Nice - Bastille day **mod warning post 1**

Atlantic Dawn

Anything directly pointing towards ISIS or could it be some looper(s) with one too many games of GTA under their belt? (serious question)

Sand

speedboatchase wrote: »

That's simply not the case. I'll give three examples - Kenyan mall massacre, recent Bangladesh restaurant massacre, and Nairobi hotel attack - where the jihadists literally separated the Muslims and non-Muslims and asked them to recite the Qu'ran or answer Islamic trivia. Those who failed in all three of those events were tortured and killed.

ISIS have killed more Muslims than non-Muslims, and I doubt that when their gunmen were spraying bullets into the crowd at Bacalan they were such good shots that they would only hit non-Muslims and bad Muslims.

Christ - the Muslim policeman who was executed (there is no other word) whilst he laid bleeding on the street by the terrorists in the 'Je Suis Charlie' attacks wasn't asked for his Koranic qualifications.

At some point you have to recognise - these guys simply do not care about the things you care about. They are not you. They do not care about you. You cannot reason with them. You cannot bargain with them. You kill them or they kill you. That is the limit and extent of your interaction with them.

testicles

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Letree

Is it becoming clear yet that increasing the number of muslims in europe is not going to be good for european society. Its been clear to me and many others for a long time.

Atlantic Dawn

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Anything directly pointing towards ISIS or could it be some looper(s) with one too many games of GTA under their belt? (serious question)

Someone posted earlier that "ISIS" claimed responsibility, nothing official as far as I know.

Amirani

Fire right beside the Eiffel Tower atm after truck with fireworks ignited. Not terror related according to police.

https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/108410/391791.jpg

mvron

My sister left Nice this morning - I can't imagine what it is like for people living and visiting there tonight. I can't see ANY justification for the slaughter of people in this way. There is no justification for this.

blackwave

Sky now saying that 60 dead with the driver dead and a possible accomplice on the run.

murpho999

testicles wrote: »

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Means nothing.

ISIS are not an international organisation with a complex chain of command.

Any headcase in any country can claim loyalty and attack and then ISIS claim it as their own initiative as happened in Florida recently.

RobertKK

Local hospitals overwhelmed and makeshift hospitals set up according to an eye witness.

Witchie

Can't believe this is happening so feckin often. Really fed up with this crazy world.

Just checked in with my aunt and uncle who live in Aix-en-Provence and often go to Nice for trips. Luckily they are safe and out were out with friends in Aix and didn't know anything about it until I text and emailed them to check up on them.

Heartbreaking news once again. Not sure I can handle much more of this crap.

Atlantic Dawn

testicles wrote: »

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Deleted User wrote: »

Someone posted earlier that "ISIS" claimed responsibility, nothing official as far as I know.

It's frightening the level of basic resources such an attack takes, very little police can do about it.

murpho999

Deleted User wrote: »

Someone posted earlier that "ISIS" claimed responsibility, nothing official as far as I know.

ISIS are not official either so what are you looking for?

Berserker

60 dead and 100 injured at the moment. Off to bed now, thoughts are with the people of Nice tonight.

failinis

Seems to be some commotion by Eiffel Tower - some on twitter saying its a truck carrying fireworks on fire.

El Chapo

Christ, what in the name of fuck are idiots doing on Twitter? Posting pictures of dead and maimed people whose families most likely have no clue they are involved.

Zero cop on whatsoever.

Social media really lets itself down at times like this. :mad:

RobertKK

mvron wrote: »

My sister left Nice this morning - I can't imagine what it is like for people living and visiting there tonight. I can't see ANY justification for the slaughter of people in this way. There is no justification for this.

Such a relief for you that it was this morning she left, my own sister and her family went to Nice a few years ago, glad they are sticking to Spain these days.

speedboatchase

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

It's frightening the level of basic resources such an attack takes, very little police can do about it.

If you're willing to die, you can take a lot of people with you.

The_Kew_Tour

They're no words.

Rip to all dead

I mean to get a gun is bad, but to actually knock so many people down you must be some ****ed up brut

blackwave

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

It's frightening the level of basic resources such an attack takes, very little police can do about it.

Yeah it is, all it takes is someone that is determined to cause harm and that they have no care for their own life.

BorneTobyWilde

Why are they allowed to fester within France. ? They have their own little communities, 100's of them around France. Can't touch them until they kill.
World is too PC.

Atlantic Dawn

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

It's frightening the level of basic resources such an attack takes, very little police can do about it.

This is where "real terrorism" goes into a new level, these types of attacks are impossible to discover or prevent.

Renegade Mechanic

Berserker wrote: »

mod: I've had to remove a video showing terrible things. Please don't post anything like that. Consider the fact that people are not prepared to deal with videos of the results of an attack.

I know. And it saddens me somewhat, because these people are only going to end up seeing sh*t like this in a way they can't physically ignore. No matter what they try...
You can only shield yourself/others for so long.
Ignoring it doesn't stop it from happening.
Ignoring it won't stop it from reaching your senses.

Welcome to interesting times, folks. They're happening wether you are willing to accept it, or not

murpho999

El Chapo wrote: »

Christ, what in the name of fuck are idiots doing on Twitter? Posting pictures of dead and maimed people whose families most likely have no clue they are involved.

Zero cop on whatsoever.

Social media really lets itself down at times like this. :mad:

It's always going to happen in the modern age.

Part of me think it's right to document this and for people to see the real impact and effect of terrorism no matter how unpleasant it is.

Lady is a tramp

Amirani wrote: »

Fire right beside the Eiffel Tower atm after truck with fireworks ignited. Not terror related according to police.

https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/108410/391791.jpg

Wow that's a horrible image. Hope there were no injuries, and that the tower isn't damaged as a result.

murpho999

murpho999 wrote: »

ISIS are not official either so what are you looking for?

A statement from a source linked to ISIS would suffice.

LordSutch

Discussing on Sky news whether this might be a 'Criminal' attack as opposed to a Terrorist attack (whatever the difference might be)? They are also careful not to discount an accident, (lorry out of control) similar to the Glasgow Bin lorry incident a few years ago.

60 people now confirmed dead, with over 100 injured.

Berserker

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Why are they allowed to fester within France. ? They have their own little communities, 100's of them around France. Can't touch them until they kill.
World is too PC.

I have strong views on this but this isn't the time or place for it. 60 or more people lost their lives tonight and the lives of their friends and families are changed forever as a result. Our thoughts should be with those people tonight. We can discuss what should be done on another day, on another thread.

BorneTobyWilde

Boris straight into action. What a buffoon .
What a start for him .

El Chapo

Imagine living in the UK and having Boris Johnson dealing with this kind of incident.

Scary.

failinis

Lady is a tramp wrote: »

Wow that's a horrible image. Hope there were no injuries, and that the tower isn't damaged as a result.

https://twitter.com/prefpolice/status/753719036245073920

Do not spread false rumors . No fire at #TourEiffel . Accidental fire truck took place in Jena bridge. It's off.

RobertKK

The truck had guns and grenades in it.

El Chapo

murpho999 wrote: »

It's always going to happen in the modern age.

Part of me think it's right to document this and for people to see the real impact and effect of terrorism no matter how unpleasant it is.

It's not right.

Imagine a relative sitting at home and seeing a picture of their loved one's dead blooded body lying on the road.

Wrong on so many levels.

keith16

Berserker wrote: »

We can discuss what should be done on another day, on another thread.

Discuss....should be...sick of this bs to be honest.

Berserker

Berserker wrote: »

Anyone else watching the news from Nice? Some lunatic drove a truck into a crowd of people celebrating Bastille day. Several people are dead, according to various media sources.

mod: I've had to remove a video showing terrible things. Please don't post anything like that. Consider the fact that people are not prepared to deal with videos of the results of an attack.

Just want to clarify that I did not post any video content on this thread.

BorneTobyWilde

Lots of kids there tonight. Its one thing killing people at concerts who are typically adults, but there were so many kids there tonight.

El Chapo

Deleted User wrote: »

A statement from a source linked to ISIS would suffice.

Jenan Moussa ‏@jenanmoussa 32 minutes ago
When ISIS carries out attack, 1st official claim responsibility usually comes from 'Amaq news agency'. Amaq is silent for last 30mins. #Nice

failinis

Berserker wrote: »

Just want to clarify that I did not post any video content on this thread.

It was posted on your post because its the OP post, so first thing new readers see, don't take it personally
:rolleyes:

BlaasForRafa

Deleted User wrote: »

This is where "real terrorism" goes into a new level, these types of attacks are impossible to discover or prevent.

Indeed, just get hold of a truck and drive fast into a crowd. There are trucks on every street practically every moment of the day, it's impossible to be vigilant on the chance that one could be driven by an islamist terrorist.

LordSutch

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Boris straight into action. What a buffoon .
What a start for him .

What's he done?

Kermit.de.frog

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Lots of kids there tonight. Its one thing killing people at concerts who are typically adults, but there were so many kids there tonight.

I don't differentiate to be honest. A human being is human being no matter what age they are.

Horrible attack.

Waitsian

Berserker wrote:

Just want to clarify that I did not post any video content on this thread. Unsure why this comment has been added to my post.

Because it's the first post presumably.

nullzero

speedboatchase wrote: »

It's not necessarily the area or demographics. It's the economic circumstances, local imams etc. Last year Austria blocked foreign funding of religious buildings, mostly due to the Wahabbist ideology that was being spread by Saudi-funded imams in Saudi-funded mosques. There was an article in New York Times last month about how radicalised Kosovo has become due to the investments Saudi has made in the country.

In yet Saudi Arabia tries to keep up a front of being a pro western state. Wahabism is Saudi Arabias gift to the world yet they pretend to know nothing about it whilst allowing it to flourish.

BorneTobyWilde

Police have answers to give. Why can a truck even access the area and get to the crowd.

RobertKK

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Lots of kids there tonight. Its one thing killing people at concerts who are typically adults, but there were so many kids there tonight.

It is the same thing, all lives taken for no reason, hopes and dreams wiped out for no good reason.

Amirani

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Police have answers to give. Why can a truck even access the area and get to the crowd.

Hard to stop it?

Jayop

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Police have answers to give. Why can a truck even access the area and get to the crowd.

How exactly do you propose they stop a lorry at high speed?

BorneTobyWilde

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Police have answers to give. Why can a truck even access the area and get to the crowd.

The crowd were next to a public road, trucks drive on roads what could they ( the police) have done?

failinis

LordSutch wrote: »

What's he done?

As far as I know, Boris is in France today (he was booed at his first appearance in his new role) and I presume he is still in France overnight - but unsure why people are bashing him before he has even opened his mouth.

BorneTobyWilde

LordSutch wrote: »

What's he done?

As foreign secretary he will have to be involved in Britain's response. Not a great first day on the job .