Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016 - Mod Warning Post #6863

Polo_Mint

Polo_Mint wrote: »

People have issues with transfer fees when you need to replace half your starting 11

I think Jose will build a team like the way Fergie did were its one out , one in

I don't believe this

Polo_Mint

Bradz213 wrote: »

I just never cared about them as it's not my money and would rather see it blown on a player than making some fat-cat richer

in fairness, it tends to be other club fans with issues about another clubs spending.

bangkok

Pogba first choice is to go to Madrid.

We have agreed wages with his agent already which has happened many times before with players and would be pretty normal.

Woodward is now in negotiations with Juve.

If Juve agree a deal with us and Real Madrid match that agreement, pogba will end up going to Madrid.

Mitch Connor

bangkok wrote: »

Pogba first choice is to go to Madrid.

We have agreed wages with his agent already which has happened many times before with players and would be pretty normal.

Woodward is now in negotiations with Juve.

If Juve agree a deal with us and Real Madrid match that agreement, pogba will end up going to Madrid.

Thanks for that summation of narrative everyone knows. Invaluable.

bangkok

bangkok wrote: »

Pogba first choice is to go to Madrid.

We have agreed wages with his agent already which has happened many times before with players and would be pretty normal.

Woodward is now in negotiations with Juve.

If Juve agree a deal with us and Real Madrid match that agreement, pogba will end up going to Madrid.

Where is the Madrid source coming from anyway?

Rayne Wooney

I don't think Madrid can afford to spend 100 million on one player

Unless they get crazy deals for the likes of Morata and James

Claude Burgundy

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

I don't think Madrid can afford to spend 100 million on one player

Unless they get crazy deals for the likes of Morata and James

Without selling.

Polo_Mint

Is it £100 million cost & a 5 year deal at £210k a week wages?

Pickpocket

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Thanks for that summation of narrative everyone knows. Invaluable.

Actually, I think it's worth re-stating. The news outlets are starting to make it sound like a done deal.

bangkok

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Where is the Madrid source coming from anyway?

He said himself, he would love to join madrid and he sees madrid as the best place to go to win ballon dor.

Ballague has said as well he has been in discussions with Zidane and Zidane wants him at madrid

RobertKK

Bradz213 wrote: »

Never understand why fans get so bothered about transfer fees.

I don't think the shareholders are complaining.

Claude Burgundy

bangkok wrote: »

He said himself, he would love to join madrid and he sees madrid as the best place to go to win ballon dor.

Ballague has said as well he has been in discussions with Zidane and Zidane wants him at madrid

I just ignore every word he says now, complete and utter blagger.

RobertKK

bangkok wrote: »

He said himself, he would love to join madrid and he sees madrid as the best place to go to win ballon dor.

Ballague has said as well he has been in discussions with Zidane and Zidane wants him at madrid

Then Perez doesn't want him, and we know with Perez that the manager does what he is told, probably why they change the manager so often

MuPpItJoCkEy

Can somebody just clarify. Do United not get €75 a season alone from Adidas because that's pretty much a marquee signing a season even if Pogba does end up being €100, doesn't seem like that much of a hit especially if it translate into success on the pitch and then money that is brought in from all over the world from marketing.

Bradz213

MuPpItJoCkEy wrote: »

Can somebody just clarify. Do United not get €75 a season alone from Adidas because that's pretty much a marquee signing a season even if Pogba does end up being €100, doesn't seem like that much of a hit especially if it translate into success on the pitch and then money that is brought in from all over the world from marketing.

They make over €300M from just some of their commercial partners. Zlatan signing will probably bring in enough money to cover the Pogba deal!

Jaysus, we're going to sign Pogba aren't we.

Hold that train lads.

MuPpItJoCkEy

Bradz213 wrote: »

They make over €300M from just some of their commercial partners. Zlatan signing will probably bring in enough money to cover the Pogba deal!

Well then fees smees. If it's affordable, do it. Believe the right manager is there now too. I think there is already a great nucleus of players there and would discount the form of the players over the last couple of years because I'd say their heads were melted playing restricted so hopefully now there will be a new lease of life in them with some great competition for places for players to up their game.

TheDoctor

Pogba, out to Mkhitaryan, beats his man, squares it to Zlatan.... gooooaaaaallll!



And that's the goal that will probably see Liverpool relegated.....

MagicIRL

TheDoctor wrote: »

And that's the goal that will probably see Liverpool relegated.....

TheDoctor

MuPpItJoCkEy wrote: »

Can somebody just clarify. Do United not get €75 a season alone from Adidas because that's pretty much a marquee signing a season even if Pogba does end up being €100, doesn't seem like that much of a hit especially if it translate into success on the pitch and then money that is brought in from all over the world from marketing.

£75 million for the next 9 years, assuming United don't miss Champions league two years in a row, in that case it falls to £55ish million a season.

DrPhilG

adox wrote: »

Maybe its the Mourhino factor

That's the only reason I'm giving it credibility.

Mourinho has been cracking the transfer whip hard and clearly wants his targets in early. Assuming that Pogba is number 4, the fact that he's still at the Euros would clearly impede the completion of a deal. And if Pogba is just using us as leverage to get to Madrid for more money, I don't think Jose is silly enough to be used like that. If this does drag on and Madrid get involved then stuff him and lets move on to plan B.

Then of course there is the possibility that number 4 isn't Pogba at all, but as I say if it wasn't, I think the deal would be done by now.

duffman13

Jordan Ibe being sold for 15 million, if we sell Mata (to another Prem club) for less than 30 then we are mugs! Absolutely crazy money flying around!

TheDoctor

Consider we are getting this season:

£96 million for fifth place in the league last season
£75 million from Addidas as shirt maker
£55 million from Chevrolet as primary shirt sponsor

There's £226 million going into the bank.

Then DHL give about another £10 million.
Have another wave of smaller sponsors/business partners.

Add another 75,000 fans for 19 home Premier League games.
Add cup games etc.

Add merchandising sales.

United are easily going past the £500 million mark in revenue this year.
£220 million ish is wages.
About £40 million debt repayments.

£100 million for a player can be squeezed in somewhere.

ElChe32

duffman13 wrote: »

Jordan Ibe being sold for 15 million, if we sell Mata (to another Prem club) for less than 30 then we are mugs! Absolutely crazy money flying around!

COWBOYS TED! THEY'RE A BUNCH OF COWBOYS!

jayo26

All these new names it must be the Pogba effect.

bangkok

RobertKK wrote: »

Then Perez doesn't want him, and we know with Perez that the manager does what he is told, probably why they change the manager so often

Perez could wait until United have deal in place knowing that Pogba wants to go to Madrid and screw us over in revenge for de Gea. He would love nothing more than to do that

Cookie_Dough

duffman13 wrote: »

Jordan Ibe being sold for 15 million, if we sell Mata (to another Prem club) for less than 30 then we are mugs! Absolutely crazy money flying around!

How long does Mata have left on his deal with us? I know it won't really matter if Jose wants rid/he decides he wants to leave.

bangkok

Claude Burgundy wrote: »

I just ignore every word he says now, complete and utter blagger.

yep must be why Ronaldo and Messi the 2 biggest players in the history of the game trusted him enough to write books for them :rolleyes:

bangkok

bangkok wrote: »

yep must be why Ronaldo and Messi the 2 biggest players in the history of the game trusted him enough to write books for them :rolleyes:

He said just before LVG was sacked that United wanted him to stay.

Spoofer

Pickpocket

bangkok wrote: »

yep must be why Ronaldo and Messi the 2 biggest players in the history of the game trusted him enough to write books for them :rolleyes:

Do you think Ronaldo and Messi took a hands-on approach in selecting the person that ghost-wrote their biographies? Or do you think their publishers just told them they had four 90 minute meetings with some dude they don't give a **** about. I know what my money's on.

DrPhilG

bangkok wrote: »

yep must be why Ronaldo and Messi the 2 biggest players in the history of the game trusted him enough to write books for them :rolleyes:

So being a successful author makes you nailed on for transfer rumours?

Must check Stephen King's twitter and see what juicy gossip he has.

Maybe JK Rowling can tell us if Mata to Everton is going down?

Pickpocket

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He said just before LVG was sacked that United wanted him to stay.

Spoofer

He's consistently linked to speculative stories, so many in fact that he's occasionly correct. It's quantity over quality with that guy. And yet he's turned it into a career.

Liam McPoyle

Ballague is a spoofer that occasionally gets things right.

Same as every other "itk" journo out there.

bangkok

Balague broke some of the biggest deals involving transfers between England and Spain and vice versa.

I dont get what di Marzio is taken like some god here yet Balague is seen as some sort of spoofer.

sReq | uTeK

M!Ck^ wrote: »

As long as it's not Veron 2.0...

A player that was far ahead of his time in England, if he was here now where continental 4-2-3-1 are deployed in nauseating fashion he'd be a world beater.

Sadly, he joined in a time where 4-4-2 was all the rage and spent most of his time shunted out on the right. One of my favorite players to never really hit the highs he could have. Shame really.

Plus his name, it was utterly class. Juan Seba Veron, rolls off the tongue.

Jayop

bangkok wrote: »

Balague broke some of the biggest deals involving transfers between England and Spain and vice versa.

I dont get what di Marzio is taken like some god here yet Balague is seen as some sort of spoofer.

They're all the same. Throw enough ****e at the wall and some of it will stick.

padd b1975

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

A player that was far ahead of his time in England, if he was here now where continental 4-2-3-1 are deployed in nauseating fashion he'd be a world beater.

Sadly, he joined in a time where 4-4-2 was all the rage and spent most of his time shunted out on the right. One of my favorite players to never really hit the highs he could have. Shame really.

Plus his name, it was utterly class. Juan Seba Veron, rolls off the tongue.

One of the best chants ever, to the tune of Seasons In The Sun.

We had joy, we had fun
Juan Sebastian Verdon
He's got style and no hair
He's an Argie we don't care!

bangkok

Deleted User wrote: »

He said just before LVG was sacked that United wanted him to stay.

Spoofer

He also said that in April, a lot can happen in a few weeks in football.

he broke the news that de geas deal to madrid had collapsed as well

sReq | uTeK

bangkok wrote: »

Perez could wait until United have deal in place knowing that Pogba wants to go to Madrid and screw us over in revenge for de Gea. He would love nothing more than to do that

Well thats a bit of a stretch. All the reports I read had Real Madrid playing silly buggers not coming in with an official bid until deadline day. If they wanted DDG that badly they would have bid in advance and not left it till last minute. And wasn't it Madrids paperwork that was half cocked after the fact?

This silly buggers by Real might just be why DDG is happy in Manchester?

RobertKK

I hope we got back our deposit for Falcao. His loan did not cost 40 million...

Strumms

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

A player that was far ahead of his time in England, if he was here now where continental 4-2-3-1 are deployed in nauseating fashion he'd be a world beater.

Sadly, he joined in a time where 4-4-2 was all the rage and spent most of his time shunted out on the right. One of my favorite players to never really hit the highs he could have. Shame really.

Plus his name, it was utterly class. Juan Seba Veron, rolls off the tongue.

Loved Veron as a player way before he even signed for us. He was a class act and I was gutted when he left. Read an interview with him not long ago where he said he regrets not giving it another season as Fergie wanted him to stay too. Still had some great performances for us in Europe where he played his best football for us.

bangkok

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Well thats a bit of a stretch. All the reports I read had Real Madrid playing silly buggers not coming in with an official bid until deadline day. If they wanted DDG that badly they would have bid in advance and not left it till last minute. And wasn't it Madrids paperwork that was half cocked after the fact?

This silly buggers by Real might just be why DDG is happy in Manchester?

Perez is extremley cocky.

They had erected a stage in the bernabeu a full week before Gareth Bale deal was announced and Daniel Levy was so angry that he accepted our bid for Bale and he was hoping he would move to United rather that Real.

RobertKK

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Well thats a bit of a stretch. All the reports I read had Real Madrid playing silly buggers not coming in with an official bid until deadline day. If they wanted DDG that badly they would have bid in advance and not left it till last minute. And wasn't it Madrids paperwork that was half cocked after the fact?

This silly buggers by Real might just be why DDG is happy in Manchester?

Yeah, if you are De Gea you would be thinking why move to Madrid when they waited till literally the last minute and in the end just caused trouble for everyone involved.

bangkok

Strumms wrote: »

Loved Veron as a player way before he even signed for us. He was a class act and I was gutted when he left. Read an interview with him not long ago where he said he regrets not giving it another season as Fergie wanted him to stay too. Still had some great performances for us in Europe where he played his best football for us.

why was he sold to chelsea if he wanted to stay and so did fergie?

v3ttel

DrPhilG wrote: »

So being a successful author makes you nailed on for transfer rumours?

Must check Stephen King's twitter and see what juicy gossip he has.

Maybe JK Rowling can tell us if Mata to Everton is going down?

I must go back and read the 2007 classic, Anderson and the chocolate factory.

DrPhilG

bangkok wrote: »

why was he sold to chelsea if he wanted to stay and so did fergie?

He didn't say he wanted to stay. He said that he later regretted not staying.

bangkok

Speaking of Balague

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12087/10494539/real-open-to-morata-sale

Bradz213

TheDoctor wrote: »

Pogba, out to Mkhitaryan, beats his man, squares it to Zlatan.... gooooaaaaallll!



And that's the goal that will probably see Liverpool relegated.....

Carlsberg don't do Premier League Survival days, but if they did....

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

A player that was far ahead of his time in England, if he was here now where continental 4-2-3-1 are deployed in nauseating fashion he'd be a world beater.

Sadly, he joined in a time where 4-4-2 was all the rage and spent most of his time shunted out on the right. One of my favorite players to never really hit the highs he could have. Shame really.

Plus his name, it was utterly class. Juan Seba Veron, rolls off the tongue.

Completely agree. Also his performances weren't that bad either. English media had it in for him as they were due to play Argentina in WC

Strumms

bangkok wrote: »

why was he sold to chelsea if he wanted to stay and so did fergie?

He alludes to it in this interview. Although I'm pretty much sure I read it in a different article first....



http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Features/2016/Apr/Juan-Sebastian-Veron-reflects-on-United-career-in-exclusive-interview.aspx

Jayop

I just found my new favorite website.


http://sinceliverpoollastwonatrophy.co.uk/