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Transmission Diagnosis

  • 13-07-2016 4:45am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,195 ✭✭✭✭


    OK Motor experts and enthusiasts, I have a 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee, about 116k miles on it. its got unevenly worn tires, bad rear rotors, a clinky front sway bar, but that's not even the most vexing problem.

    This started happening about a month ago, shortly into a drive (<5 mins) the jeep would infrequently enter limp-mode where its stuck in 2nd/3rd gear and I can't manually override with the tiptronic handle. It starts happening when I get to a stop, only noticed it with brief stops (happened only 4 or 5 times so far) and the problem disappears when I restart the vehicle.

    To help figure this out I bought a BlueDriver module, an OBD scanner, and it came up with this code that I could only find when I scanned the codes while the problem was active (aka didn't trip the engine light)
    CODE P2767

    Definition: Input speed sensor 2 circuit - no signal

    Possible causes
    • ISS 2 (N3) signal circuit is open
    • ISS 2 (N3) signal circuit is shorted to another circuit
    • ISS 3 (N3) signal circuit is shorted to ground/chassis
    • ISS 2 ground circuit is open
    • ISS ground circuit is shorted to another circuit
    • ISS supply voltage circuit is open
    • TCM has failed

    Top Reported Fix: Replaced Transmission solenoid wiring harness

    6 frequently reported fixes
    • Replaces ABS Control Module/Hydraulic Control Unit (HCU)
    • Replaced automatic transmission
    • Replaced automatic Transmission connector
    • Replaced Input Shaft Speed (ISS) Sensor
    • Replaced Output Shaft Speed (OSS) Sensor
    • Replaced Turbine Shaft Speed (Sensor Connector)

    7 Other Reported Fixes
    • Programmed TCM
    • Repaired Automatic Transmission
    • Repaired Automatic Transmission Connector
    • Repaired Input Speed Sensor (ISS) Wiring)
    • Repaired Transmission Wiring Harness
    • Replaced TCM
    • Replaced Transmission Speed Sensor

    That output came from the BlueDriver app so I don't know what its credentials are. That said I was hoping someone here has transmission experience and could steer me in the right direction of the problems I should be looking for. Because the issue is relatively infrequent and corrects after a reboot I'm not convinced its a major issue like a TCM replacement; that said, it started doing this a month ago, it could just be the first symptom ahead of a major failure, but I don't know which. But If I ran to a shop with just this information, reading the error code, its an excuse to get shafted on the cost of essentially an entire rebuild of modules and sensors.

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    Now that I know what to hone in on though (electronics) I can datalog those if someone has an idea how I should interpret these outputs. Before I was convinced it was the hot weather that contributed, because its been over 100F out there, but this happened again tonight when it was quite a bit cooler and I was finally able to get the code. Above are the voltage readouts the vehicle supports, a sample log I began after I restarted the engine.

    Thanks


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Foxhole Norman


    Get the fluid level checked, low ish fluid on auto gearboxes can cause a multitude of problems, one of them being holding gears.


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