Season 7 Delayed

Mr E

They normally film in Summer/Autumn, but now that Winter has arrived, they need to wait for crappier weather. They're now looking at a later start in 2017 as a result.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/game-of-thrones/news/a800422/game-of-thrones-season-7-air-date-pushed-back-delayed/

fitz

Bacchus

Aren't they filming in Ireland though? What's the difference?

Tenger

Book readers have been living with this frustration pretty much since book 3 release I think.
Wasnt that the one that ended with "you will be reunited with your favourite characters next year"? 3 years later we got the book.......

The_Mac

Tenger wrote: »

Book readers have been living with this frustration pretty much since book 3 release I think.
Wasnt that the one that ended with "you will be reunited with your favourite characters next year"? 3 years later we got the book.......

That was A Feast For Crows, book 4.

Rumour has it that Martin brought Dance in one year later and his publisher wouldn't accept it as they thought it was rubbish, so he had to spend the next five years rewriting it.

johnnyskeleton

There must be plenty locations in the southern hemisphere that has a 100m icewall or a few fields with mud huts or a harbour that they could use.

Obviously it would be tricky to get dorne exactly right and the fans would probably be all over that. You know, ruining a fan favourite and all.

CMOTDibbler

The_Mac wrote: »

That was A Feast For Crows, book 4.

Rumour has it that Martin brought Dance in one year later and his publisher wouldn't accept it as they thought it was rubbish, so he had to spend the next five years rewriting it.

Never heard that rumour. I always thought it was the Meereenese knot that held him up with ADWD.

Are we looking at late October 2017 running up to Christmas then? No way it will be shown over the summer along with all the filler crap you get on TV at that time of year.

CMOTDibbler

Deleted User wrote: »

Are we looking at late October 2017 running up to Christmas then? No way it will be shown over the summer along with all the filler crap you get on TV at that time of year.

They don't actually know yet. They are just saying it'll "probably" be a "little bit" later. This in response to a question as to whether it would premiere in April.

So "probably" a "little bit" later than April. But since it's likely that the season will consist of less than ten episodes (most estimates are saying seven), it may well end the season at around the same time as this year.

pinkypinky

Dare I hope this is something to do with airing after a book release?

jamo2oo9

pinkypinky wrote: »

Dare I hope this is something to do with airing after a book release?

lol, still won't be out by then

CMOTDibbler

pinkypinky wrote: »

Dare I hope this is something to do with airing after a book release?

Afraid not. It's a pragmatic decision based on shooting locations and the need to have wintry skies and/or snow during shooting.

Normally shooting takes place between July and December. They could be delaying shooting by as much as three or four months in order to get winter weather. Because they are shooting for less episodes, they probably won't need as long a shooting schedule; perhaps reducing that by as much as two months which would put completion of shooting sometime in January or February.

Assuming that this directly translates into a premiere date, you could have the first episode airing around the end of May instead of the end of April (factoring in that post production takes a little bit less time because of the reduced number of episodes), then you'd have the seventh episode airing one week later than the tenth episode did this year.

duploelabs

May or June next year according to the Game of thrones insta acc

CMOTDibbler

duploelabs wrote: »

May or June next year according to the Game of thrones insta acc

Pretty close to what I suspected. :cool:

Hopefully they can keep to that schedule and it doesn't slip a la GRRM.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

Normally shooting takes place between July and December. They could be delaying shooting by as much as three or four months in order to get winter weather. Because they are shooting for less episodes, they probably won't need as long a shooting schedule; perhaps reducing that by as much as two months which would put completion of shooting sometime in January or February.

Sorry, couldn't resist

Feckit anyways, terrible news.

I had for some reason assumed though that the reduced number of episodes was because they were going to be longer and/or there's going to be a higher proportion of big, difficult to shoot episodes. So a smaller amount of episodes would take the same amount of time to shoot. I'm pretty sure I didn't read that anywhere though so who knows

mooseknunkle

Confirmed to premier next summer with only 7 episodes

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/18/game-thrones-season-7

moc moc a moc

The_Mac wrote: »

Rumour has it that Martin brought Dance in one year later and his publisher wouldn't accept it as they thought it was rubbish, so he had to spend the next five years rewriting it.

It was still rubbish

RobbingBandit

Wonder will the last episode be feature length. Probably last episode overall too. Jebus one year is too long freeze me now and wake me in 48 weeks.

Nody

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Wonder will the last episode be feature length. Probably last episode overall too. Jebus one year is too long freeze me now and wake me in 48 weeks.

The producers have previously told EW they wanted to cap the hit series at 73 hours

With season 7 at 7 episodes, season 8 at 8 episodes and previous 60 episodes at 1h it's highly unlikely.

Well, its official now. GoT will end with season 8 in 2018 as confirmed by HBO. 7 episodes for next season, but interestingly it seems the number of episodes for the final season is yet to be determined. Spinoffs have also been discussed.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-36934888

Paddy Cow

Deleted User wrote: »

Well, its official now. GoT will end with season 8 in 2018 as confirmed by HBO. 7 episodes for next season, but interestingly it seems the number of episodes for the final season is yet to be determined. Spinoffs have also been discussed.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-36934888

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if there is only going to be 13 episodes then this is balls and there should only be one more season. Ten episodes is not a lot and is over in the blink of an eye. You're just getting into the series when it's nearly over.

The only positive I can see to having 7 episodes is that hopefully there won't be filler and every episode will be excellent.

CMOTDibbler

Paddy Cow wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if there is only going to be 13 episodes then this is balls and there should only be one more season. Ten episodes is not a lot and is over in the blink of an eye. You're just getting into the series when it's nearly over.

The only positive I can see to having 7 episodes is that hopefully there won't be filler and every episode will be excellent.

They could do it in one 13 episode season but I'd say it would be delayed even more. Might not be ready until 2018 anyway.

It took twenty days of filming just for Battle of the Bastards afair. Episodes like that, you're talking about a month's work never mind post and CGI.

murpho999

Paddy Cow wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if there is only going to be 13 episodes then this is balls and there should only be one more season. Ten episodes is not a lot and is over in the blink of an eye. You're just getting into the series when it's nearly over.

The only positive I can see to having 7 episodes is that hopefully there won't be filler and every episode will be excellent.

I hate when people say this. GoT is hardly a show with a lot of filler.

Just because an episode does not contain major dramatic moments does not mean it's filler.
You can have plenty of character development or scene setting that does not mean it is just filler.

Paddy Cow

murpho999 wrote: »

I hate when people say this. GoT is hardly a show with a lot of filler.

Just because an episode does not contain major dramatic moments does not mean it's filler.
You can have plenty of character development or scene setting that does not mean it is just filler.

I would class the Greyworm/Messandri lovestory, telling jokes, getting drunk etc as filler. There's plenty in the show that adds nothing to fill the time in between the more expensive episodes.

murpho999

Paddy Cow wrote: »

I would class the Greyworm/Messandri lovestory, telling jokes, getting drunk etc as filler. There's plenty in the show that adds nothing to fill the time in between the more expensive episodes.

I would regard it is character development and also establishing relationships between characters so you know where loyalties may lie.

Can also be some comic relief in an often intense show.

Just because a scene does not move a story forward, it does not mean it's a bad thing.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

There's undeniably filler and plot points that are stretched way out or characters who just have basically the same scene/'development' several times over; but it's there for a reason usually. Character A has to do thing Y before Character B can do thing X, so until A does Y B doesn't have much to do, but if B's a big character we still need to check in with them.

In the earlier seasons characters just sitting around talking to each other in a way that didn't propel the plot were some of the best bits - Robert and Ned, Cersei and Robert, Tywin and anyone. And there still are scenes like that - Cersei and Olenna, and Jaime and Edmure from this season, off the top of my head. But Greyworm and Missandei fell flat for me, and things like the Sandsnakes having mad bantz I think we can safely say the show could have lived without.

It's subjective though, one of the first ones that perplexed me was the whole Podrick Payne: Love God little diversion, found it cringy rather than funny and didn't see the point of it being there. But other people really liked it. There'll always have to be filler because of the amount of characters, and they can't please all the people all the time with it, but I'd say things will get leaner and faster now. Things moved at a ferocious pace this last season compared to all previous ones like.

paulie21

Been confirmed for July 16th

johnnyskeleton

I cancelled my sky recently. The only thing that gave me a moments pause was missing game of thrones. Its a great end of spring start of summer show to watch on sunday nights. But with the delays and zany scripts, i think ill wait till its on dvd and watch it at xmas

Agent Coulson

The teaser trailer.

Lady Spangles

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

Never heard that rumour. I always thought it was the Meereenese knot that held him up with ADWD.

Didn't he write Feast for Crows as a "five years later" set up going on, then decided he himself hated it and started over again? I've definitely read that a few times.

Sleepy

Yep, the "flash forward" was what originally derailed the progress on the books. He found he kept having to flashback into that 5 year gap to explain things so re-did the entire novel causing himself a 5 year delay.

The "Meerenese Knot" was the problems he was having in Dance With Dragons in getting all the characters he needed to converge in Mereen there in a convincing fashion that fit the timelines

RobbingBandit

Weird mistake in the video there

When you hear Qyburn announcing Cersei as queen it captions High Septon

Falthyron

First trailer for Game of Stares. Walking is Coming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxWfvtnHtS0

bnt

Those who find themselves ridiculous, sit down next to me ...

Ben Gadot

Nice little promo and gives away more about the focus of Season 7 than one might think.

paulbok

Cersci's Icy breath, is she to become a white walker?

That'll be a nice profile lift for James.

Dany will be

already in what looks like Dragonstone by the time the new season starts? I like that, get right into it.

That said, she probably won't do much now until the last few episodes of Season 8, getting caught up in local politics and conflicts on some isles surrounding

Dragonstone

in the meantime :pac:

When I think of the show, I often forget that that the last two episodes of season 6 killed off many characters and storylines. Just off the top of my head, Ramsay and the Boltons, poor Rickon, Margery, Loras and basically the future of House Tyrell, Lancel and Kevan Lannister, Tommen, the High Sparrow, Pycelle, Walder Frey.

The show is now arguably the leanest its been since its first season, and at only seven episodes I really hope they make the most of every scene with little to no needless filler thrown in. I'm not expecting every episode to raise the bar and redefine television (just the last two!) but I am hopeful for a focused, concise story. The show has done very well in fairness at setting the pieces in place for the final two seasons, I hope they make the most of that good work.

With that said, for example, if we never see Dorne again that's just fine with me.

Arghus

Promo ruined by terrible music choice.

Ben Gadot

Arghus wrote: »

Promo ruined by terrible music choice.

Words are well suited if you listen to them tbh.

It's not like it's the first time the show has taken mad choices in terms of music. For example the bizarre choice of heavy metal music to the sound of Jaime's maiming.

Arghus

Ben Gadot wrote: »

Words are well suited if you listen to them tbh.

It's not like it's the first time the show has taken mad choices in terms of music. For example the bizarre choice of heavy metal music to the sound of Jaime's maiming.

Oh the words are hard to miss - they're so on the nose they make me cringe! Just all felt a bit cheesy and obvious to me.

duploelabs

Ben Gadot wrote: »

Words are well suited if you listen to them tbh.

It's not like it's the first time the show has taken mad choices in terms of music. For example the bizarre choice of heavy metal music to the sound of Jaime's maiming.

That was the Bear and the Maiden fair, practically the only song that exists in westeros apart from the rains of castlemyr

Paddy Cow

paulbok wrote: »

Cersci's Icy breath, is she to become a white walker?

I thought it meant that winter has finally reached sunny King's Landing.

Agent Coulson

Trailer

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Nymeria is watching Arya i think, or maybe bran warging through her, she may be taking up the LS storyline.
Liked seeing The Mountain has been styled with a mix of cylon/vader, with the black and silver which seems to be the queensguard colours now, and could explain the new sidyl on his chest

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Whispered

Watching that I feel like Ive forgotten half of what went on. I'm sure it'll all come back to me!

Ben Gadot

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Wow - 2 days have passed and not one comment on the trailer!

I will begin.

Looks like Dany is attacking Casterly Rock - I wonder if they are going to put Tyrion in charge there - he IS the heir since Jaime became a Kingsguard?

Looks like someone is watching Arya? I certainly hope its the Hound - they were great onscreen together.

Could that be Jorah Mormonts scaly arm we catch glimpse of?

Most interesting part of the trailer (for me) is what looks like Jon Snow slamming Littlefinger into a wall in the crypt of Winterfell. Could Littlefinger be revealing Jons parentage to him (does Littlefinger know his parentage?). Or could Jon be warning him to stay away from Sansa?

I wouldn't say LF is dropping that bomb on Jon.

If I had to guess I'd say he's making a wormy negative comparison between Jon and Ned in their political nous.

Nice to see Jon in ful wilding get up.

Paddy Cow

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He is the Hand of the Queen, her most trusted adviser and knows Westeros inside out. No way is she leaving him at Casterly Rock. Plus he murdered his father and would likely end up dead himself if left there

duploelabs

Im not the only one with the Nymeria theory

J. Marston

Second trailer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mlhnt0jMlg

Got chills watching it. In terms of battles, this shorter season looks like it's going all out.

Can't wait.