Guinness Pro12 2016-2017

Adbrowne

treviso 3-0 scarlets nearing half time, sounds like a thriller !!!!!

wp_rathead

Seems to be an hour long Pro 12 highlight show on Eir Sport on Tuesday's at 7:30pm
Don't think any analysis but might have interviews with coaches

thomond2006

Ospreys 27-10 Cardiff Blues at HT

Cathalthesmart

Cardiff already looking like a side going to fall away.

former total

39-10 to the Ospreys, with Dan Biggar on the bench.

Cardiff's great start to the season coming apart somewhat.

Cathalthesmart

Cardiff look like a partial season wonders.

razorblunt

I forgot the game in Edinburgh was on, took the dog for a walk, could not hear a sound from outside the stadium (even the standard boos). Suprised to see they were winning well.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Glasgow only just beat Zebre there. Would have served them right to lose for putting out such a half arsed side (assuming none of it was injury enforced)

vienne86

Scarlets v Dragons is great entertainment - lots of running rugby. 14-20 after 37 minutes. It's on S4C.

The Lost Sheep

One more try in Scarlets Dragons and its a new league record for most trys in a weekend

Synode

Was it a new record in the end

Adbrowne

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

One more try in Scarlets Dragons and its a new league record for most trys in a weekend

Leinster v munster, 39 points was the lowest in pro12. Pro12 Averaged about 60 points per game this weekend

I had a bet on which i won, minimum points required in each game... €5 returned 75.
Leinster 39
Zebre 45
Scarlets 43
Grenoble 50
Racing 41

phog

TheVietGwent - Ospreylia 46 Bluesonia 24 – the lessons learnt

Adbrowne

Ospreys have lost Hassler for the season with achilles injury and Ardron is out for 6-8 weeks with a thumb injury.

ClanofLams

This has probably been mentioned before but the Pro12 should really have an online highlights show every week with maybe the possibility of getting it on free to air tv in each of the four countries over time.

They already put up over twenty minutes of coverage across six different highlights videos, surely it wouldn't require too much investment to add a presenter and maybe two current or ex players (rotating so each club gets represented) and make it into a 45 min/hour show. Done properly it could really strengthen interest in the league.

awec

Since Sky came on board the highlights have been rubbish IMO.

thomond2006

awec wrote: »

Since Sky came on board the highlights have been rubbish IMO.

Prior to Sky the Pro12 used to post clips as they happened and post-match they would post 5 minute highlights videos. It was really good. Then last season it turned into 2-3 minute videos, 1 minute of which was a Sky ad. Not so good! There's no reason why you can't have 5-6 minute videos and then the Sky ad.

Winters

phog wrote: »

TheVietGwent - Ospreylia 46 Bluesonia 24 – the lessons learnt

I finally got around to reading this, its not a very flowing article but interesting to get the Welsh point of view at this time.

Cardiff are the Welsh Saracens, £8m in debt.

thomond2006

Stuart Hogg will remain at Glasgow until 2019. Great news for Glasgow and the Pro12.

irishbucsfan

https://twitter.com/Crys16_Trust/status/792025394765565952

Hits the nail on the head with regards to why the Pro 12 keeps failing to stay in touch

Zzippy

irishbucsfan wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Crys16_Trust/status/792025394765565952

Hits the nail on the head with regards to why the Pro 12 keeps failing to stay in touch

Wales and Ireland both booked internationals outside of the test window. IRFU are releasing 16 players from the squad to play this weekend. All 4 teams in Ireland are putting out fairly strong sides this weekend. Wales are releasing feck all. Their beef should really be with the WRU and not Pro12.

irishbucsfan

Zzippy wrote: »

Wales and Ireland both booked internationals outside of the test window. IRFU are releasing 16 players from the squad to play this weekend. All 4 teams in Ireland are putting out fairly strong sides this weekend. Wales are releasing feck all. Their beef should really be with the WRU and not Pro12.

Well firstly the WRU and the Pro 12 are closely linked.

And secondly, it's the Pro 12 who scheduled domestic derbies to conflict with international games (and the internationals were announced first). Simon Thomas on twitter is suggesting that they're claiming it was scheduled this way accidentally, I find that hard to believe though.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Well firstly the WRU and the Pro 12 are closely linked.

And secondly, it's the Pro 12 who scheduled domestic derbies to conflict with international games (and the internationals were announced first). Simon Thomas on twitter is suggesting that they're claiming it was scheduled this way accidentally, I find that hard to believe though.

I assumed the interpros had been arranged for just before the international break to reduce travel time for teams and allow them to be in camps or whatever right up until the last minute. If, for example, Munster had been playing Zebre this weekend you'd probably have to allow a day or so either side of the match where Provincial players are unavailable to the Ireland squad. The way it's organised now everyone can be at Carton house on Saturday evening if necessary.

That was how I was reading it anyway.

former total

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Well firstly the WRU and the Pro 12 are closely linked.

And secondly, it's the Pro 12 who scheduled domestic derbies to conflict with international games (and the internationals were announced first). Simon Thomas on twitter is suggesting that they're claiming it was scheduled this way accidentally, I find that hard to believe though.

The derbies always happen when the Unions decide, twas ever thus. The 'conflict' is 100% intentional and not the fault of the Pro12.

It's just another symptom of how the unions don't really give a f**k about the tournament.

irishbucsfan

former total wrote: »

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Well firstly the WRU and the Pro 12 are closely linked.

And secondly, it's the Pro 12 who scheduled domestic derbies to conflict with international games (and the internationals were announced first). Simon Thomas on twitter is suggesting that they're claiming it was scheduled this way accidentally, I find that hard to believe though.

The derbies always happen when the Unions decide, twas ever thus. The 'conflict' is 100% intentional and not the fault of the Pro12.

It's just another symptom of how the unions don't really give a f**k about the tournament.

Yeah that's what I'm trying to get at

Zzippy

The Welsh fans are always moaning - about regional teams, about the Pro12, about their own union, about Irish refs. Nothing new here...


Edit to add: With their regional teams so weakened by WRU refusal to release players, they should be thankful they're playing derbies - at least this weekend 2 of their teams should win, whereas if they were playing other teams in the league there would be a good chance of 4 defeats. Even if they were so self-entitled that they thought they should get the Italians this weekend, 2 of their teams would still have to play Scots/Irish teams.

Adbrowne

Embra 0-3 Zebre after 20

Sounds riveting

wp_rathead

Adbrowne wrote: »

Embra 0-3 Zebre after 20

Sounds riveting

0-6 now
be some result for Zebre

Adbrowne

wp_rathead wrote: »

0-6 now
be some result for Zebre

0-6 at half time.

Adbrowne

embra 0-9 zebre after 50

ClanofLams

12-0 Zebre. Edinburgh must be awful! Wouldn't rule them out yet tho, zebre could gas

razorblunt

That was a pretty strong Edinburgh team that was named too.

Adbrowne

check out the blues v scarlets game. A scarlets player was yellow carded for being tackled off the ball

coco0981

Adbrowne wrote: »

check out the blues v scarlets game. A scarlets player was yellow carded for being tackled off the ball

Comical decision, got the wrong brother

matthew8

Edinburgh scored a try to take the lead but Zebre hit right back to lead 19-14.

thomond2006

Poor Rory Scholes. Get out of there if you can.

razorblunt

Fair to say Liam Williams didn't agree with it.

https://twitter.com/SanjayWills/status/792097722736209920

What a fúcking joke

Neil3030

Adbrowne wrote: »

check out the blues v scarlets game. A scarlets player was yellow carded for being tackled off the ball

Outstanding

Adbrowne

matthew8 wrote: »

Edinburgh scored a try to take the lead but Zebre hit right back to lead 19-14.

thats a result

razorblunt

thomond2006 wrote: »

Poor Rory Scholes. Get out of there if you can.

In fairness, he should be ok now that Hodge is the coach. The last few games they've actually looked to use the backs more and more.
The main issue with them though, is, as per the Visser years, a Scottish international winger will almost always start, Hoyland is that guy now.

thomond2006

razorblunt wrote: »

In fairness, he should be ok now that Hodge is the coach. The last few games they've actually looked to use the backs more and more.
The main issue with them though, is, as per the Visser years, a Scottish international winger will almost always start, Hoyland is that guy now.

The pity is Scholes could be an asset to any of the provinces. Hopefully he can get back to Ulster once Bowe and/or Trimble have retired or wind down.

razorblunt

thomond2006 wrote: »

The pity is Scholes could be an asset to any of the provinces. Hopefully he can get back to Ulster once Bowe and/or Trimble have retired or wind down.

Agreed, it was always a bold call moving over, but the sooner he gets back the better.

coco0981

Adbrowne wrote: »

check out the blues v scarlets game. A scarlets player was yellow carded for being tackled off the ball

https://twitter.com/Osian_Davies/status/792098091914649600

Tigerandahalf

Ulster Munster was a pretty poor game. The lack of talent, poor coaching and sloppy errors made it very hard watching.

You get a bit excited about the pro12 and then in the next fixture half the players are rested and all the dregs get a game.

Sad watching Luke Marshall tonight - clearly concussed again. A retirement may be emminent.

Cathalthesmart

Looks like the wheels have well and truly come off for Cardiff. 3 losses in a row.

coco0981

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Ulster Munster was a pretty poor game. The lack of talent, poor coaching and sloppy errors made it very hard watching.

You get a bit excited about the pro12 and then in the next fixture half the players are rested and all the dregs get a game.

Sad watching Luke Marshall tonight - clearly concussed again. A retirement may be emminent.

Dregs, bit harsh. Jack o Donoghue came in and was excellent tonight

Adbrowne

https://twitter.com/BBCScrumV/status/792099832831717376

Cathalthesmart

Wtf lol. Could the ref at least tell us what the culprit has done?

Tigerandahalf

coco1981 wrote: »

Dregs, bit harsh. Jack o Donoghue came in and was excellent tonight

Maybe a bit harsh but a lot of the players out there are really poor.

The coaching as well.

coco0981

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Maybe a bit harsh but a lot of the players out there are really poor.

The coaching as well.

True. Unfortunately for us, Keatley at no 10 is one of those. He really smacks of a player completely devoid of confidence. Remember him at Connaught, hardly looks like the same player