Should you receive warnings for supporting the provisional IRA

jack923

I support what they stood for and their goals that doesn't mean I agree with innocent people who were killed, if you support the US army that doesn't mean you support the hospital that was blown up a while back where 42 innocent people died. If you support the British army that doesn't mean you support the soldiers who raped women in the Iraq invasion or all the innocent women and children who were bombed to death. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

The west brit mods will remove this post in no time they don't like hearing anything bad about their majesties servants.

longshanks

Pretty idiotic to say you support a group but don't support their actions.

jack923

longshanks wrote: »

Pretty idiotic to say you support a group but don't support their actions.

I do support their actions, most of them but I don't support things like the poppy day massacre which was sanctioned from a mid level officer.

longshanks

Abortions for some, miniature American flegs for others.

jack923

The hypocrites don't like to hear this they prefer to think the IRA are the boogymen and the Brits and Americans are heroes who never done any wrong.

Unknown to some but most catholics in the north supported the IRA especially in the early 70s to mid 80s.

longshanks

You're adorable xx.

Dodge

I think you should have a warning for selecting [International] when talking about the IRA. Blatant trolling IMO

jack923

Dodge wrote: »

I think you should have a warning for selecting [International] when talking about the IRA. Blatant trolling IMO

To do with American and British as well. It's to do with hypocrisy

harry Bailey esq

longshanks wrote: »

Pretty idiotic to say you support a group but don't support their actions.

Fine gael are still the kingpins at the moment, obviously people voted for them, despite going mental over their actions ie water charges etc. To quote one of my favourite songs, 'the public wants what the public gets.Weller/Foxton The jam 1981

longshanks

jack923 wrote: »

To do with American and British as well. It's to do with hypocrisy

Hypocrisy eh? Like supporting a group who set off bombs to kill innocent people, but saying you don't support bombs killing innocent people.

jack923

longshanks wrote: »

Hypocrisy eh? Like supporting a group who set off bombs to kill innocent people, but saying you don't support bombs killing innocent people.

They didn't intentionally target innocent civilians except in one incident which was sanctioned by a mid level officer.

An incident that sticks out in my mind 3 of the escaped of maze prison took over a rural protestant house to stay out of sight from helicopters and when the helicopters were gone they said to the family you have 2 options so that you don't call the police for 24 hours, option 1 is we take your eldest son (16), the woman begged not to take her son. Option 2 is that you swear to me as a Christian that you won't contact the police for 24 hours. Obviously the woman took that offer and the 3 IRA men walked out with their lives and freedom in their hands and as they left they said no matter what happens you won't hear from us again you have my word as a Christian. These are not the monsters the media makes them out to be.

To not cause the family any pain they went on blind hope.

GavRedKing

One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist.

mahoganygas

jack923 wrote:

I support what they stood for and their goals that doesn't mean I agree with innocent people who were killed, if you support the US army that doesn't mean you support the hospital that was blown up a while back where 42 innocent people died. If you support the British army that doesn't mean you support the soldiers who raped women in the Iraq invasion or all the innocent women and children who were bombed to death. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

You made a clear, fair and objective argument here. You seem engaging and willing to discuss with a bit of maturity.

jack923 wrote:

The west brit mods will remove this post in no time they don't like hearing anything bad about their majesties servants.

And then you go and say something like this, and I lose all respect for you, your argument and the people you are defending.

I was only talking about this last week with a friend. The republican cause is admirable and convincing. I could see myself supporting many republican ideals. But a lot of their supporters are absolute d1cks who spout exactly this sort of tripe.
I don't like to generalise but why are so many SF/IRA/Republican supporters so doggedly stubborn and ignorant?

This is exactly why I avoid republican threads on here.

People who want a united Ireland have two win 2 referendums. One in the north and one in the south. I'm in the south and I'm leaning towards voting against a united Ireland. And to be perfectly honest it's because of the people who support it.
Silly, I know. But you really don't sell the idea of republicanism well.

jack923

mahoganygas wrote: »

You made a clear, fair and objective argument here. You seem engaging and willing to discuss with a bit of maturity.



And then you go and say something like this, and I lose all respect for you, your argument and the people you are defending.

I was only talking about this last week with a friend. The republican cause is admirable and convincing. I could see myself supporting many republican ideals. But a lot of their supporters are absolute d1cks who spout exactly this sort of tripe.
I don't like to generalise but why are so many SF/IRA/Republican supporters so doggedly stubborn and ignorant?

This is exactly why I avoid republican threads on here.

People who want a united Ireland have two win 2 referendums. One in the north and one in the south. I'm in the south and I'm leaning towards voting against a united Ireland. And to be perfectly honest it's because of the people who support it.
Silly, I know. But you really don't sell the idea of republicanism well.

I said that because all of my arguments and threads get removed and I get a ban and warnings.

longshanks

I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig enjoys it.

jack923

longshanks wrote: »

I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig enjoys it.

Because you don't know what to say, you can't argue with this

WonkyMe

This is just trolling.

jack923

WonkyMe wrote: »

This is just trolling.

Oh yeah the british army and the US army never harmed anybody. I'm an obvious troll

BoJack Horseman

jack923 wrote: »

I'm an obvious troll

Once everyone is in agreement then....

jack923

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Once everyone is in agreement then....

Which part am I trolling about?

jack923

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Once everyone is in agreement then....

Is it the hospital blown up by a US airstrike? I can provide links if you want?

jack923

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Once everyone is in agreement then....

Or is it the estimated 1-200,000 civilians who died in the Iraq invasion?

jack923

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Once everyone is in agreement then....

Or is it the reports of women being raped by British troops?

mahoganygas

Wow. It really is like a bot.

jack923

mahoganygas wrote: »

Wow. It really is like a bot.

Don't like the truth? I made plenty of ignorant one liner threads which went up to 20 pages but I actually provide detailed comparisons this time and I just get called a troll, I wish someone could just tell me which part I'm trolling about.

recipio

There's one in every audience. You can't reason with a neanderthal.:rolleyes:

K-9

The thread is a mess so it's best closed rather than handing out cards and bans to a few posters.

jack923, it really looks like you want an argument, not a debate or discussion and there are a couple of posters here that know a lot better than their "input" on this thread.