Euro 2016 - The Final - Portugal vs France, 20:00, RTE, TV3, BBC, ITV

mansize

Here's Giles montage

https://twitter.com/rtesoccer/status/752264394055168001

mansize

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Think they missed bringing Benzema to the tournament tbh.....

They couldn't though tbf

BorneTobyWilde

Giving it to PEPE is to make the French feel better. It's like they had an impossible task facing the best player on the night.

Vincent Vega

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Dunno why Deschamps brought on gignac, hes more of a donkey than giroud. Thought he bottled if by not taking pogba off and instead hooked payet. Very strange decision.

Bit unfair.
He turned Pepe inside out and was mere cm's away from winning it for France with that shot that came off the post.

BorneTobyWilde

mansize wrote: »

Here's Giles montage

https://twitter.com/rtesoccer/status/752264394055168001

A real life leprechaun at the beginning .

Ardent

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Sad to see Giles go.

Who'll get the nod for his seat? Sadlier?

There are loads of lads who can rotate in that seat - Sadlier, Cunningham, Duff, etc.

BorneTobyWilde

Giles would kill his granny .

Iused2likebusts

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

The game is much more intense now and as a result players are completely bolloxed by the end of the season and can't give their best at international tournaments.

Messi has never displayed his full Barcelona form for Argentina , likewise with Ronaldo for Portugal,

So many top players didn't play well and it's because it's much more difficult these days to play well in international tournaments.

The game is more attacking now than it has been in about 50 years and there are a lot more creative players. It's just foolish to judge the game on a 4 week tournament played at the end of the season when the players can't play their best due to tiredness.

I'm not just basing my opinions on this tournament. Apart from Ronaldo all the real entertaining players are south American. I don't think Europe is producing that type of player anymore.

Mr.Nice Guy

Ardent wrote: »

There are loads of lads who can rotate in that seat - Sadlier, Cunningham, Duff, etc.

Is it a swivel chair?

Ardent

Ardent wrote: »

There are loads of lads who can rotate in that seat - Sadlier, Cunningham, Duff, etc.

Sadlier is a good pundit. The other two are not bad either.

Nerdlingr

Vincent Vega wrote: »

Bit unfair.
He turned Pepe inside out and was mere cm's away from winning it for France with that shot that came off the post.

He's a jourmeyman plying his trade in Mexico who anytime I've seen shoots on sight and doesn't see the big picture and isn't clinical enough. Really thought martial deserved to come on and run at the Portuguese because pepe and fonte had the target men sown up all night.

BorneTobyWilde

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Giles would kill his granny .

That was an unusual one alright!

JustTheOne

Who needs pundits anyway.

I am perfectly capable of watching and analysing a football match myself.

Concannon7

I'll miss Giles, his been there as long as I remember.

I hope Sadler gets his chair.

iroced

Kobe248 wrote: »

No Deschamps is a joke

He has got lucky so many times in the tournament

He really is a terrible manager

Plus he only brought Martial on as Portugal has scored

Kante was his original sub

Yeah. He's a terrible manager who brought Monaco to CL final (of course everyone was expecting them to cruise the CL that year :rolleyes:). He gave back titles to Marseille, the first ones for the club since he left it as a player 20 years or so before. And now he built a French squad, a real squad that the whole country is happy to shout for and support after 8/10 years of catastrophies and affairs.

You really have zero knowledge of French football. But go on that's your celebration night tonight :pac:.

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Dunno why Deschamps brought on gignac, hes more of a donkey than giroud. Thought he bottled if by not taking pogba off and instead hooked payet. Very strange decision.

Gignac hit the inner post in the 92nd min.
Giroud was probably worn out.

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Think they missed bringing Benzema to the tournament tbh.....

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Think they definitely would have won it with benzema but he deserved to be left out under the circumstances.

Can you cite 1 great game he played for us?

BorneTobyWilde

JustTheOne wrote: »

Who needs pundits anyway.

I am perfectly capable of watching and analysing a football match myself.

What did you make of the moths performance tonight .

mansize

Nerdlingr wrote: »

He's a jourmeyman plying his trade in Mexico who anytime I've seen shoots on sight and doesn't see the big picture and isn't clinical enough. Really thought martial deserved to come on and run at the Portuguese because pepe and fonte had the target men sown up all night.

Martial wasn't up to much when he did

BorneTobyWilde

mansize wrote: »

Martial wasn't up to much when he did

No fight
Martial Arts it was not .

RedemptionZ

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

The game is much more intense now and as a result players are completely bolloxed by the end of the season and can't give their best at international tournaments.

Messi has never displayed his full Barcelona form for Argentina , likewise with Ronaldo for Portugal,

So many top players didn't play well and it's because it's much more difficult these days to play well in international tournaments.

The game is more attacking now than it has been in about 50 years and there are a lot more creative players. It's just foolish to judge the game on a 4 week tournament played at the end of the season when the players can't play their best due to tiredness.

I'm not just basing my opinions on this tournament. Apart from Ronaldo all the real entertaining players are south American. I don't think Europe is producing that type of player anymore.

A European XI would absolutely hammer a South American XI. There are so many entertaining European players. In terms of top players, Ronaldo, Ibra, Griezmann, Bale are all among the best in the world and European.

Lavinia

anyway after all's finished now I just have to say once again that was a terrific goal. one of the best of this tournament imo...

and on that note, goodnight, was fun! :')

Cypher_sounds

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Tbf every ref makes mistakes:D

Ah sure how can every ref not see in real time what the viewers see in super slow mos a few times. Joke of a ref :rolleyes:

glued

Jose Fonte has had a great tournament too. Wouldn't be surprised to see someone try and buy him, even at 32.

RoboKlopp

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Pogba being found out in this tournament

That he aint a DM ya your prob right

Dirty Dingus McGee

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I'm not just basing my opinions on this tournament. Apart from Ronaldo all the real entertaining players are south American. I don't think Europe is producing that type of player anymore.

Griezmann,Payet,Bale,Ronaldo,Ozil,Coman,Martial,Hamsik,David Silva,Tiago Alcantara,Iniesta,Hakan Calhanolglu,Modric,Peresic,Rakatic,De Bruyne,Hazard,Carrasco,Nani,Moutihnio etc.etc

Whats happened is that the skilful players are less flawed than they were before and don't give the ball away as much and work harder for the team and therefore it looks like they have less flair than a less complete player from the past who may not have worked as hard for the team to the same extent as players do now.

BorneTobyWilde

Roll on the Olimpdics

Dirty Dingus McGee

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Griezmann,Payet,Bale,Ronaldo,Ozil,Coman,Martial,Hamsik,David Silva,Tiago Alcantara,Iniesta,Hakan Calhanolglu,Modric,Peresic,Rakatic,De Bruyne,Hazard,Carrasco,Nani,Moutihnio etc.etc

Whats happened is that the skilful players are less flawed than they were before and don't give the ball away as much and work harder for the team and therefore it looks like they have less flair than a less complete player from the past who may not have worked as hard for the team to the same extent as players do now.

I agree to an extent but the flipside of that is that it also shows that there is not enough of risk takers

Kobe248

iroced wrote: »

Yeah. He's a terrible manager who brought Monaco to CL final (of course everyone was expecting them to cruise the CL that year :rolleyes:). He gave back titles to Marseille, the first ones for the club since he left it as a player 20 years or so before. And now he built a French squad, a real squad that the whole country is happy to shout for and support after 8/10 years of catastrophies and affairs.

You really have zero knowledge of French football. But go on that's your celebration night tonight :pac:.


Gignac hit the inner post in the 92nd min.
Giroud was probably worn out.



Can you cite 1 great game he played for us?

I lived in France so think my French football is a little better than yours

Deschamps picks teams based on what the media say

He's a coward of a manager

How did he do in the final once he come up against a good manager both times he lost

People were willing to cheer Deschamps because he was the captain of a world cup winning team

They wanted a white former leader of this mainly black team

mansize

https://twitter.com/artisticzayn/status/752269239801749504

Nerdlingr

mansize wrote: »

Martial wasn't up to much when he did

What was he on for ...5 minutes? Against a team that was one up and defending for their lives. Great amount of time to have an impact alright.

Thought he might have been a different option for France since gicnac was basically a like for like replacement.

Laois_Man

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Sad to see Giles go.

Who'll get the nod for his seat? Sadlier?

Kerr!

Dirty Dingus McGee

M!Ck^ wrote: »

I agree to an extent but the flipside of that is that it also shows that there is not enough of risk takers

You do miss that aspect a little, a player like Matt Le Tissier (who was a pure genius but a flawed player) would not be tolerated as much in today's game I suspect, but it is a team game and teams can't carry passengers anymore I would say that because of the pace of the game these days mistakes would be punished much ore severely than they were in the past.

El Chapo

Love this.

siblers

Laois_Man wrote: »

Kerr!

Kerr should be back working for the FAI, madness they haven't him working on developing the structure of Irish football. It'll probably be Saddler or Kenny to replace Giles. Possibly Duff.

The_Kew_Tour

Delighted to see the Great Ronaldo lift a major trophy with his country. Never ran away.

Thought Portugal were excellent as a team, gave great guts and always believed

Stunning winner

Iused2likebusts

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Griezmann,Payet,Bale,Ronaldo,Ozil,Coman,Martial,Hamsik,David Silva,Tiago Alcantara,Iniesta,Hakan Calhanolglu,Modric,Peresic,Rakatic,De Bruyne,Hazard,Carrasco,Nani,Moutihnio etc.etc

Whats happened is that the skilful players are less flawed than they were before and don't give the ball away as much and work harder for the team and therefore it looks like they have less flair than a less complete player from the past who may not have worked as hard for the team to the same extent as players do now.

All great players im not disputing that.I watch football for entertainment and the players of the past that took more risks or do skills just for the sake of it are the ones I prefer to watch. That type of player in Europe is a dying breed as football has become less off the cuff. Natural skill and risktaking is getting somewhat coached out of the game and I don't find football as enjoyable to watch as I used to.

Headshot

Headshot wrote: »

Deschamps should get sacked straight away. One of the best group of French players for some time but they are far from a "team" just a group of individuals with poor team selection and tactics

This 100% surprised he got off light with so many on here.

The Giroud Giganc sub every game was baffling if your tatics arent working sure bring oin a simialr but worse player and see how it goes.

Laois_Man

siblers wrote: »

Kerr should be back working for the FAI, madness they haven't him working on developing the structure of Irish football. It'll probably be Saddler or Kenny to replace Giles. Possibly Duff.

Not sure if Kerr has burnt his bridges in the FAI - They weren't getting on years ago anyway

I any case, they're not utually exclusive jobs. You can work in youth development and be a pundit at the same time

Dirty Dingus McGee

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

All great players im not disputing that.I watch football for entertainment and the players of the past that took more risks or do skills just for the sake of it are the ones I prefer to watch. That type of player in Europe is a dying breed as football has become less off the cuff. Natural skill and risktaking is getting somewhat coached out of the game and I don't find football as enjoyable to watch as I used to.

But that is not the point of the game and extremely self indulgent behaviour and it is probably rightly discouraged by coaches.

There is nothing more frustrating than watching loads of skill without an end product.

Ardent

El Chapo wrote: »

Love this.

Is that Alex Ferguson?

Shanotheslayer

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Delighted to see the Great Ronaldo lift a major trophy with his country. Never ran away.

Couldn't run very far with an injured knee?

Say Your Number

Fell asleep after 70 mins and woke up to Portugal lifting the trophy, was a bit surreal.

I'd forgotten that Portugal had finished 3rd in their group, they'd have gone home after the group stage in the old format.

Disappointed we didn't get a big end of tournament montage from RTE

This tweet sums it up for me

https://twitter.com/kenearlys/status/752260382832594945

Iused2likebusts

Kobe248 wrote: »

I lived in France so think my French football is a little better than yours

Deschamps picks teams based on what the media say

He's a coward of a manager

How did he do in the final once he come up against a good manager both times he lost

People were willing to cheer Deschamps because he was the captain of a world cup winning team

They wanted a white former leader of this mainly black team

Iroced is from France so I'm sure he knows what he is talking about when it comes to the French team.

iroced

Kobe248 wrote: »

I lived in France so think my French football is a little better than yours

Deschamps picks teams based on what the media say

He's a coward of a manager

How did he do in the final once he come up against a good manager both times he lost

People were willing to cheer Deschamps because he was the captain of a world cup winning team

They wanted a white former leader of this mainly black team

I'm French and don't care what you think about what your knowledge is. You obviously have no clue what you're talking about and I'm gonna ask you to stop your racist bullsh*t abuse at my country!

mansize

mansize

Kobe248 wrote: »

I lived in France so think my French football is a little better than yours

Deschamps picks teams based on what the media say

He's a coward of a manager

How did he do in the final once he come up against a good manager both times he lost

People were willing to cheer Deschamps because he was the captain of a world cup winning team

They wanted a white former leader of this mainly black team

Say what???

fryup

why wasn't kante picked?

Iused2likebusts

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

But that is not the point of the game and extremely self indulgent behaviour and it is probably rightly discouraged by coaches.

There is nothing more frustrating than watching loads of skill without an end product.

I know that. I'm not taliking about the soccer am showboating stuff with no end product . I'm talking about players like Hagi, prosinecki, Figo, Zidane, rui Costa, Ronaldo from a few years back, neymar etc. There was/is an end product from these players. I think football has become a bit too pre planned at times and weaker teams can set up to stifle a superior team as the play is very predictable. You touched on it yourself with the le tissier type player.
I'm personally finding most football quite boring at the minute and with ronaldo and Messi now more than likely past their peak I'm not sure it's going to get any better.

French throwing 'le sulk' it seems....

https://twitter.com/SkyKaveh/status/752271898763988992

The Talking Bread

mansize wrote: »

I prefer the second photo. Its a better sight to end a weekend on!"

JinkyJackson

Iused2likebusts wrote:

I know that. I'm not taliking about the soccer am showboating stuff with no end product . I'm talking about players like Hagi, prosinecki, Figo, Zidane, rui Costa, Ronaldo from a few years back, neymar etc. There was/is an end product from these players. I think football has become a bit too pre planned at times and weaker teams can set up to stifle a superior team as the play is very predictable. You touched on it yourself with the le tissier type player. I'm personally finding most football quite boring at the minute and with ronaldo and Messi now more than likely past their peak I'm not sure it's going to get any better.

You are suffering from Nostalgia or else you don't watch enough football

Suarez
Neymar
Messi
Augero
James Rodriguez
Douglas Costa
Bale

All skillfull risk takers with end product. There is many more of these types of players across Europe