Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016 - Mod Warning Post #6863

Adamocovic

Jayop wrote: »

We've only a handful of posts in this thread before we get the new one so maybe we should dedicate them to positivity. Great United photos, gifs, videos, memories, optimism?

I like this idea.

Manchester Derby?Maine Road? Steve McClaren? Wes Brown? Beckham free-kick? Oh yes.

Cantona's Collars

MagicIRL wrote: »

United have bid €30mill for Fabinho in the last few hours according to Marca. Anything more reliable out?

It's nice to be back on the ball with the news: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100704419&postcount=9466 :D:D

MagicIRL

zerks wrote: »

It's nice to be back on the ball with the news: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100704419&postcount=9466 :D:D

Twitter doesn't load here in work.

FutureGuy

Lads. Ladies. Pogba. Friday.

yermandan

Pheonix10 wrote: »

I'd recommend the Blaze before the game but your wife won't appreciate it.

My Mrs, while shocked to the core, loved it! She asked last night when we are going back haha

Jayop

FutureGuy wrote: »

Lads. Ladies. Pogba. Friday.

Leave him on the bench and start Young and Jones at cm just for the lolz.

jayo26

yermandan wrote: »

My Mrs, while shocked to the core, loved it! She asked last night when we are going back haha

Sounds brilliant Dan:)

yermandan

jayo26 wrote: »

Sounds brilliant Dan:)

Just get there 2 hours before kick-off and get a comfortable spot!

jayo26

yermandan wrote: »

Just get there 2 hours before kick-off and get a comfortable spot!

Cheers pal that's the plan anyway. Can't bloody wait now

jayo26

Anyone ever lookup the Bishops blaize on YouTube haha right spot.

Jayop

jayo26 wrote: »

Anyone ever lookup the Bishops blaize on YouTube haha right spot.

The little Asian guy that sings in there is hilarious. We had him on the tram last year on the way back and he had the whole place in stitches.

hufpc8w3adnk65

Jayop wrote: »

The little Asian guy that sings in there is hilarious. We had him on the tram last year on the way back and he had the whole place in stitches.

When he grabs the beer off lads doing the "we'll drink, we'll drink,we'll drink to Eric the king the king the king" is gas felas staring at him thinking he robbing beer...
Pete Boyle is the kitty tho!

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jayo26 wrote: »

Anyone ever lookup the Bishops blaize on YouTube haha right spot.

Haven't been in there in ages,I'm usually in Sam Platts before games.

Heading over myself for the Leicester game,watching Sterling fall daily is great.Much better than the last game I went to and nearly crying at the exchange rate.

Polo_Mint

We need a New thread before Friday in recognition of Pogba , Zlatan, Micky and Bailly first PL game in Old Trafford

Burn this one down

Cookie_Dough

Jayop wrote: »

We've only a handful of posts in this thread before we get the new one so maybe we should dedicate them to positivity. Great United photos, gifs, videos, memories, optimism?

I miss this RvP...Goal v Arsenal. His celebration was epic! The Arsenal fans were giving him dogs abuse before the match started

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Jayop

Ah cookie great memory. He should have been with us years ago. What a goal scorer.

Cookie_Dough

Jayop wrote: »

Ah cookie great memory. He should have been with us years ago. What a goal scorer.

I know, I wish he'd stayed and kept up his form of his first season. I really thought when LVG came it it would reinvigorate him but it wasn't the case.


Here's another that I love...a wicked deflection but oh so sweet! Can't beat a winner in the dying seconds v City.

magnumbud

almost a year ago

RobertKK

Martial speaks to L'Equipe about LVG;
"I had an excellent relationship with Van Gaal. He demanded perfection always by my side, and it helped me a lot.
"He showed me always videos of what I should do differently in competition. Even in games where I had scored two goals.
"Sometimes it was annoying, but I knew that it was for my own good."

deaddonkey15

Cookie_Dough wrote: »

I miss this RvP...Goal v Arsenal. His celebration was epic! The Arsenal fans were giving him dogs abuse before the match started

Great corner by Rooney there. Reminds me of when he swung one in for Welbeck against Real Madrid in the Champions League. Top player.

TheDoc

That Martial goal was probably the highlight of the Van Gaal era for me. Can't remember going so mental over a goal in a long time.

For all Van Gaal's issue, he did get some cracking results against rivals

Jayop

This....

Jayop

Cookie_Dough

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Great corner by Rooney there. Reminds me of when he swung one in for Welbeck against Real Madrid in the Champions League. Top player.

This one? Nice corner alright and nice finish. Yeah I'm bored and on youtube...

Jayop

Pro. F

Pro. F wrote: »

I think you're not giving him near enough credit here. The number and location of passes Rooney received in the final third is a hell of a lot better for a #10 than just "not bad."

Fair enough, I'll take your word for it which you seem more than good for on these things. I'm going by what I saw as I watched the game. The 'passes received' chart shows a busy player, even my eyes showed a busy player. However, that 'passes received' chart doesn't show what he did with those received passes, whether he converted them to chances, recycled or lost possession, advanced an attack. Is there a chart to show passes completed? Not expecting you to do the dog work Pro F, just it would probably take you 30 seconds to find one where as I'll be gone for 30 minutes looking for one.

Pro. F wrote:

But it is just wrong to say that Rooney wasn't occupying the 10 space. You can see how many times he received the ball in that space, a lot. He also received the ball a lot in the box and in central midfield, but that did not stop him from receiving it in the 10 area at a very good rate. A rate that compares favourably to the majority of top level 10s (except for the ones playing on tiki taka teams). And it wasn't just in yesterday's game, Rooney has always been like this when playing 10.

Anyway, as you say, Ibra always likes to drop deep, so that is a good explanation for why he dropped deep. If we didn't want a CF dropping deep and the 10 running past him, then we shouldn't have signed Ibra.

Tbh, I am thinking there's a fair chance that Mourinho will tweak Rooney's game and tell him to not drop deep so often. He tired badly on Sunday and if he wasn't dropping back so much that might help. But that is a seperate issue.

"...he was doing so to fill space which Rooney should have been occupying" - I didn't mean that Rooney wasn't occupying the 10 space often, just that he's drifting far deeper from it than I would have imagined a traditional 10 would when he does leave it. This is what I thought was dragging Zlatan further deeper in turn.

As you said, this is the way Rooney has always played 10. It's just, I don't think he's as effective these days and there's potentially others now in the squad who could do it more creatively. Someone a bit more focused on that area of the pitch, with linking the middle with attack and creating something out of almost nothing, rather than coming back to the defense line (when not defending) to receive the ball and try to push-start something from there. Maybe with some coaching from Mourinho and a lesson or two on energy conservation, i.e. not dropping so deep so often, Rooney could still be that 10 for us.

My main concern is that if/when the time comes for Rooney to be dropped/rotated due to performance issues, Jose does it just as easily as he'd do it with any of the other first team players. Thankfully the club are now at a point where there are healthy numbers of players to compete for the attacking positions. While I don't want to see Jose chopping and changing the line-up every match and would like to see him nail down a semi-regular starting 11 soon, I want that 11 to be based on ability and contribution to the team. Rooney, of the last two seasons in general, this team needs more from him.

deaddonkey15

Cookie_Dough wrote: »

This one? Nice corner alright and nice finish. Yeah I'm bored and on youtube...

Yes that's the one, I don't think there are too many other Rooney corners converted by Welbeck against Real in the Champions League!

Jayop

I think this is my all time favourite United picture. The ball is already in the back of the net but it's the millisecond before the players react. The looks on the players faces are all brilliant.

Cantona's Collars

Jayop wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAzyPabvd_U


This....

http://www.football365.com/news/portrait-of-an-icon-eric-cantona

“If ever there was one player, anywhere in the world, that was made for Manchester United, it was Cantona. He swaggered in, stuck his chest out, raised his head and surveyed everything as though he were asking: ‘I’m Cantona. How big are you? Are you big enough for me?'” – Sir Alex Ferguson.

Jayop

@stankratz

Cookie_Dough

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Yes that's the one, I don't think there are too many other Rooney corners converted by Welbeck against Real in the Champions League!

True, Rooney's corners usually muck and Welbeck usually falls over himself rather than score :pac:

jayo26

My positive contribution to the end of the thread is we have a full season of frida6night football and fantasy football to look forward too all presented by



photos upload



Dont get better then that.

magnumbud

TheDoc wrote: »

That Martial goal was probably the highlight of the Van Gaal era for me. Can't remember going so mental over a goal in a long time.

For all Van Gaal's issue, he did get some cracking results against rivals

beating city 4-2, beating pool every time in the league too.

this goal :

Jayop

Jay, I can't decide if I'm more excited about Pogba or Rachel on Friday.

deaddonkey15

Cookie_Dough wrote: »

True, Rooney's corners usually muck and Welbeck usually falls over himself rather than score :pac:

Or we don't usually play Real Madrid in the Champions League.

Lithium93_

Great United memories

United/Arsenal 2004/05 season, ending Arsenal's unbeaten run, and the 2011/12 season, August 28th, putting 8 past Arsenal

Lithium93_

Jayop wrote: »

Jay, I can't decide if I'm more excited about Pogba or Rachel on Friday.

Why not both?

Cantona's Collars

jayo26 wrote: »

My positive contribution to the end of the thread is we have a full season of frida6night football and fantasy football to look forward too all presented by



photos upload



Dont get better then that.

Don't forget 8 out of 10 cats is also back on Friday nights.A Rachel Riley Threesome.;)

MagicIRL

Women are class.

Cookie_Dough

MagicIRL wrote: »

Women are class.

Thanks

magnumbud

the picture of her doing keepy uppies is a very close to not safe for work :P

deaddonkey15

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Great United memories

United/Arsenal 2004/05 season, ending Arsenal's unbeaten run, and the 2011/12 season, August 28th, putting 8 past Arsenal

Another great Rooney ball for that van Persie goal. That pass was absolute perfection. The finish wasn't too bad either.

Jayop

magnumbud wrote: »

the picture of her doing keepy uppies is a very close to not safe for work :P

You can see as much leg in the VanPersie Volley video.

Lithium93_

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Another great Rooney ball for that van Persie goal. That pass was absolute perfection. The finish wasn't too bad either.

I remember watching that game, and as soon as the ball left Rooney's foot, Van Persie on the run, I knew damn well where the ball was gonna end up..

I submitted that last 'football' post before reading today's thread and seeing the vibe. Good idea to see out this thread, it's been a great one.

I love this photo. RVP got the winner with an injury time deflected free-kick after it looked like we had thrown 3 points away. Rooney put us 2-0 up and City then clawed back to 2-2.



RVP really was immense for us that season.

deaddonkey15

stankratz wrote: »

I submitted that last 'football' post before reading today's thread and seeing the vibe. Good idea to see out this thread, it's been a great one.

I love this photo. RVP got the winner with an injury time deflected free-kick after it looked like we had thrown 3 points away. Rooney put us 2-0 up and City then clawed back to 2-2.



RVP really was immense for us that season.

Isn't Rooney the all time top scorer in Manchester derbys?

Giggsy11

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Another great Rooney ball for that van Persie goal. That pass was absolute perfection. The finish wasn't too bad either.

Rooney's debate is often with two extremes and you are definitely in one extreme. Sometimes I even doubt you are Rooney.

Cookie_Dough

Lithium93_ wrote: »

I remember watching that game, and as soon as the ball left Rooney's foot, Van Persie on the run, I knew damn well where the ball was gonna end up..

It was a beast of a finish alright. Took a hell of a lot of skill to take the ball down from that cross and volley it over the keeper!

Jayop

Love that pic stankratz. Wasn't that the time Rio got belted with a coin?


Also, even though it's blue flares, I have to say it makes the pic look class. Yeah I accept that they're dangerous and stuff but they look awesome.