Tour de France Stage 12: Montpellier-Mt.Ventoux 184KM **Spoilers**

Eamonnator

gordongekko wrote: »

You mean the big yellow car that he was running away from when he was panicking?

Yes, The MAVIC car. And when it was pointed out out to him by the moto mechanic, Froome stopped running, waited for the car and got a bike from the big yellow car.

topcat77

The way people on this thread are going on it's the biggest injustice in sporting history! I've been following the news and the only rider to raise his eyebrows publicly is Mollema. Yates who would have had the honor of wearing Yellow was more than happy with the decision and the Man "Antonio Flecha" praised the ASO for its decision. Case closed for me.

1bryan

topcat77 wrote: »

The way people on this thread are going on it's the biggest injustice in sporting history! I've been following the news and the only rider to raise his eyebrows publicly is Mollema. Yates who would have had the honor of wearing Yellow was more than happy with the decision and the Man "Antonio Flecha" praised the ASO for its decision. Case closed for me.

former Sky rider, Juan Antonio Flecha praises the ASO for not penalising his 2 former teammates.


Riiiiiiiight

topcat77

So where's the all the indignation from the press, teams and riders?

1bryan

Well protests were made by the Trek and (I think) BMC teams. But it was found they had no grounds for protest, according to the 'rules'.

As for the media, I only check the English dominated, English speaking media. I would have been more surprised if any of them decided to come out against Froome.

As for riders. I could only recall a few off the top of my head but my twitter feed was littered with these yesterday.

https://twitter.com/BaukeMollema/status/753639575734616064
https://twitter.com/tom_dumoulin/status/753664299449643008
https://twitter.com/MRasmussen1974/status/753921705635094528
https://twitter.com/iamtedking/status/753648154533203968

gordongekko

1bryan wrote: »

Well protests were made by the Trek and (I think) BMC teams. But it was found they had no grounds for protest, according to the 'rules'.

As for the media, I only check the English dominated, English speaking media. I would have been more surprised if any of them decided to come out against Froome.

As for riders. I could only recall a few off the top of my head but my twitter feed was littered with these yesterday.

https://twitter.com/BaukeMollema/status/753639575734616064
https://twitter.com/tom_dumoulin/status/753664299449643008
https://twitter.com/MRasmussen1974/status/753921705635094528
https://twitter.com/iamtedking/status/753648154533203968

https://twitter.com/veloropa/status/753931103690428416

Eamonnator

Michael Rasmussen talking about equal rules is a bit rich!

1bryan

Eamonnator wrote: »

Michael Rasmussen talking about equal rules is a bit rich!

His past is as dirty as can be but I have huge respect for his commentary on the current state of cycling.

And lets be honest, he has insight that few others have, so he would know.

gordongekko

https://twitter.com/Jonet_H/status/753915023156711425

Sky rider getting a sneaky feed inside the last few kms.

ThisRegard

Not for the first time, wasn't Froome given a feed by Porte I think who collected it from the car 3 or 4 years ago and was subsequently penalised for it.

Lusk_Doyle

ThisRegard wrote: »

Not for the first time, wasn't Froome given a feed by Porte I think who collected it from the car 3 or 4 years ago and was subsequently penalised for it.

Yea they both got penalised that day.

fat bloke

godtabh wrote: »

This is clearly divisive. Time to concentrate on todays stage

No it isn't!

cunavalos

Think it was landa and he received a 50CHF fine immediately after the stage when the results were amended following the meeting of the race jury

NiallBoo

cunavalos wrote: »

Think it was landa and he received a 50CHF fine immediately after the stage

daft, unless it's a time penalty the won't care in the slightest.

Eamonnator

fat bloke wrote: »

No it isn't!

Yes it is!

pelevin

dastardly00 wrote: »

Regarding Landa, my understanding of the events is that Landa was in the yellow jersey group before the crash.
When Gerrans hits the deck, so does Rowe and Stanndard. I don't think Landa falls.
Shortly after, Froome stops for a pee. Kiriyenka helps pace Froome back into the Quintana et al. group. There are other Sky riders with Kiriyenka and Froome, but I'm not sure where Landa is at this particular moment in time.
When they start climbing the Ventoux, Landa is leading the group. Landa gets dropped when Quintana attacks; Poels and Henao are the only Sky domestiques left.

Thanks. Did a bit of searching but can't find any reliable info but looked at Eurosport's video of the stage & after the slow-down where what they were calling the Barguil group gets back in a couple of Sky riders are there, one of whom does look like Landa but I can't be sure. Comment 66' on this thread here was "Nieve and Landa allowed back, arguably the two best climbing doms to have."

Regardless though of who got back in it was all wrong imo. Barguil and others are over a minute behind at that point, then they all re-join up because Sky domestiques are in a crash?! Contador won the Giro last year prettyt much without any team support at all in the mountains. Froome otoh enforces a slowdown because, bad luck or/and the way the racing is going, things aren't going according to the Sky plan for the stage. Just all wrong.

G1032

pelevin wrote: »

Thanks. Did a bit of searching but can't find any reliable info but looked at Eurosport's video of the stage & after the slow-down where what they were calling the Barguil group gets back in a couple of Sky riders are there, one of whom does look like Landa but I can't be sure. Comment 66' on this thread here was "Nieve and Landa allowed back, arguably the two best climbing doms to have."

Regardless though of who got back in it was all wrong imo. Barguil and others are over a minute behind at that point, then they all re-join up because Sky domestiques are in a crash?! Contador won the Giro last year prettyt much without any team support at all in the mountains. Froome otoh enforces a slowdown because, bad luck or/and the way the racing is going, things aren't going according to the Sky plan for the stage. Just all wrong.

Would Movistars team car have been aware of the crash and aware of the 'pee' stop. Assuming they'd have been aware of both why would they not have radioed instructions for Movistar to attack?

pelevin

G1032 wrote: »

Would Movistars team car have been aware of the crash and aware of the 'pee' stop. Assuming they'd have been aware of both why would they not have radioed instructions for Movistar to attack?

Attacking would be surprising & perhaps wrong though it is what Astana did when Contador had trouble in the Giro last year. Froome though is the one who volunteered himself to drop out of the lead peloton at a point of aggression in the race where riders if racing simply do not stop for pee breaks, so I don't actually see that there would be much ethically wrong with attacking the leader of the race if you think about it since he had voluntarily placed himself in that position of weakness which rivals if so minded can now punish. It would be a lesson well learnt & deserved. As a precedent of what power the leader or main players of a race are allowed, it sets up all kinds of passive-aggressive sly methods to the detriment of racing.

However I was thinking more the issue here is more that the racing was on, there were important race splits, etc . . . & then the racing stopped! - to the obvious gain & detriment of many riders involved.

Pantanifan84

Just wondering to myself if TDF will feature ventoux next year due to it being tommy simpsons 50th aniversery

Eamonnator

gordongekko wrote: »

He had radioed the team car. Either run towards it or get the mechanic to run with the bike towards him. When you panic you run away and ask a lad carrying tyres for a bike.

Rob Cummins puts it much better, than I ever could

http://www.stickybottle.com/blogs/opinion-what-froome-running-said-about-him-and-the-tour/