Slovakia v England and Russia v Wales 8 PM on ITV, ITV4, RTE 2, TV3 (phew)

jacool

Henderson over hits every pass, then under hits every set piece - can't blame the ball, clearly.
Clyne, Dier and Hardy are playing well - the rest of them look like headless chickens.
Can't judge Hart - don't even know if he'll have to come out second half.

RobertKK

Thank God those vuvuzelas never caught on, don't know what the South Africans were thinking with that noise, when it is fans shouting and singing that gives the atmosphere.

AdamD

~Rebel~ wrote: »

There's such a strong narrative around Wilshire - "he doesn't lose the ball", "our most dynamic attacker", "best passer in the country"....is any of it even close to being true? He's a decent player, but to be honest he's awfully slow, and even just on the ball it looks like he can't quite get his legs to do what he wants them to. When there's a bit of chaos around him in the opposition half, he looks a bit lost.

I actually much prefer him in that deep playmaking role Roy has used him in in the past, where he has more time to look up and pick a pass, with the field in front of him.

Hes just having a poor game, people are reading way too much into it.

briany

"15 seconds!"

Code for, "Eamon, Shut the f**k up."

~Rebel~

AdamD wrote: »

Hes just having a poor game, people are reading way too much into it.

He's been the same every time I watch him over the past 2 years.

The only times i've been impressed by him in that time are when he's played deeper. When he receives the ball under pressure he's unconvincing, which is vital if he wants to play in that attacking creative role.

Paully D

Roberto Martinez giving out about the space between Russia's CB's on ESPN. A subject matter expert on the issue. :pac:

citytillidie

Skid X wrote: »

Odd to see football on RTE2, TV3, ITV, ITV Wales, ITV2 and ITV4 at the same time.

ITV3 should show a split screen of the two games, for completeness.

Only because ITV4 is nation wide and not region split.

Francie Barrett

Deleted User wrote: »

They really are brilliant. Great to hear fans singing in grounds. Such a rare thing nowadays...


...but wait??? is it possible that most of these fans are not stuffed into bangor or TNS ground at the weekend or have never been at at a LOW match?? Boooooooo-urns - booooooo-urns :P :pac:

Clearly a load of event junkies!

Skid X

Welsh Megaman wrote: »

Don't forget S4C

Ha, schoolboy error there :)

Canadel

Dele Alli for Lallana and Rooney for Henderson and that's England's best team.

Kane as super-sub.

JustTheOne

Is duff on pills?

MadVillainy

England have been pretty impressive, better than the likes of Germany and France so far. Personally, would be starting Clyne, Henderson, Vardy and Sturridge in the future.

PeterTheEighth

I timed it. Four minutes coverage at half time.

"Back after a SHORT break" indeed.

Irish_rat

Wales could still lose this as daft as that sounds

Debil

It's very pleasant altogether watching Russia take a beating. Thanks, Wales. Keep up the good work!

GreNoLi

'Eh...ehm...eh....ehm'.

Ol' Donie

Want someone to bang in four, for once.

C'mon Bale. Lets do this.

GreNoLi

Hamsik one of the most overrated players in football today.

That_Guy

The Welsh midfield are so good

AllGunsBlazing

~Rebel~ wrote: »

There's such a strong narrative around Wilshire - "he doesn't lose the ball", "our most dynamic attacker", "best passer in the country"....is any of it even close to being true? He's a decent player, but to be honest he's awfully slow, and even just on the ball it looks like he can't quite get his legs to do what he wants them to. When there's a bit of chaos around him in the opposition half, he looks a bit lost.

I actually much prefer him in that deep playmaking role Roy has used him in in the past, where he has more time to look up and pick a pass, with the field in front of him.

Looked a great prospect as a teenager but he suffered a horrible run of injuries which seems to have robbed him of that early zeal.

Irish_rat

Bale makes Russia look like an under 12 team

Johner

Wilshere has been awful.

Welsh Megaman

Good block from Chester

PeterTheEighth

Seems like Russia are persisting with the 2-1-7 formation.

Johner

Smalling lol. Always one of those in him, so lucky!

Knex*

Canadel wrote: »

Dele Alli for Lallana and Rooney for Henderson and that's England's best team.

Kane as super-sub.

Not a single wide player then, though? Can't see how that would work. Everyone would want to be in the same part of the pitch.

sligeach

Smalling was blessed!

~Rebel~

Canadel wrote: »

Dele Alli for Lallana and Rooney for Henderson and that's England's best team.

Kane as super-sub.

No Lallana in their best team? He's been amongst their best performers this tournament thus far imo. In that midfield role i'd have Lallana over Rooney every day of the week to be honest.

If it's a case of one off a lone striker, then i'd go for Rooney, but as long as there's 2 up, Rooney's best assets are all negated.

Certainly wouldn't have Wilshire ahead of either of them though.

patmac

Oh how we cheered when we drew Wales in the World Cup qualifiers.

Billy86

GreNoLi wrote: »

Hamsik one of the most overrated players in football today.

He's the Slovakian Wayne Rooney (or Steven Gerrard, to be more specific) - does some incredible highlight reel stuff here and there, but disappears for huge chunks and doesn't always have great split-second intelligence when it comes to doing the right thing at the right time, at high pace/in the blink of an eye.

Welsh Megaman

Unlucky Bale

alchemist33

Wales are actually sloppy in attack. Should be four up

Gbear

Clyne showing agaisnt Weiss there that you don't have to leg it all the way out of the stadium after he checks inside.

Mec27

I thought Ireland were unimaginative until I saw Russia playing.

Iused2likebusts

Johner wrote: »

Smalling lol. Always one of those in him, so lucky!

Smalling and cahill will cost England when it gets to the business end of the tournament.

GreNoLi

The Duda abides.

Mr.Nice Guy

patmac wrote: »

Oh how we cheered when we drew Wales in the World Cup qualifiers.

Yeah I was just thinking that. On this kind of form they'd beat us handily. Ramsey, Bale and Allen are bossing it.

Knex*

Jaysus. Like a cross between Sinead O'Connor and The Blair Witch calling out Rooney's sub appearance there.

Francie Barrett

Imagine a Slovakian goal now.

Welsh Megaman

Free Kick to Wales

~Rebel~

Mec27 wrote: »

I thought Ireland were unimaginative until I saw Russia playing.

To be fair to them, they're missing the bulk of their first choice midfield (and best players).

mansize

Why is the match on ITV and itv2 - it seems to be the same broadcast?

Skid X

Still waiting for England to go behind in St Etienne so I can make an oblique reference to them being in a bad way.

Mec27

~Rebel~ wrote: »

To be fair to them, they're missing the bulk of their first choice midfield (and best players).

Yeah Dzagoev and Denosov, really missing them.

~Rebel~

gah, Rooney - stop doing that stupid 'loooong lofted ball to the fullback' thing. it accomplishes nothing. It takes so long to get there, that even if it finds a man (which it often doesn't) the opposition have an age to reorganize and completely isolate the receiver so he can't do anything once he gets it.

Knex*

Henderson has his engine back, but his final ball has been rusty. Did better that time.

Billy86

~Rebel~ wrote: »

gah, Rooney - stop doing that stupid 'loooong lofted ball to the fullback' thing. it accomplishes nothing. It takes so long to get there, that even if it finds a man (which it often doesn't) the opposition have an age to reorganize and completely isolate the receiver so he can't do anything once he gets it.

It's OK, he's Wayne Rooney, he'll good-as-never be called on that his entire career.

derm0j073

Somewhat elderly defenders. :-)

mansize

I really like Joe Allen's work rate this eve

mansize

Give my hope Joe Allen