Euro 2016 Group E, Ireland v Italy & Sweden v Belgium, 8PM RTE, TV3, ITV & ITV 4

paulie21

Well Its boom or bust time, a win we're through to the last 16, lose or draw we're out. Italy are guaranteed to top the table and are expected to make several changes as they'll have one eye on Spain. Sweden can also progress with a win while Belgium need a draw to be sure of progression

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Come on Ireland!

Osmosis Jones

pudzey101

coleman captain ??

Arthur Daley

Whelan dropped, but not McCarthy. Mmmm

Diabhal Beag

Big ryl up top? Ping some diagonals and we're through.

paulie21

4-4-2?

JustTheOne

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

That's a piss poor selection if true.

Arthur Daley

Brave to drop O'Shea as well as Clarke

Benimar

Arthur Daley wrote: »

Whelan dropped, but not McCarthy. Mmmm

Can't fathom that at all.

Zeek12

Both centre halves dropped. Let's hope Duffy is ready for this!!

eh i dunno

Is it 442 or 451 with long on the right wing?

Kerrydude1981

Its all up to Jeff to create stuff

Turtyturd

Comfortable win for Italy which will feel even more annoying after just watching four teams fight tooth and nail for a result.

enzo roco

pudzey101 wrote: »

coleman captain ??

Excellent choice.

Id guess he'll get another assist.
Go on Seamus

ERG89

Italy: Sirigu; Barzagli, Bonucci, Ogbonna; Florenzi, Sturaro, Thiago Motta, Bernardeschi, De Sciglio; Zaza, Immobile

enzo roco

JustTheOne wrote: »

That's a piss poor selection if true.

Ha, good one.
We have to win.

What team would you pick to win???
Cannot wait for your fabulous reply!!!!

JustTheOne

enzo roco wrote: »

Ha, good one.
We have to win.

What team would you pick to win???
Cannot wait for your fabulous reply!!!!

Yes we have to win so we leave out our most creative player.

Makes sense.

Elmer Blooker

shyte! Zaza is playing. McClean will have to kick him in the first minute so Conte will take him off pronto!

ThunbergsAreGo

Sham of a team tbh

Corholio

enzo roco wrote: »

Excellent choice.

Id guess he'll get another assist.
Go on Seamus

Hopefully he performs much better than the last match, assist aside.

GreNoLi

Such a shame for Walters.

Iused2likebusts

That's an odd selection. No way mccarthy deserves to start ahead of whelan.

DDC1990

So if we win we play France right?

enzo roco

JustTheOne wrote: »

Yes we have to win so we leave out our most creative player.

Makes sense.

So youre only input is to play Hoolahan???

I'm guessing he'll come on with 30 to go. This debate was had in October, about wes playing games within days of eachother. So fatigue is obviously a factor

citytillidie

As it stands Group E 3rd place is out so here is what happens draws will not get 3rd place through games need to be won.

If Italy and Belgium win or games are drawn
Swizerland
Poland

Croatia
Portugal

Wales
Turkey

Hungary
Belgium

Germany
Slovakia

Italy
Spain

France
Northern Ireland

England
Iceland

Ireland and Sweden win

Swizerland
Poland

Croatia
Portugal

Wales
Northern Ireland

Hungary
Sweden

Germany
Slovakia

Italy
Spain

France
Ireland

England
Iceland

Ireland & Belgium win
Swizerland
Poland

Croatia
Portugal

Wales
Northern Ireland

Hungary
Belgium

Germany
Slovakia

Italy
Spain

France
Ireland

England
Iceland

Sweden and Italy win
Swizerland
Poland

Croatia
Portugal

Wales
Northern Ireland

Hungary
Sweden

Germany
Slovakia

Italy
Spain

France
Belgium

England
Iceland

Last one the can change the draw
If Ireland and Sweden win but Ireland out score Sweden by 2 clear goals

Switzerland
Poland

Croatia
Portugal

Wales
Northern Ireland

Hungary
Ireland

Germany
Slovakia

Italy
Spain

France
Sweden

England
Iceland

enzo roco

Corholio wrote: »

Hopefully he performs much better than the last match, assist aside.

The last match, you mean against Belgium. I dont think any Irish player could say they played well

madcabbage

DDC1990 wrote: »

So if we win we play France right?

It seems that way, or beat the snot out of Italy and hope we beat Slovakia on GD?

PTH2009

DDC1990 wrote: »

So if we win we play France right?

Croatia

We're not going to win tbh

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

No need to drop both centre halves for a game of this importance, O Shea should be included, just do Duffy in for Clarke. I would have played Meyler or Quinn instead of McCarthy because he doesn't seem fit/has played terribly. Whelan has done well and doesn't deserve to be dropped. Would probably go with Keane instead of Murphy but he's probably more effective as an impact sub.
I think Long playing in probably a forward midfield role is a good call.

We only have a punchers chance of the win. But once we put in a better performance than against Belgium I'll take some comfort. Roy talking about getting stuck in at the press conference earlier is the attitude they need to bring onto the pitch tonight.

JustTheOne

enzo roco wrote: »

So youre only input is to play Hoolahan???

I'm guessing he'll come on with 30 to go. This debate was had in October, about wes playing games within days of eachother. So fatigue is obviously a factor

He seemed fine in the press conference the other day and up for it.

It's a bad team. Murphy ward and mcarthy have no business been there for a start.

Johner

PTH2009 wrote: »

Croatia

We're not going to win tbh

It's France.

xtal191

PTH2009 wrote: »

Croatia

We're not going to win tbh

Croatia play Portugal, we play France

Zeek12

ERG89 wrote: »

Italy: Sirigu; Barzagli, Bonucci, Ogbonna; Florenzi, Sturaro, Thiago Motta, Bernardeschi, De Sciglio; Zaza, Immobile

That defence still looks very strong! Motta a decent player to introduce too. Tough job ahead

SantryRed

Looks like Italy sticking to a 3-5-2 anyways.

Green Fella

Why is O'Shea dropped. I've never been his biggest fan but **** me throwing Keogh and Duffy in at the deep end here??! O'Shea has been solid! I see Bonucci and Barzalgi are also starting for Italy! I cant bear the tension. O'Neill is right to put Long and Murphy up I think, but McCarthy should be out of there. Hoolahan probably come on 2nd half, he was poor the last day and doesnt have the legs for full 90 I'd say

Ive heard Italy dont really give 2 ****s about this game, if they sit back and hit us on the counter I just cant see how we win this, but COME ON IRELAND

Bounty Hunter

Coleman----Duffy----Keogh

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Ward
Brady--Hendrick--McCarthy--McClean

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Long

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Murphy

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Said it in the Ireland thread but honestly looking at that it isn't the worst. Long has been isolated and maybe Murphy will free him up to get a few more chances plus its an extra striker so at least we seem to be going for it. McCarthy hasn't been great but he's our best midfielder and a lot of people would tell you him and Whelan play the same role so maybe without Whelan in the team he can now play his Everton role for Ireland. Would love Hoolihan but it isn't shocking to see him not start 3 consecutive games in a short period plus he could be handy off the bench. It's surprising that both CBs are changed but tbh I dont feel the standard of our CBs have changed at all quality wise and maybe these lads will be out to prove a point (that they should be first choice).

Green Fella

Zeek12 wrote: »

That defence still looks very strong! Motta a decent player to introduce too. Tough job ahead

Very experienced and alot of top class players in the squad. Thought El Sharaway might start

murpho999

O'Neill team selection looks a bit desperate to me.

Big roll of the dice.

Mr.Nice Guy

I can't make sense of that team at all. Why was O'Shea dropped? Why was Whelan dropped? No Hoolahan?

McClean isn't good enough at this level and Murphy has been a constant flop.

Hope I'm wrong but I think that team is nailed on to lose by two goals.

I'm stunned by that line-up.

Richard Hillman

This team is a sackable offence if it doesnt pay off.

Agent Coulson

At least Given wasn't given a game.



O'Neill might be a good man manager but he is now a dinosaur in modern football terms.

BunkMoreland

Well McCarthy wouldn't be fatigued for sure

enzo roco

JustTheOne wrote: »

He seemed fine in the press conference the other day and up for it.

It's a bad team. Murphy ward and mcarthy have no business been there for a start.

Fine in the press conference??? So therefore he is capable of 90 minutes against Italy?

We know why murphy is playing, the ball is going to be aimed at him. Long cant do it up there on his own against this opposition, well thats what the management think anyway.

I dont know why Ward made the squad, I agree there but Oneill must love him, along with Trap.

SEPT 23 1989

Eight Italians with a point to prove

Arthur Daley

Be doing well to get the draw here. Hope Ireland prove the cynics wrong

enzo roco

Richard Hillman wrote: »

This team is a sackable offence if it doesnt pay off.

Overreaction much???

This group was always going to be tough, but if they lose now, Oneill goes??? Even though he just got a new contract.

Ben Gadot

Haha, MON was quite short with O'Donoghoe there.

Agent Coulson

Ben Gadot wrote: »

Haha, MON was quite short with O'Donoghoe there.

Not new there to be honest.

DDC1990

Ben Gadot wrote:

Haha, MON was quite short with O'Donoghoe there.

"Can you go through those changes with me?"

"No, I don't have the time to be honest".

Ol' Donie

Lads, I'm scared.