Tour de France Stage 12: Montpellier-Mt.Ventoux 184KM **Spoilers**

Planet X

Cleats.

neris

https://twitter.com/irishpeloton/status/753611837028044800

Moflojo

isitraining wrote: »

Just looking at it again there I think it was possibly the gearing.

He wasn't clipped in properly. He couldn't pull up on the pedals, that's why he looks like he's going backwards. Just before he dumped the neutral bike his left foot slipped off the pedal completely.

tommy_tucker

kenmc wrote: »

not at all. it's a bike race, where do you draw the line at how many other means of transport you can take? could you not decide to paraglide off a descent to save time? how about maybe you could canoe down a fast moving river? you should be in possession of a bike at all times in a bike race, else its not a bike race, regardless of the circumstances.

Most stupid comment of the day goes to...

velo.2010

godtabh wrote: »

there is no 'etiquette' rules

Your right. I mean in the sense of the 'spirit of racing'. If his rivals are OK with any neutralisation that keeps Froome in yellow then there must be a discussion on what happened earlier. Valverde was clearly not impressed.

Burial.

tommy_tucker wrote: »

Most stupid comment of the day goes to...

He's right though...

godtabh

velo.2010 wrote: »

Your right. I mean in the sense of the 'spirit of racing'. If his rivals are OK with any neutralisation that keeps Froome in yellow then there must be a discussion on what happened earlier. Valverde was clearly not impressed.

It was a stroke what froome did to stop but dont confuse that with what happened as a result of a moto stopping because of crowds.

Sarz91

According to SBS Froome's bike was also stolen after he left it.

REBELSAFC

https://twitter.com/Manuel_Javela/status/753610686341738497

godtabh

This is the best one I've seen so far

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/753612158215266304

velo.2010

Looking at the full replay, it appears that the Quintana group were only 20 seconds or so behind when they happened upon the crash.

Still think they neutralise the whole climb.

Thud

Henao cycled past Froome (looked back) when he was struggling on that neutral bike, surely he should have given him his bike

check_six

Back in my day, it'd be off to the blacksmith to sort out your own bike! These fellows need to toughen up!

RobertKK

neris wrote: »

was the 2011 incident not the 1 where him and another rider were sent into a barbed wire fence and badly injured

Yeah that was not neutalised, and the car driver should have seen that tree/pole that he tried to avoid far sooner and instead caused that horrible crash.
Anyone arguing over the motorcycle and neutalising the race would be wrong as the precedence is not to neutalise, and secretly I think the TDF will be happy to have the GC the way it is now which makes the Tour look more competitive given precedence to not neutalise at site of accident.

kenmc

Sarz91 wrote: »

According to SBS Froome's bike was also stolen after he left it.

ha, if only he'd not just dumped it!

07Lapierre

Burial. wrote: »

He's right though...

+1 If Froome had crossed the finish line on foot and without a bike, he would/should have been penalised/disqualified. The rider must have a bike...they can push the bike across the line. But he didn't cross the line so i thin Disqualification would be extreme. A penalty of some kind? well has he not already been penalised? (hes no longer in yellow)

mhiggy09

Just scene a replay of froome getting the neutral service bike. While he was stopped it showed the police or whatever they are that are suposed to control crowds. They were doing fk all. They were just standing there for the most part maybe looking like they were pussing crowds back but not. Then all the photographers run and stand in the middle of the road. Only one police fella actually was forcefully clearing crowds and photographers. It really is just a joke. And I think that word describes the stage today... A joke

paddy no 11

Ridiculous that froome got to stop the race for a slash and to collect his pals. Karma, let the results stand

Taxuser1

that stage was priceless

Burial.

An angry Froome makes for hilarious racing anyway. Let the results stand. It'd be super harsh on TGBM anyway. It appeared Porte was on the attack and about to make a gap too. That boy's luck has always been awful.

tommy_tucker

Burial. wrote: »

He's right though...

Try running in a bike race and you'll come last, try whiping out a canoe or a hang glider and you'll be thrown out for not following the route. let alone all the time you'll lose trying get a hang glider set up ffs

CramCycle

Froome was being waved on by the neutral service and the Comms were passing by, I imagine he was told to keep moving so as not to compile any issues.

Regardless, I think times should stand, hard luck and all but it would not be the first time someone has been screwed over in the TdF. He crossed the line on a bike so no DQ and the punishment has already been doled out time wise.

Brian?

As ridiculous as it is, the times need to stand. If it had been anyone else but the yellow jersey they would stand.

The ASO need to get their act together and work with the police. Look at what the Garda Civilia do in the Vuelta. They actively push the crowd back.

Burial.

Froome just tweeted that he's still in yellow

Sarz91

https://twitter.com/chrisfroome/status/753617220664786944

Pudsy33

It'll be interesting to see what rule the invent to keep Froome in yellow

ThisRegard

Maybe because he just hasn't changed yet.

Nonsense if he's still there in the overall standings though.

isitraining

https://twitter.com/nedboulting/status/753618589031227392

RobertKK

This will not be popular.

Wrong decision.

tommy_tucker

07Lapierre wrote: »

+1 If Froome had crossed the finish line on foot and without a bike, he would/should have been penalised/disqualified. The rider must have a bike...they can push the bike across the line. But he didn't cross the line so i thin Disqualification would be extreme. A penalty of some kind? well has he not already been penalised? (hes no longer in yellow)

he was penalized for running he lost a heap of time FFS!!!! Running is slower that cycling no one is going to do it out of choice, can you not understand that? How can you be so dense

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Thud wrote: »

Henao cycled past Froome (looked back) when he was struggling on that neutral bike, surely he should have given him his bike

Thought that too, the bike was way too small for him and he could see Froome was having serious trouble clipping in, would have thought the teamly thing to do would have been to donate his bike to him?


That's unbelievably sh1t if someone stole his bike.

Burial. wrote: »

Froome just tweeted that he's still in yellow

Interesting. Wonder what rules allow that?

Andy Magic

joey100 wrote: »

Why would he have so much trouble on the neutral service bike? He really seemed all over the place on it, could barely get it moving. I'd have thought it would have been kept in good working order. I get that it wouldn't be set up ideally for him,but it was like night and day between the neutral service and his own bike.

I thought the same but his shoes seem to be slipping in the pedals. He uses dura ace pedals so i presume the bike had something else.

https://youtu.be/ZVveYMkc420?t=1m57s

RobertKK

tommy_tucker wrote: »

he was penalized for running he lost a heap of time FFS!!!! Running is slower that cycling no one is going to do it out of choice can you not understand that. How can you be so dense

He just grew his advantage...

Burial.

Froome
Yates 47"
Mollema 56"
Quintana 1' 01''
Bardet 1'15

They are taking the times from 1km away apparently. Sad day for cycling, to see spectators and bikes create so much havoc as well as favouritism being given to some teams. Gutted for the likes of Mollema. Contador and the group he was in in '11 didn't get the same treatment when they were taken out

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tommy_tucker wrote: »

he was penalized for running he lost a heap of time FFS!!!! Running is slower that cycling no one is going to do it out of choice, can you not understand that? How can you be so dense

Mod Note: Attack the post not the poster

neris

Weepsie wrote: »

Yeah. Hoogerland or something they were in the hunt for the stage win and were clipped by a car. Nothing was neutralised for their benefit he said, unless I misheard.

Just looked it up too. The other guy had to wait years before getting the insurance claim paid out

i think felcha is still waiting for his pay out, he was talking about that incident last year and was still fuming over it and the other lad getting paid out

RobertKK

Froome is going to be less popular after this, he will be seen to have benefited by not allowing the final result to stand.

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Well that's shyte

Anyone

Farcical sport just became more farcical after that stage antics and then the decision to keep Froome in yellow.

Brian?

isitraining wrote: »

https://twitter.com/nedboulting/status/753618589031227392

How in the name of Jaysus did they come up with that?????

ThisRegard

So they arbitrarily picked some random spot further down the road from where the incident happened and said this is now the finish?

Pudsy33

The incident was joke shop. The decision a bottle job. Everything about this sucks .

afatbollix

Froome back in the lead.

Updated leader board.

Mint Sauce

Just watched the last few km on +1. WTF!

Will read the last few pages to get some sort of sence of whats happening. Although just did see Richie Port crash into the back of a camera bike.

Brian?

If that's verified it's an absolute joke. Completely wrong. Neutralise the whole climb or nothing to give Froome a time gap is a joke.

Burial.

If Froome gets away without any penalty for running then the Tour is hitting a new low tbh

JK.BMC

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

Can't quite understand why Froome wasn't able to ride the neutral service bike. Would be interesting to see in more detail.

I mean, if Jens can do it, surely the greatest cyclist in the world can do it.

Pedal/Cleat problem maybe????

68 lost souls

joey100 wrote: »

Why would he have so much trouble on the neutral service bike? He really seemed all over the place on it, could barely get it moving. I'd have thought it would have been kept in good working order. I get that it wouldn't be set up ideally for him,but it was like night and day between the neutral service and his own bike.

GCN just said that at the Giro the lead Mavic neutral car had a bike setup with the exact Red Jersey setup. But also Froome uses speedplay and the other bikes could be setup with Look or Shimano?

RobertKK

When asked 'why do you watch cycling?'

I will say for the scenery...

Today when you think things couldn't become worse or more farcical they manage to make it that.

Brian?

68 lost souls wrote: »

GCN just said that at the Giro the lead Mavic neutral car had a bike setup with the exact Red Jersey setup. But also Froome uses speedplay and the other bikes could be setup with Look or Shimano?

The neutral bikes used to be set up with cages on flats, not clipless pedals. Not sure if that's changed.

Petacchi won a Giro stage on one. Google it.