Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2016 - Mod Warning Post #6863

irishfeen

Am I the only one who thinks the £100m should really be broken down to 30-40m to improve the team in several places?

£100m is absolutely ridiculous money!

Discodog

viper006 wrote: »

That immense feeling of satisfaction you get when you trade a player to Juve for free and buy him back for 100m Afew years later . Absolute insanity

So you would rather miss out on an outstanding signing because the club failed to see his potential.

All this talk of Madrid. If you were spurned by a club you would love to make them pay 100m to get you back.

Jayop

irishfeen wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks the £100m should really be broken down to 30-40m to improve the team in several places?

£100m is absolutely ridiculous money!

Not really when we still have plenty of 30-40 millions around to buy other players and strengthen elsewhere. We're not going to blow it all on one player, but rather we have already added 3 players, add one big name and then if we need to get another player if people leave we still can.

jayo26

irishfeen wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks the £100m should really be broken down to 30-40m to improve the team in several places?

£100m is absolutely ridiculous money!

It's going to be hard enough to get four new players to gel let alone another summer of six or seven.

You have two options you go and buy the best players you can or you do like Liverpool have been doing and buying in 8 or 9 players for average price and hoping you hit gold with a few.

I'd prefer four top players then 7 average.

Leroy42

The reason why Barca/Rm are seen as the big clubs is that historically they have acted that way. Top players always ended up there.

If MU want to be seen as the biggest club they need to knock them off their perch, and that will take money.

Much like Chelsea and City needed to do when they got money, they needed to splash it around to jump the que. Of course MU have far more positives from the start than either of them did but we now have a world class manager and need to make MU the destination for top players.

We have DDG, Martial, get Pogba on board and you are showing the world that the situation is changing. With the money rolling into the PL and with MU being far ahead of the others in the EPL in terms of revenue they need to flex that muscle.

€80m for Ronaldo by RM was seen as crazy, same the Bale sale. But that it the type of club RM what to be seen as. It proves you are the best when RM want you. MU need to take over that mantle.

TheTownie

Utd have confirmed Jose's backroom staff.

Assistant manager - Rui Faria



Coach - Silvino Louro



Coach - Ricardo Formosinho



Coach - Carlos Lalin



Coach - Emilio Alvarez



Analyst - Giovanni Cerra

Liam McPoyle

That Louro fella looks like a mafia hitman.

IamtheWalrus

Utd aren't spending 100m on a footballer unless they can afford it. Fear not. You need to spend big to be big these days and if Utd pull off this transfer it'll almost make me believe the good old days might, just might, be possible again.

Whatsisname

Reminds me of the time we had the mexican cartel looking bench

NoviGlitzko

It's an insane amount of money but you know what - some club in the very near future is gonna throw out 100M, so it might as well be us!

As Walrus said we would only make a bid if we had it to spend anyway.

Polo_Mint

The Coaching staff look like Mafia Mugshots

Exciting times ahead

Kerrydude1981

TheTownie wrote: »

Utd have confirmed Jose's backroom staff.

Assistant manager - Rui Faria



Coach - Silvino Louro



Coach - Ricardo Formosinho



Coach - Carlos Lalin



Coach - Emilio Alvarez



Analyst - Giovanni Cerra

GSPfan

Can someone with a good brain for things tell me if the devaluation of the pound sterling has warped the bidding process slightly? Or does it even matter.

Is it better or worse for United with a £100 million bid? Im wondering if Juve had a value of say €100 million before brexit (£75 million approx) then it has now gone up to £85 million approx. Am I right with that or does it even matter? Do United work with the dollar?

jayo26

GSPfan wrote: »

Can someone with a good brain for things tell me if the devaluation of the pound sterling has warped the bidding process slightly? Or does it even matter.

Is it better or worse for United with a £100 million bid? Im wondering if Juve had a value of say €100 million before brexit (£75 million approx) then it has now gone up to £85 million approx. Am I right with that or does it even matter? Do United work with the dollar?

I was talking about this earlier I actually think United are lucky because we're on the US stock exchange and deal primarily in dollar i think the likes of the chevy and aon deals were officially announced in dollars.

RobertKK

GSPfan wrote: »

Can someone with a good brain for things tell me if the devaluation of the pound sterling has warped the bidding process slightly? Or does it even matter.

Is it better or worse for United with a £100 million bid? Im wondering if Juve had a value of say €100 million before brexit (£75 million approx) then it has now gone up to £85 million approx. Am I right with that or does it even matter? Do United work with the dollar?

Given the fee is reported to be €120 million, we will be paying more due to 52% of British people making a silly choice.
The cost of living in the UK will rise as imports will be more expensive for the British.

Sand

LiamoSail wrote: »

Unless any player is at Real or Barca, he's not at his first choice club.

Not sure Paul Scholes would agree.

RobertKK

jayo26 wrote: »

I was talking about this earlier I actually think United are lucky because we're on the US stock exchange and deal primarily in dollar i think the likes of the chevy and aon deals were officially announced in dollars.

Yeah, they would have their money hedged by having Euro, US dollar and Sterling pound accounts.

LiamoSail

jayo26 wrote: »

I was talking about this earlier I actually think United are lucky because we're on the US stock exchange and deal primarily in dollar i think the likes of the chevy and aon deals were officially announced in dollars.

The vast majority of United's revenue would be generated in sterling though, everything from TV revenue to match day revenue. I'd imagine too that the likes of Pogba will want the sterling equivelint of whatever Euro salary he was previously going to demand, hence such contracts will cost United more,

Couple that with the potential impact on the club of the country going into recession and the tightening of restrictions on the employment of foreign nationals. I can't see Brexit being beneficial for any club.

Sand

LiamoSail wrote: »

The vast majority of United's revenue would be generated in sterling though, everything from TV revenue to match day revenue. I'd imagine too that the likes of Pogba will want the sterling equivelint of whatever Euro salary he was previously going to demand, hence such contracts will cost United more,

Couple that with the potential impact on the club of the country going into recession and the tightening of restrictions on the employment of foreign nationals. I can't see Brexit being beneficial for any club.

I dont know, but I would imagine United spend a lot of timing hedging FX risks given their sponsors pay them in dollars, they get prize money and tv revenue in sterling, and increasingly players will want to be paid in Euro. The Glazers take their profits in dollars too.

Whilst Pogba may demand more, on the bright side Rooney's contract suddenly got a lot less.

Flint Fredstone

Sand wrote: »

I dont know, but I would imagine United spend a lot of timing hedging FX risks given their sponsors pay them in dollars, they get prize money and tv revenue in sterling, and increasingly players will want to be paid in Euro. The Glazers take their profits in dollars too.

Whilst Pogba may demand more, on the bright side Rooney's contract suddenly got a lot less.

It's just worth a lot less to him.

RobertKK

Be nice if the Chinese came in with a huge offer for Rooney and a huge wage for him, and we then replaced Rooney with Griezmann.
Looking at the link up play with Pogba to Griezmann for a goal

Tippex

irishfeen wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks the £100m should really be broken down to 30-40m to improve the team in several places?

£100m is absolutely ridiculous money!

Good luck with that if watford turned down £38m for oghalo. £100m for pogba doesn't seem that ridiculous in comparison

paulbok

Polo_Mint wrote: »

The Coaching staff look like Mafia Mugshots

Exciting times ahead

Send a few around to Pogba and make him an offer he can't refuse

LiamoSail

Sand wrote: »

I dont know, but I would imagine United spend a lot of timing hedging FX risks given their sponsors pay them in dollars, they get prize money and tv revenue in sterling, and increasingly players will want to be paid in Euro. The Glazers take their profits in dollars too.

Whilst Pogba may demand more, on the bright side Rooney's contract suddenly got a lot less.

I'd guess you're right with regard to United hedging funds, but I've no idea what currency players are paid in. Irrespective though, the devaluation of the pound, while United may have softened the blow, has still been bad for their business

jayo26

LiamoSail wrote: »

The vast majority of United's revenue would be generated in sterling though, everything from TV revenue to match day revenue. I'd imagine too that the likes of Pogba will want the sterling equivelint of whatever Euro salary he was previously going to demand, hence such contracts will cost United more,

I wont ever claim to be an accountant but I'd say Uniteds sterling earnings would only be about third of their turn-over.

150 approx million league earnings an i
Donno what matchday revenue is but say its something like 1 million per game thats about 25 million max.

Dollars we have the equivalent of 70 million pound from addidas probably more now because the value of pound has dropped

We have 50 million from chevy

30 million from aon

And about another 20 smaller sponsors that probably average abouthe 3 million each

Thats not even counting euro prize money from Europa league or champions league if we get back in it.

Headshot

Its a very big if for me but if Pogba comes, he has to have the right partner to get the most out of him.

That's my big worry

Headshot

Headshot wrote: »

Its a very big if for me but if Pogba comes, he has to have the right partner to get the most out of him.

That's my big worry

This was always the case regardless

VW 1

jayo26 wrote:

150 approx million league earnings an i Donno what matchday revenue is but say its something like 1 million per game thats about 25 million max.

Match day revenues would be significantly higher. 75,000 seats at an average of a conservative 40 pound per ticket is 3 million. The tickets range from 32 up to 65 for regular tickets and that's without hospitality and match day packages and exec boxes etc.

Western Pomise

Great to see Schweini playing well tonight.

jayo26

VW 1 wrote: »

Match day revenues would be significantly higher. 75,000 seats at an average of a conservative 40 pound per ticket is 3 million. The tickets range from 32 up to 65 for regular tickets and that's without hospitality and match day packages and exec boxes etc.

I'd imagine the costs of hosting a match would be significantly hight too tho paying stewards and staff at stadium ect.

Mitch Connor

match day revenue at United for the year ending June 30 2015 was 90.6million

http://ir.manutd.com/company-information/business-model.aspx

paul_booth_fan

jayo26 wrote:

150 approx million league earnings an i Donno what matchday revenue is but say its something like 1 million per game thats about 25 million max.

VW 1 wrote: »

Match day revenues would be significantly higher. 75,000 seats at an average of a conservative 40 pound per ticket is 3 million. The tickets range from 32 up to 65 for regular tickets and that's without hospitality and match day packages and exec boxes etc.

Pretty sure I read that match day turnover could be anything up to 5 million depending on everything from executive boxes to who the opposition is.

glued

I wouldn't be putting any money on Pogba to United.

glued

glued wrote: »

I wouldn't be putting any money on Pogba to United.

Lol

41 minutes into a semi final lads

Headshot

If that was Martial he would of scored that.

jayo26

paul_booth_fan wrote: »

Pretty sure I read that match day turnover could be anything up to 5 million depending on everything from executive boxes to who the opposition is.

That's fair enough as I said I won't claim to be an accountant ha. It's a mad income too when you think about it no wonder spurs and Chelsea want new stadiums.

jayo26

Headshot wrote: »

If that was Martial he would of scored that.

After he round the defender and keeper.

Evra playing well

glued

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Lol

41 minutes into a semi final lads

I'm talking about betting on him to come to United. Nothing to do with his performance at all.

Pickpocket

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

"The United Way" has always been to use self-funded money to buy the very best players they could afford, and complement those players with homegrown youngsters. Even by breaking transfer records along the way.

And I don't disagree with any of that. I just feel that United's approach to transfers has changed massively in the past few years, and perhaps understandably so. For example, United have never broken the world transfer record for a player, and here they are now on the verge of smashing it for Paul Pogba. And this is coming only two years after breaking the British transfer record for Di Maria. That's a massive amount of money and a noticeable change in tact for a club that, under Ferguson, was always wary of paying a premium on players (notwithstanding his numerous British transfer records).

It's worth noting that Real Madrid have broken the world transfer record on the past five occasions. And we all know what their approach to transfers is. It would appear that United are moving in that direction. Now, it's possible that with a steady manager in charge, and a solid team in place, the squad may only need to be tweaked when the right players come along. And perhaps that is the case. However, it's also possible that United are just gonna turn into one of those clubs that spends big, and does so very, very often.

I'm not expecting the same transfer policy these days because obviously the circumstances are fundamentally different now that Ferguson has retired. But even allowing for the monumental change that the club has went through these past three years, their transfer policy does represent a major change in how the club goes about its business.

I admired Ferguson's willingness to break records, but also his reservations about signing older players and his reluctance to spend massively on those that are untested in the Premier League. That wasn't a 'policy' that was set in stone, but it did constitute some sort methodology, a "United's Way", if you will.

So it's been a wake-up call for me, and I suspect a lot of other United fans, to see their club spending so big, and at times without any clear sense of direction (although not under Jose, thankfully).

glued

glued wrote: »

I'm talking about betting on him to come to United. Nothing to do with his performance at all.

I apologize dude

Bret Hart

Apart from giving away the pen,I think Basti has been brilliant in the first half.

Flint Fredstone

Bret Hart wrote: »

Apart from giving away the pen,I think Basti has been brilliant in the first half.

Best player on the pitch.

TheDoctor

He's definitely been the difference between the two teams

Manutd_4life

If Bastian carries on this form next season, I wouldn't mind him taking the captains armband.

Real role model for the younger players and is a machine on his day. Potential to be a great leader for the club

Edit: but of course this probably won't happen...... cough cough Rooney cough

bangkok

Great to see Howard Webb is part of our coaching team

bangkok

Muller having an awful tournament.

Flint Fredstone

Evra vacating the LB spot from the first minute. He's a parody of himself.

Hococop

Pogba sent him back to Germany ha

Manutd_4life

The more I watch him, the more I want to see him at OT.

The Old Trafford crowd needs a superstar