Black Lives Matter protest in Dublin

unseenfootage

20Cent wrote: »

Another black man shot this week in Miami. He is a caregiver working with someone with autism. Shot while holding his hands up. When he asked why cop says I don't know, they then handcuff him!
Police excuse now is that they were aiming for the autistic guy!

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article91160077.html

Other footage from a cop dash am showing a black lady being thrown to the ground and violently arrested. Amazingly the cop says black people have violent tendencies while arresting her.
https://m.mic.com/articles/149477/officer-arresting-breaion-king-caught-on-video-saying-blacks-have-violent-tendencies#.APC7PTk1V

This is pathetic!
Did the caregiver not say to them that the patient is autistic.
Could they not see that that was a plastic truck.
I call BS on this.
There is an epidermic of Police corruption that needs to be fixed.
Hilary Clinton promised to retrain all of them at a cost of $1 Billion.
Desperately needed.!

unseenfootage

Complete Scumbag wrote: »

Maybe if the blacks weren't committing so much crime less of them would be getting shot. Just a thought.

Whites commit lots of crime too. They don't get shot at the same rate as black people. Police manage to deescalate even the ones holding guns.

What crime did the black caregiver commit?
What crime did Tamir Rice commit?

Letree

More black people will be shot, more hispanics will be shot and more white people will be shot. That is the nature of policing a country with so many guns. BLM seem to believe they should be immune from the harsh reality of policing american streets.

unseenfootage

Complete Scumbag wrote: »

Perhaps blacks should protest against violence committed by other blacks. 60 people shot in Chicago on 4th of July.

I notice that you avoided responding to my questions.
You probably here to spew rhetoric rather than to engage in meaningful discussion.

Billy86

Perhaps people shouldn't make up fake accounts to post inflammatory nonsense on, in a desperate cry for attention?

unseenfootage

Letree wrote: »

More black people will be shot, more hispanics will be shot and more white people will be shot. That is the nature of policing a country with so many guns. BLM seem to believe they should be immune from the harsh reality of policing american streets.

They don't believe that. You believe that they believe that. You believe wrong.

Fact: A disproportionate amount of Black people in America are wrongly killed by American police.

Renegade Mechanic

unseenfootage wrote: »

They don't believe that. You believe that they believe that. You believe wrong.

Fact: A disproportionate amount of Black people in America are wrongly killed by American police.

Fact: A disproportionate amount of Black people in America are wrongly involved in the kind of thing that gets police attention to begin with...
The high profile cases where Blacks are wrongly killed are a drop in that particular ocean, but do show the other side to the "There's two of them in it", argument.

Police corruption is rife - why wouldn't it be - but so to are crime levels among the black population.

Millions of poor black people live without engaging in crime. Are we to ignore them by pitying and adjusting the laws and world to suit the ones who don't? I won't pity them any more than whites who do the same, but the disproportionality right now doesn't lie with whites.

Arcade_Tryer

Amazing that all it takes in the 21st century for racism and sexism to become popular points of view again is a black civil rights movement and a female US presidential candidate. The more we change, the more things stay the same.

Lt Dan

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

Amazing that all it takes in the 21st century for racism and sexism to become popular points of view again is a black civil rights movement and a female US presidential candidate. The more we change, the more things stay the same.

Dislike of Hillary has little to do with her gender.

While there clearly is a shoot to kill policy in the US, pointing out that members of the black community do not help themselves and pointing out the forever need to play the victim is not racism. Hell, even some well known black people are saying this (Charles Barkley - influential former NBA player - he is respected amongst sports fans of all colour, so he is relevant)

There should be bans or reprimands for the lazy misuse of terms that end in "ism"

osmiumartist

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

Amazing that all it takes in the 21st century for racism and sexism to become popular points of view again is

Did you notice the black president?
Woeful.

TSMGUY

Lt Dan wrote: »

Dislike of Hillary has little to do with her gender.

While there clearly is a shoot to kill policy in the US, pointing out that members of the black community do not help themselves and pointing out the forever need to play the victim is not racism. Hell, even some well known black people are saying this (Charles Barkley - influential former NBA player - he is respected amongst sports fans of all colour, so he is relevant)

There should be bans or reprimands for the lazy misuse of terms that end in "ism"

Oh good, Charles Barkley is an Uncle Tom of the highest caliber. And I resent that term "black community", it's just a politically correct way for you to lump all black people together like we're some monolithic entity who all have one consensus hivemind and are jointly responsible for the **** ups every black person. Agree about Hilary though.

Little CuChulainn

TSMGUY wrote: »

Oh good, Charles Barkley is an Uncle Tom of the highest caliber. And I resent that term "black community", it's just a politically correct way for you to lump all black people together like we're some monolithic entity who all have one consensus hivemind and are jointly responsible for the **** ups every black person. Agree about Hilary though.

Are you a black American? If so, he doesn't have to lump all black people together. A number of organisations in America have already done that. If you're not American, it's nothing really to do with you no matter what colour you are.

TSMGUY

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Are you a black American? If so, he doesn't have to lump all black people together. A number of organisations in America have already done that. If you're not American, it's nothing really to do with you no matter what colour you are.

A black Irishman, although the term "black community" is used nauseatingly often worldwide to justify subtle bigotry. It's a nasty term used to conceal racist blanket generalizations. If you're going to rebuke a whole race of people, at least have the balls to say it bluntly is my point.

Letree

A black BLM activist at BLM protest in Philadelphia told white people to get to the back.

TSMGUY

Letree wrote: »

A black BLM activist at BLM protest in Philadelphia told white people to get to the back.

Well that's obviously silly and racist off that protester. He might regret it in the same way Malcolm X regretted telling that white lady she couldn't help. Or he might go on being a dick.....

unseenfootage

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Fact: A disproportionate amount of Black people in America are wrongly involved in the kind of thing that gets police attention to begin with...
The high profile cases where Blacks are wrongly killed are a drop in that particular ocean, but do show the other side to the "There's two of them in it", argument.

Police corruption is rife - why wouldn't it be - but so to are crime levels among the black population.

Millions of poor black people live without engaging in crime. Are we to ignore them by pitying and adjusting the laws and world to suit the ones who don't? I won't pity them any more than whites who do the same, but the disproportionality right now doesn't lie with whites.

I cannot see what "crime statistics" have anything to do with wrongful killings of black men by trigger happy police officers. But if you want to go that route then take note that white america was built on crime and to a large extent it survives on crime; in the treasury, wall street and on capitol hill.

Even if every single black male in America was a dope dealer, nothing justifies police shooting suspects who pose no threat. In the land of the free, you are innocent until proven guilty.

Did you hear about Philando Castile, an upstanding black American male, with no criminal record, whose life was snuffed out by a white police officer in a routine traffic stop.

What about Tamir Rice, a 12 year old kid who was playing in the park with a toy pistol, when police pulled up and snuffed his life out.

It is no consolation to the families of these black males that their tragic deaths are a drop in an ocean. One wrongful death is one death too many.

No one is asking you for your pity. All we say is that if you want to criticize their movement for justice then show them where you have condemned their oppression.

TSMGUY

unseenfootage wrote: »

I cannot see what "crime statistics" have anything to do with wrongful killings of black men by trigger happy police officers. But if you want to go that route then take note that white america was built on crime and to a large extent it survives on crime; in the treasury, wall street and on capitol hill.

Even if every single black male in America was a dope dealer, nothing justifies police shooting suspects who pose no threat. In the land of the free, you are innocent until proven guilty.

Did you hear about Philando Castile, an upstanding black American male, with no criminal record, whose life was snuffed out by a white police officer in a routine traffic stop.

What about Tamir Rice, a 12 year old kid who was playing in the park with a toy pistol, when police pulled up and snuffed his life out.

It is no consolation to the families of these black males that their tragic deaths are a drop in an ocean. One wrongful death is one death too many.

No one is asking you for your pity. All we say is that if you want to criticize their movement for justice then show them where you have condemned their oppression.

THIS GUY GETS IT!

Arcade_Tryer

Lt Dan wrote: »

Dislike of Hillary has little to do with her gender.

There should be bans or reprimands for the lazy misuse of terms that end in "ism"

Dislike of Hillary Clinton has lots to do with her gender.

There shouldn't be bans or reprimands for arguments based on racism and sexism. But these arguments do exist. And have become far more prevalent over the last year or so especially. To deny that is like denying that Donald Trump is a presidential candidate.

osmiumartist wrote: »

Did you notice the black president?
Woeful.

Did you notice not only the amount of blatant racism directed towards Obama over the last decade, but also the criticism and hatred quite clearly hidden behind racist motivations? Woeful.

Billy86

Has any other US president ever been asked almost daily to show his birth certificate so they know he is actually an American, or been negatively accused probably hundreds of thousands of times at this point of being a religion he is not?

TSMGUY

Billy86 wrote: »

Has any other US president ever been asked almost daily to show his birth certificate so they know he is actually an American, or been negatively accused probably hundreds of thousands of times at this point of being a religion he is not?

In fairness it all started because Hawaii was the last state to be made a state and conveniently for his naysayers he was born only 2 years after it became a state. And the founding fathers were quite often "accused" of being atheists/deists.....

Billy86

TSMGUY wrote: »

In fairness it all started because Hawaii was the last state to be made a state and conveniently for his naysayers he was born only 2 years after it became a state. And the founding fathers were quite often "accused" of being atheists/deists.....

Well yeah, wasn't the irony that the USA was in part founded to give religious freedom and as a secular state (all that 'one nation under God' stuff is fairly new in the scheme of things). I don't think it was ever used as a reason 'not to vote for that guy' though - but could very well be wrong.

The Hawaii bit never had much credibility though. He was born two years after it was made a state... so I don't see what the issue is? Two years is a pretty big amount of time, after all. More importantly though, the focus was very, very rarely on Hawaii's statehood and instead was far more on his father, which the Republicans loved to use to label him a 'Kenyan Muslim' (amongst many other things).

TSMGUY

Billy86 wrote: »

Well yeah, wasn't the irony that the USA was in part founded to give religious freedom and as a secular state (all that 'one nation under God' stuff is fairly new in the scheme of things). I don't think it was ever used as a reason 'not to vote for that guy' though - but could very well be wrong.

The Hawaii bit never had much credibility though. He was born two years after it was made a state... so I don't see what the issue is? Two years is a pretty big amount of time, after all. More importantly though, the focus was very, very rarely on Hawaii's statehood and instead was far more on his father, which the Republicans loved to use to label him a 'Kenyan Muslim' (amongst many other things).

Well his father was a staunch atheist, so I never understood that. Tbf every bit of "dirt" possible is used against aspiring Presidents - psychiatric history, religion, quotes, friends etc. Name of the game. Mitt Rommney being a mormon was used against him.

mynamejeff

unseenfootage wrote: »

I cannot see what "crime statistics" have anything to do with wrongful killings of black men by trigger happy police officers. But if you want to go that route then take note that white america was built on crime and to a large extent it survives on crime; in the treasury, wall street and on capitol hill.

Even if every single black male in America was a dope dealer, nothing justifies police shooting suspects who pose no threat. In the land of the free, you are innocent until proven guilty.

Did you hear about Philando Castile, an upstanding black American male, with no criminal record, whose life was snuffed out by a white police officer in a routine traffic stop.

What about Tamir Rice, a 12 year old kid who was playing in the park with a toy pistol, when police pulled up and snuffed his life out.

It is no consolation to the families of these black males that their tragic deaths are a drop in an ocean. One wrongful death is one death too many.

No one is asking you for your pity. All we say is that if you want to criticize their movement for justice then show them where you have condemned their oppression.

let me explain it to you so.
Who is the most likely person to be involved in criminal activity
Who is likely to have a weapon and threaten or take the life of a police officer
who is likely to shoot first because if apprehended they face a long time in jail

you site two cases of poor policing , ill give you two that were the justified but still attracted the outrage of BLM racists

Micheal Brown was a violent criminal fleeing a crime scene who attacked a police officer who was alone and in the event that brown had disarmed him would likely have been murdered.

Alton Sterling was a violent criminal who was brawling with police and reached for a illegal firearm which would have seen him in jail for a long time had he been caught with it.

both cases had police doing their jobs in the face of vicious racism from politically motivated professional protesters which resulted in the deaths of more and more innocent people

TSMGUY

mynamejeff wrote: »

let me explain it to you so.
Who is the most likely person to be involved in criminal activity
Who is likely to have a weapon and threaten or take the life of a police officer
who is likely to shoot first because if apprehended they face a long time in jail

you site two cases of poor policing , ill give you two that were the justified but still attracted the outrage of BLM racists

Micheal Brown was a violent criminal fleeing a crime scene who attacked a police officer who was alone and in the event that brown had disarmed him would likely have been murdered.

Alton Sterling was a violent criminal who was brawling with police and reached for a illegal firearm which would have seen him in jail for a long time had he been caught with it.

both cases had police doing their jobs in the face of vicious racism from politically motivated professional protesters which resulted in the deaths of more and more innocent people

Apparently your answer to the bolded rhetorical questions is "black men, regardless of their individual innocence." You seem like a nice person.

mynamejeff

TSMGUY wrote: »

Apparently your answer to the bolded rhetorical questions is "black men, regardless of their individual innocence." You seem like a nice person.

and you dont seem to understand what i ve said.


If you knew statistically that red cars were more likely to be involved in car crashes would you drive a red car ?

TSMGUY

mynamejeff wrote: »

and you dont seem to understand what i ve said.


If you knew statistically that red cars were more likely to be involved in car crashes would you drive a red car ?

Jesus, even your analogies dehumanize black men. Cheers.

mynamejeff

TSMGUY wrote: »

Jesus, even your analogies dehumanize black men. Cheers.

aw stop would you ....

its a very simple concept

your just too busy feeling and playing the victim

TSMGUY

mynamejeff wrote: »

aw stop would you ....

its a very simple concept

your just too busy feeling and playing the victim

You're very explicitly saying that as a black guy I should be treated with more hostility and suspicion by police. How am I playing the victim?

mynamejeff

TSMGUY wrote: »

You're very explicitly saying that as a black guy I should be treated with more hostility and suspicion by police. How am I playing the victim?

do you live in america where statistically young black males are more likely to be involved in crime ?

or do you live in Ireland where i would suggest that criminality among black males is much lower ?

not all black men in Ireland are walking around crying woo is me you know.

Outlaw Pete

Letree wrote: »

A black BLM activist at BLM protest in Philadelphia told white people to get to the back.

Yeah, seen that. Here's the video of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11ADOLRmXlg

Just shows you that with a lot of these BLM activists, it's really about attention than anything else and they don't want that diluted. Same thing happened here in Dublin when a abortion activist said that the men present who were there that made placards and wrote articles that they should "know their place". For once, I actually felt bad for the male feminists.

end of the road

mynamejeff wrote: »

let me explain it to you so.
Who is the most likely person to be involved in criminal activity
Who is likely to have a weapon and threaten or take the life of a police officer
who is likely to shoot first because if apprehended they face a long time in jail

they're is no particular skin colour more likely to shoot then the other. they're is something called proportion, which goes out the window in some cases when it comes to blacks.

mynamejeff wrote: »

you site two cases of poor policing , ill give you two that were the justified but still attracted the outrage of BLM racists

Micheal Brown was a violent criminal fleeing a crime scene who attacked a police officer who was alone and in the event that brown had disarmed him would likely have been murdered.

apart from him being a criminal, the rest is speculation.

mynamejeff wrote: »

Alton Sterling was a violent criminal who was brawling with police and reached for a illegal firearm which would have seen him in jail for a long time had he been caught with it.

apart from him supposibly being a criminal, the rest is speculation.

mynamejeff wrote: »

both cases had police doing their jobs in the face of vicious racism from politically motivated professional protesters which resulted in the deaths of more and more innocent people

incorrect.

mynamejeff

end of the road wrote: »

they're is no particular skin colour more likely to shoot then the other. they're is something called proportion, which goes out the window in some cases when it comes to blacks.



apart from him being a criminal, the rest is speculation.



apart from him supposibly being a criminal, the rest is speculation.



incorrect.

statistically you should read this

http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime/19439

although i doubt empirical evidence will have any effect on you as it never does

A exhaustive investigation using forensic evidence ballistic evidence and truthful witness statements proved that Micheal Brown having committed a robbery was confronted by a police officer and attempted to over power a police officer and was lawfully killed as a consequence of his action .The hands up dont shoot narrative is and always was a lie. This is proved fact . ignore it if you wish but you are incorrect .
had a criminal record that included violent offenses and a 2009 conviction for carrying a firearm while in possession of a controlled substance (marijuana). He was a criminal who was carrying a gun which he reached for while fighting with the police .

Watch the video if a video of the facts fails to make them clear then why would i bother ?

lawlolawl

Billy86 wrote: »

Has any other US president ever been asked almost daily to show his birth certificate so they know he is actually an American, or been negatively accused probably hundreds of thousands of times at this point of being a religion he is not?

No, people just thought that Bush was a lizard man.

Little CuChulainn

TSMGUY wrote: »

A black Irishman, although the term "black community" is used nauseatingly often worldwide to justify subtle bigotry. It's a nasty term used to conceal racist blanket generalizations. If you're going to rebuke a whole race of people, at least have the balls to say it bluntly is my point.

It's pretty obvious people are referring to the US when they talk about blm and the black community. The only person trying to lump all black people together is you. There really is no comparing the situation of black people in America to anywhere else. The majority of black people in America are there because of a legacy of slavery and are at the lower end of the economy because of this. They are referred to as a community because they are represented as such by numerous advocacy groups.

Zxclnic

mynamejeff wrote: »

and you dont seem to understand what i ve said.


If you knew statistically that red cars were more likely to be involved in car crashes would you drive a red car ?

That's a very silly analogy, but if I were a safe and careful driver, then yes I would.............
.................or


I'd paint the car blue - although I do like red - safe in the knowledge that I wouldn't be betraying my parents, family, culture and history, in so doing. After all, it's only a car. However....

If I were a young black man in America, I'd be a young black man in America......and not a red car in America.
So as I said it's a silly analogy not to mention insulting.
Have you ever heard of the phrase 'comparing apples and oranges'?
Well yours is worse, comparing black men with red cars.

weldoninhio

Zxclnic wrote: »

That's a very silly analogy, but if I were a safe and careful driver, then yes I would.............
.................or


I'd paint the car blue - although I do like red - safe in the knowledge that I wouldn't be betraying my parents, family, culture and history, in so doing. After all, it's only a car. However....

If I were a young black man in America, I'd be a young black man in America......and not a red car in America.
So as I said it's a silly analogy not to mention insulting.
Have you ever heard of the phrase 'comparing apples and oranges'?
Well yours is worse, comparing black men with red cars.

Such horse b0llix. It's an analogy, nothing else. There's a spate of posters on various different threads twisting and manipulating things that are said, causing arguments to bring threads off course.

To use an Irish, and motor related example, hope I'm not accused of insulting myself or anyone else.

In Ireland if you are under 24, your car insurance will be sky high, a lot higher than someone older.

That's because STATISTICALLY they are more likely to be in an accident. It's not ageist, it's not xenophobic against Irish people. It's risk weighed on the available evidence. Doesn't matter if you are 21 and the safest driver in the country.

Stats are the only evidence the cops can use, that and their own personal experience. To argue that they should pu$$yfoot around people and kill them with kindness is nonsense and doesn't work in the real world.

Zxclnic

weldoninhio wrote: »

Such horse b0llix. It's an analogy, nothing else. There's a spate of posters on various different threads twisting and manipulating things that are said, causing arguments to bring threads off course.

To use an Irish, and motor related example, hope I'm not accused of insulting myself or anyone else.

In Ireland if you are under 24, your car insurance will be sky high, a lot higher than someone older.

That's because STATISTICALLY they are more likely to be in an accident. It's not ageist, it's not xenophobic against Irish people. It's risk weighed on the available evidence. Doesn't matter if you are 21 and the safest driver in the country.

Yes, but you're not more likely to be shot by the police.

weldoninhio

Zxclnic wrote: »

Yes, but you're not more likely to be shot by the police.

Because I'm less likely to be involved in a violent crime. STATISTICALLY speaking.

Zxclnic

weldoninhio wrote: »

Because I'm less likely to be involved in a violent crime. STATISTICALLY speaking.

No, because you're not a young black American male.....STATISTICALLY speaking.

Maguined

end of the road wrote: »

apart from him being a criminal, the rest is speculation.

I'm sorry but the rest is not purely specualtion as this has gone to court has been decided. All the evidence physical and witness testimony showed that Brown attacked the police officer in his car and was shot while charging at the police officer not peacefully standing with his arms raised as the myth was portrayed.

weldoninhio

Zxclnic wrote: »

No, because you're not a young black American male.....STATISTICALLY speaking.

Exactly, so I am less likely to commit a violent crime. If I was a young black American male, there would be a much higher chance that I would be involved in a violent crime.

So since you seem to have grasped slightly the concept of statistics, we'll try to move on a bit. Why do the stats say that young black American males are more likely to be involved in violent crimes?? What causes these stats??

Zxclnic

[QUOTE=weldoninhio;100497116]Exactly, so I am less likely to commit a violent crime. If I was a young black American male, there would be a much higher chance that I would be involved in a violent crime.

So since you seem to have grasped slightly the concept of statistics, we'll try to move on a bit. Why do the stats say that young black American males are more likely to be involved in violent crimes?? What causes these stats??[/QUOTE]

If you were a young black american male, there would be a much higher chance that you would be shot by the police....
...whether or not you were involved in a violent crime.

Renegade Mechanic

unseenfootage wrote: »

I cannot see what "crime statistics" have anything to do with wrongful killings of black men by trigger happy police officers. But if you want to go that route then take note that white america was built on crime and to a large extent it survives on crime; in the treasury, wall street and on capitol hill.

Even if every single black male in America was a dope dealer, nothing justifies police shooting suspects who pose no threat. In the land of the free, you are innocent until proven guilty.

Did you hear about Philando Castile, an upstanding black American male, with no criminal record, whose life was snuffed out by a white police officer in a routine traffic stop.

What about Tamir Rice, a 12 year old kid who was playing in the park with a toy pistol, when police pulled up and snuffed his life out.

It is no consolation to the families of these black males that their tragic deaths are a drop in an ocean. One wrongful death is one death too many.

No one is asking you for your pity. All we say is that if you want to criticize their movement for justice then show them where you have condemned their oppression.

No one is getting it! Millions of "Uncle Toms" go about their business every day without crime. If anyone is getting pity from me, it's going to be them first.

I've acknowledged police corrupted, you can't actually get police without corruption so it's an automatic fact wherever you go.
My point is that the "paw man" argument is crap.
Even if you ignore the fact that there are more poor whites than poor blacks and latinos combined in America - while poor blacks engage in more crime than poor whites and latinos combined - millions of poor black people get through their lives without resorting to "the only option available to them". They're the ones that should be given any attention, not this Soros funded division tactic, "BLM"...

TSMGUY wrote:

THIS GUY GETS IT!

Because nobody wants to be an:

TSMGUY wrote:

Uncle Tom

Right? :rolleyes:
The name generally leveled at any black man accused by others of "acting white" or refusing to engage in MTV culture, if you could even call it that.

Maguined

Zxclnic wrote: »

If you were a young black american male, there would be a much higher chance that you would be shot by the police....
...whether or not you were involved in a violent crime.

Well we don't know that for sure because no one has done the stats on it. We do have the racial demographics of the US and we have the racial stats on crime and on police killings but I do not believe anyone has provided the stats on unlawful killings by police.

The police kill more white americans than black but far more black proportionately. We would need to see the unlawful killings by police stats to figure out if you are correct or not.

Zxclnic

Maguined wrote: »

Well we don't know that for sure because no one has done the stats on it. We do have the racial demographics of the US and we have the racial stats on crime and on police killings but I do not believe anyone has provided the stats on unlawful killings by police.

The police kill more white americans than black but far more black proportionately. We would need to see the unlawful killings by police stats to figure out if you are correct or not.

It's a fair point and you're not trying to be a smart arse, which makes a pleasant change on this thread.
But is not one of the main complaints of BLM one of proportionality in relation to police shootings.

weldoninhio

Zxclnic wrote: »

If you were a young black american male, there would be a much higher chance that you would be shot by the police....
...whether or not you were involved in a violent crime.

Oh so close. Get to a point where you don't like the way it's going, revert back to it being someone else's fault.

You never addressed my point. What causes the stats that say that young black American males are much more likely to be involved in a violent crime??

Zxclnic

weldoninhio wrote: »

Oh so close. Get to a point where you don't like the way it's going, revert back to it being someone else's fault.

You never addressed my point. What causes the stats that say that young black American males are much more likely to be involved in a violent crime??

That's like asking why you'll hear more working-class than middle-class accents in Mountjoy jail. Don't be silly now.

Maguined

Zxclnic wrote: »

It's a fair point and you're not trying to be a smart arse, which makes a pleasant change on this thread.
But is not one of the main complaints of BLM one of proportionality in relation to police shootings.

The problem is that BLM are not differentiating between justified and unjustified shootings. They are just using any black man shot by the police as unacceptable which is immature as there will be situations when the police have to defend themselves or others from dangerous people. There are definitely unjustified shootings taking place and those should be identified but you cannot assume every killing is unjustified and assume racism.

Little CuChulainn

Zxclnic wrote: »

If you were a young black american male, there would be a much higher chance that you would be shot by the police....
...whether or not you were involved in a violent crime.

Didn't that recent Harvard study disprove that? Didn't the figures show that police were more likely to hesitate at shooting a black man? And there was a study before that in 2013 where a number of police were put through virtual reality scenarios and showed a longer pause before shooting black people than white people. In fact, any study done in this area has shown the opposite of what you are saying.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/5/police-officers-more-hesitant-to-shoot-black-suspe/

Zxclnic

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Didn't that recent Harvard study disprove that? Didn't the figures show that police were more likely to hesitate at shooting a black man? And there was a study before that in 2013 where a number of police were put through virtual reality scenarios and showed a longer pause before shooting black people than white people. In fact, any study done in this area has shown the opposite of what you are saying.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/5/police-officers-more-hesitant-to-shoot-black-suspe/

You show me your study and I'll show you mine.....round and round we go.

What some people - not you necessarily - on this thread seem to be inferring is that most Black Americans, because of their colour and not their socio/economic background, have some sort of predisposition to criminality, this belief, in the last analysis, is racist.

http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-cops-race-injury-20160725-snap-story.html