrasco is playing!".

30 seconds later, "Wait **** Carrasco is playing!".

J Mysterio

God, i'm terrified now.

Scorpion Sting

Hopefully Carrasco has an off day as I wouldn't rate Ward at international level.

derm0j073

Ward playing doesn't fill me with confidence but if they go out and play with the same confidence and attacking attitude as the Sweden game, we're in with a shout.

J Mysterio

Unearthly wrote: »

Why does Dunphy rate James McClean so high. Never really performed good for Ireland

Cos he gives absolutely everything (sometimes too much). He can beat a player. He gets to the byline and has a decent cross. He is commited in defence.

The Talking Bread

Jesus, Clark could easily have had a hattrick!

Godot.

J Mysterio wrote: »

Cos he gives absolutely everything (sometimes too much). He can beat a player. He gets to the byline and has a decent cross. He is commited in defence.

I think the best thing you can say about McClean is he works hard and wins corners.

Don't think he is that great at 1 on 1's or putting in good crosses

The Talking Bread

Never get tired of seeing that Hendrick run against Georgia. Fantastic feet

Strumms

The Talking Bread wrote: »

I never said as such. You suggested he was a HUGE liability! Hyperbole at its finest! Sadly we forgot to call up all our brilliant left backs. He has been in great form in a title winning team. He also has improved a lot in last couple of years for Ireland.
Our full backs wont get a chance to go forward like other games so Brady at left back wouldnt have had the same impact. There will be a lot more backtracking.

I never said he was a HUGE liability. Don't misquote me, go back and read my post. I believe he is a liability as I said. That has been proven in the past. Whether that is HUGE or otherwise is irrelevant.

It's not his ability to go forward that I have an issue with but his positional sense is often poor and if he gets isolated one on one he is often done for pace. He is not a natural defender.

I hope he has the game of his life and I am proved wrong but I have watched enough of him going back to when I used to go see him at Dollymount when he was played in his natural position and he excelled up to present day where he is no more than a very average defender at best... to suggest otherwise shows a lack of understanding of the game to be honest.

The Talking Bread

Strumms wrote: »

I never said he was a HUGE liability. Don't misquote me, go back and read my post. I believe he is a liability as I said. That has been proven in the past. Whether that is HUGE or otherwise is irrelevant.

It's not his ability to go forward that I have an issue with but his positional sense is often poor and if he gets isolated one on one he is often done for pace. He is not a natural defender.

I hope he has the game of his life and I am proved wrong but I have watched enough of him going back to when I used to go see him at Dollymount when he was played in his natural position and he excelled up to present day where he is no more than a very average defender at best... to suggest otherwise shows a lack of understanding of the game to be honest.

Sorry, the first poster did, I just assumed I was conversing with same poster! Thats who I was correcting. Then you replied so I didnt look back to previous page to see if it was the same poster!! Pretty standard!

J Mysterio

I'd say they will mark the shîte out of Hoolahan.

Unearthly

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Never get tired of seeing that Hendrick run against Georgia. Fantastic feet

I think he's ready for the Prem if a team takes the punt

The Talking Bread

Unearthly wrote: »

I think he's ready for the Prem if a team takes the punt

He is well ready! No punt about it! He would get into 40-50% of the first 11s at present.
I am sure he will want to step up also

dasdog

Feels strangely like the game against Cameroon, 2002.

Strumms

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Sorry, the first poster did, I just assumed I was conversing with same poster! Thats who I was correcting. Then you replied so I didnt look back to previous page to see if it was the same poster!! Pretty standard!

It's not pretty standard... if it was standard it would be like an asylum with people not knowing who they were talking to or quoting or what the **** was going on... but it's like an asylum anyway so it probably doesn't matter...

Anyway COYBIG ! Ward to score the winner... 😛

Mec27

just had my pre match shower, if we win im on a flight to paris tonight

Texas Jack

Evens on Belgium a veritable gift from the gambling gods

Mortgage job

Lump job

The Talking Bread

dasdog wrote: »

Feels strangely like the game against Cameroon, 2002.

Nah, game against Cameroon was all "Roy Keane this, Roy Keane that". It was also at 7/8am on a Saturday morning!! I remember working as a very young lad in a car wash and running in and out checking the score, doing a half arsed job on any car that came in, and not feeling any guilt because they are sitting in a carwash on a Saturday morning while the world cup is going on!!

J Mysterio

Texas Jack wrote: »

Evens on Belgium a veritable gift from the gambling gods

Mortgage job

Lump job

Haha. Stupid bet, I hope you lose.