Euro 2016 - Round of 16 - England vs Iceland, 8 pm, RTE, ITV

_Kaiser_

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Shearer pulling no punches in even his first sentence!

adox wrote: »

Shearer speaking some home truths.

mansize wrote: »

Shearer ripping them a new one

Well, that escalated quickly!

Mr. Farage

BBC still not telling it like it is. Blaming the tactics when the players are not good enough.

Ulysses Gaze

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Shearer pulling no punches in even his first sentence!

Shearer rips into England after they crash out of every tournament.

Nothing new there.

Stephen15

I'm starting to think would it be better for England to pick a team of league 1 and league 2 players would they do better in major tournaments they are disgrace to their country.

BorneTobyWilde

So Iceland were not excellent, England were crap /
I don't think so. Iceland were excellent.

vicwatson

Did Ferdinand say Ireland too? LOLZ

AllGunsBlazing

The same narrative being formed on bbc. It's all Roy's fault.......

Harry Angstrom

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Shearer pulling no punches in even his first sentence!

It's about time that somebody on the English channels said what's what. Far too much inane rubbish spoken by English panellists who don't want to offend their buddies.

Mr.Nice Guy

Didn't Jermaine Jenas tip England to win the tournament?

elefant

Mr. Farage wrote: »

BBC still not telling it like it is. Blaming the tactics when the players are not good enough.

They're sticking it to them too to be fair to them!

Berserker

Berserker wrote: »

You're so original, NOT!

says the dude using a line from 20 years ago love it

mikeym

So far in the qualifying England topped an easy group and were in a mediocre group consisting of Slovakia,Russia and Wales.

And played an Iceland side who were in the Euros for the first time ever.

They havent exzactly played a world class international side but they still lost to Iceland.

Most of those England players are overrated and over paid.

tanko

Jermaine Jenas knows it all now, what an imbecile. Just let Shearer talk, this is great stuff.

Ulysses Gaze

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

The same narrative being formed on bbc. It's all Roy's fault.

Easy to blame the guy who's just resigned.

Much more difficult to admit the players are not up to scratch.

deaddonkey15

Bageaux Cannes wrote: »

Revelling in Joe Harts misery here, what a totally unlikeable person. Only gets the no1 shirt due to the club he plays for and his looks.

What's so unlikeable about him?

mansize

Shearer is livid

adox

Mr. Farage wrote: »

BBC still not telling it like it is. Blaming the tactics when the players are not good enough.

Meh, over simplistic. They are better than they showed tonight. They are right in what they say.

Shearer also criticising the players

BorneTobyWilde

Milner should have come on to the bitch at some point during game. They lacked steel.

Mr. Farage

Shearer won't work for the BBC any more after that.

AllGunsBlazing

Fakkin hell! Shearer is running on the sack here!

mansize

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Didn't Jermaine Jenas tip England to win the tournament?

He did. The idiot. I prefer him in Corrie

Ol' Donie

Shearer just said the players are not as good as they think they are.

To be fair.

Dick phelan

When are England going to accept they aren't a top team? They always act like they are Germany or France, fact is England record over the last several tournaments is awful, last time they won a KO game in a major championship was Ecuador a decade ago, They finished bottom of the group at the last WC, are they so deluded they honestly thought in the space of 2 years they would win, You keep hearing about the supposed great young players England have, Del Ali, Sterling, Kane, Dier ect, compare that to Germanys young players Kimmich, Draxler, Sane those are future world class players. Englands main problem is money, there players get paid similar wages to the true world class players, Sterling cost City 50m. were he from Croatia he'd have cost 10m.

mansize

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Milner should have come on to the bitch at some point during game. They lacked steel.

More babestation???

theoneeyedman

Hodgson is a spoofer, a clever spoofer, but a spoofer nonetheless. Was found out at Liverpool, possibly the one big job he got at club level. Took on a job that nobody really wanted, and suited the FA as he wouldn't rock the boat and cause controversy. He pandered to media, refused to make tough decisions, (playing Rooney who is a busted flush, all of Kane, Rooney, Vardy/ sturridge), and was an absolute disaster. England were a disorganised rabble, and he then cowered out by jumping ship rather than facing the music.
It's great
The players **** the pants tonight, lack real quality too.

deaddonkey15

Mr. Farage wrote: »

BBC still not telling it like it is. Blaming the tactics when the players are not good enough.

What? Their players are easily good enough to beat Iceland.

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE

AllGunsBlazing

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Shearer just said the players are not as good as they think they are.

To be fair.

And pissed on the Premier League's campfire for good measure!

adox

Mr. Farage wrote: »

Shearer won't work for the BBC any more after that.

He will.

DeanAustin

Dick phelan wrote: »

When are England going to accept they aren't a top team? They always act like they are Germany or France, fact is England record over the last several tournaments is awful, last time they won a KO game in a major championship was Ecuador a decade ago, They finished bottom of the group at the last WC, are they so deluded they honestly thought in the space of 2 years they would win, You keep hearing about the supposed great young players England have, Del Ali, Sterling, Kane, Dier ect, compare that to Germanys young players Kimmich, Draxler, Sane those are future world class players. Englands main problem is money, there players get paid similar wages to the true world class players, Sterling cost City 50m. were he from Croatia he'd have cost 10m.

Say whatever you like and there is a lot of truth in the above but every day of the week England should be beating Iceland.

~Rebel~

Mr. Farage wrote: »

BBC still not telling it like it is. Blaming the tactics when the players are not good enough.

He mentioned it after alright. But of course the tactics are also a huge part of the problem.

Your player quality gives you your base level. Your tactics should be what elevate you.

Even if England's players aren't as good as they think, they're still - to a man - better than Iceland's. But Iceland actually had a plan, and had tactics which they implemented to perfection. Had England done the same, they'd have run out easy winners.

Harry Angstrom

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

Fakkin hell! Shearer is running on the sack here!

RTE will sign him up to replace John Giles after he gets dumped by the BBC

chupacabra

Sturridge woeful, Sterling woeful. Surprise surprise. :rolleyes:

Kenjataimu

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Milner should have come on to the bitch at some point during game. They lacked steel.

:pac:

theoneeyedman

Hodgson is a spoofer, a clever spoofer, but a spoofer nonetheless. Was found out at Liverpool, possibly the one big job he got at club level. Took on a job that nobody really wanted, and suited the FA as he wouldn't rock the boat and cause controversy. He pandered to media, refused to make tough decisions, (playing Rooney who is a busted flush, all of Kane, Rooney, Vardy/ sturridge), and was an absolute disaster. England were a disorganised rabble, and he then cowered out by jumping ship rather than facing the music.
It's great
The players **** the pants tonight, lack real quality too.

Dick phelan

The exact same will happen in 2 years, England have a piss easy qualifying group, they'll top it and start thinking there top contenders, once there knocked out in the last 16 again they'll be again wondering how there premier league stars have failed again. Rinse and repeat from England, until they stop deluding themselves and overhyping and overpaying average players they will get nowhere.

siblers

Shearer has been awesome, was never a huge fan of him as a pundit but everything he said has been truthful. Jenas has been pretty honest too but not as vocal.

mansize

Jermain Jackson more football knowledge than Jenas

Mr. Farage

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

What? Their players are easily good enough to beat Iceland.

Tonight proves otherwise.

Cervantes2

Shearer telling it like it is.

Harry Angstrom

Too much respect paid to Rooney. He should have been taken off much earlier tonight. If Rashford had replaced him earlier, it might have made a difference.

Dick phelan

DeanAustin wrote: »

Say whatever you like and there is a lot of truth in the above but every day of the week England should be beating Iceland.

Why? Iceland qualified from a serious hard group at the expense of the Dutch, they drew with Portugal and beat Austria, why is it such a shock? England are no better in fact they are worse then Portugal. Iceland are a team and i'll tell you something a lot of there team might well be getting moves to some pretty big clubs after the tournament.

AllGunsBlazing

Please let it be Pardew!

Mr. Farage

Southgate as favorite lol.

Ol' Donie

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Shearer just said the players are not as good as they think they are.

To be fair.

Which is disguised to a certain extent in the PL because the majority of them aren't key playmakers in the teams they are in. Harry Kane is a bit of a puzzler though. Is he really as bad as that?

Cypher_sounds

It's great to see the match of the day boys a bit animated for once.
Really enjoying this episode:)

~Rebel~

This is so weird....I was delighted watching the match, and delighted with the result...but now i'm almost angry because of how **** England were, purely out of principle!

BorneTobyWilde

Iceland were difficult because they are not conventional . They do things not expected , make passes not typical. It's hard to play against such unpredictable opponents/
What they did on edge of box, those lil passes, that was something not expected ever. You can't pass the ball around on edge of box within a 5ft square, they did and passed it into net also.

inforfun

mansize wrote: »

Jermain Jackson more football knowledge than Jenas

He had this one though:

"This was Iceland's easiest match of the tournament."

And so it was.

chupacabra

What.... Shearer just applied for the job on live TV. What. A. Plonker. :pac: