Euro 2016 - N.I. vs Germany & Ukraine vs Poland - RTE, TV3, BBC, 5 pm

trashcan

Red Kev wrote: »

Italy failed to win any of their group games in Spain in 1982 but went on to win the tournament.

Second round match of Italy v Brazil (3-2) is on youtube and worth a look if anyone has a couple of hours to kill.

Remember watching that match and being devastated. Brazil looked unbeatable until that game. They played some fabulous attacking football in that tournament, including that game, but Italy caught them with some sucker punches.

Iused2likebusts

trashcan wrote: »

Remember watching that match and being devastated. Brazil looked unbeatable until that game. They played some fabulous attacking football in that tournament, including that game, but Italy caught them with some sucker punches.

That game is my first footballing memory. Careless passing amongst the back four cost Brazil. Socrataes and Falcao got great goals.

Flint Fredstone

Green Fella wrote: »

Lieing down and dieing sounds a bit like Ireland against Belgium, and we got a serious hiding. N Ireland done very well today, to slag them now for losing 1-0 to Germany really is pathetic stuff. Im afraid its time to accept they are a better team than us. They proved it in qualifying and are proving it at the tournament.

No they didn't. If Germany scored 7 today, nobody could deny they weren't worth it. Just one of those weird games where nothing would go in for Germany. It certainly wasn't down to N.I playing well, except McGovern obviously.

nehe milner skudder

namloc1980 wrote: »

Group F could easily produce a runner up on 3 points.

And whoever that may be doesn't deserve to progress. I want winners

Shanotheslayer

nehe milner skudder wrote: »

And whoever that may be doesn't deserve to progress. I want winners

3 points makes somebody a winner.....

Unless of course 3 draws. But that's not the case.

Elmer Blooker

Red Kev wrote: »

Italy failed to win any of their group games in Spain in 1982 but went on to win the tournament.

Second round match of Italy v Brazil (3-2) is on youtube and worth a look if anyone has a couple of hours to kill.

Some half time trivia.
In the 1986 WC Belgium scraped out their group in third place with 3 points and then went all the way to the semi final when they lost 2-0 to Maradona.
In 1990 Argentina finished third with 3 points and got to the final.

DubDani

If NI make it through, which now looks highly likely due to the Turkish result, then they will most likely meet France next.

Fr Tod Umptious

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

Some half time trivia.
In the 1986 WC Belgium scraped out their group in third place with 3 points and then went all the way to the semi final when they lost 2-0 to Maradona.
In 1990 Argentina finished third with 3 points and got to the final.

Back then a win was only worth 2 points.

This is the first 24 team tournament where a win is worth 3

Fr Tod Umptious

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Back then a win was only worth 2 points.

This is the first 24 team tournament where a win is worth 3

USA 94?

Didn't we end up on 4 points?

Dirty Dingus McGee

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

Some half time trivia.
In the 1986 WC Belgium scraped out their group in third place with 3 points and then went all the way to the semi final when they lost 2-0 to Maradona.
In 1990 Argentina finished third with 3 points and got to the final.

In those days a win was worth only 2 points so both those teams in today terms they got 4 points.

I'd change the format of the tournament to 20 teams with 4 groups of 5 and top 2 in each go through, it would add a bit of cut to the opening round, get rid of 4 poorer teams and wouldn't reward failure like potentially getting 3 draws or just winning 1 game out of 3 and still progressing does.

Dr Crayfish

The North are through. Well done. Who will they likely be facing? It's a shame Ireland probably wont win a game but I'm happy for the North.

DubDani

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

The North are through. Well done. Who will they likely be facing? It's a shame Ireland probably wont win a game but I'm happy for the North.

Most likely France.

trashcan

No third place team on 4 points yet. Bit of a surprise.

Benimar

trashcan wrote: »

No third place team on 4 points yet. Bit of a surprise.

Slovakia are.

smileyj1987

DubDani wrote: »

Most likely France.

Could be wales also

namloc1980

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

The North are through. Well done. Who will they likely be facing? It's a shame Ireland probably wont win a game but I'm happy for the North.

Wales (if Ireland OR Sweden win) otherwise France.

trashcan wrote: »

No third place team on 4 points yet. Bit of a surprise.

Slovakia?

trashcan

Benimar wrote: »

Slovakia are.

Ooops:o Thought the RTE graphic there showed all the teams on 3 points.

Elmer Blooker

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

The North are through. Well done. Who will they likely be facing? It's a shame Ireland probably wont win a game but I'm happy for the North.

Mixed feelings. Its a toss up between Ukraine and Russia for the worst side in the competition and N.I. are in the last 16 because they were lucky to be in the same group as Ukraine ... not to mention that bizarre match today against Germany! Hopefully we can be as lucky tomorrow!

DubDani

smileyj1987 wrote: »

DubDani wrote: »

Most likely France.

Could be wales also

According to statistics 68% chance of it being France and 28% chance of it being Wales. Wales only if both third placed teams from Group E & F qualify for the next round. If none or only one of them qualifies it is France.

namloc1980

DubDani wrote: »

According to statistics 68% chance of it being France and 28% chance of it being Wales. Wales only if both third placed teams from Group E & F qualify for the next round. If none or only one of them qualifies it is France.

And the other 4%?

SEPT 23 1989

Colossal achievement for a country with only 40 professionals to pick from

All the players gave 100% in every match to get there

We need the same tomorrow

DubDani

namloc1980 wrote: »

DubDani wrote: »

According to statistics 68% chance of it being France and 28% chance of it being Wales. Wales only if both third placed teams from Group E & F qualify for the next round. If none or only one of them qualifies it is France.

And the other 4%?

Those were in case they managed to get 2nd in the group. The below link actually gives some insight:

http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/soccer/euro-2016-who-will-northern-ireland-face-if-they-reach-the-last-16-741113.html

Ol' Donie

trashcan wrote: »

Ooops:o Thought the RTE graphic there showed all the teams on 3 points.

I think you assumed the figure on the right was point total, as it always, always is.

RTE have changed that for this tournament, in a startling example of changing sh*t just for the sake of it.

edgecutter

Green Fella wrote: »

Lieing down and dieing sounds a bit like Ireland against Belgium, and we got a serious hiding. N Ireland done very well today, to slag them now for losing 1-0 to Germany really is pathetic stuff. Im afraid its time to accept they are a better team than us. They proved it in qualifying and are proving it at the tournament.

Hate to bring this back up, but I feel you need to change your opinion now. COYBIG.

An Ciarraioch

Ol' Donie wrote: »

I think you assumed the figure on the right was point total, as it always, always is.

RTE have changed that for this tournament, in a startling example of changing sh*t just for the sake of it.

That's the European manner of displaying tables - have seen similar in the Football Italia magazine. Our victory eliminates Turkey, so Wales vs NI.

Ol' Donie

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

That's the European manner of displaying tables - have seen similar in the Football Italia magazine. Our victory eliminates Turkey, so Wales vs NI.

That's the European way?

Right, I vote out.