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Does an RSJ need a separate certificate?

  • 14-07-2016 10:15am
    #1
    kinnikinnik5
    Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭


    We've had an extension built and were expecting a certificate for the universal beam from the architect. But he says that's a structural engineer job and he'll only be providing the letter of compliance with building regs. Neither the builder nor him mentioned needing a SE during the build.
    Will this be an issue when selling the house?


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  • #2
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 41,863 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    who specified the beam?

    the architect is absolutely correct not to certify something they didnt design, if thats the case.


  • #3
    Metric Tensor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭Metric Tensor


    It is worth pointing out however that by "Building Regs" the architect probably means the Technical Guidance Documents. This beam falls under the broad remit of Technical Guidance Document A.

    The key point here is who sized the bea:

    Did the Architect give the builder a size? - I'd say that's highly unlikely.
    Did the Builder pick a beam and put it in? - I'd say this is more likely but what are the builders qualifications that allow him to design the steel beam?

    Either way - a structural engineer is the only one who can sign to say the beam is of adequate size for the location it's installed. Whether or not the sizing of this beam and resultant engineer's fee was included in the cost you got from the architect or builder is unclear and it's something that both of these people should have warned you about at the start.

    As a (very relevant) aside - who designed the foundation?


  • #4
    kinnikinnik5
    Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭kinnikinnik5


    the builder got the architects opinion on the beam and foundations required


  • #5
    BryanF
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,143 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    kinnikinnik5 wrote: »
    the builder got the architects opinion on the beam and foundations required

    According to the builder?

    Show us the drawings? What is written down?


  • #6
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,802 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    kinnikinnik5 wrote: »
    the builder got the architects opinion on the beam and foundations required

    Does the architect moonlight as an engineer? Does his PI cover him for the design of structures?


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  • #7
    Calahonda52
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,595 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    kinnikinnik5 wrote: »
    Will this be an issue when selling the house?

    Yes it will.
    What stage is it at now, all covered up?

    I would start with the fact that the architect/builder have now left you with an unsalable house

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



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