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Tour de France 2016, July 16, Stage 14: Montélimar/Villars-les-Dombes *SPOILERS*

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  • 16-07-2016 8:47am
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    Date: Saturday 16th July
    Type: Hilly
    Distance: 208.5Km
    Start/Finish: Montélimar / Villars-les-Dombes Parc des Oiseaux


    Stage Map:
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    Stage Profile:
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    Finale:
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    The General Classification after Stage 13:
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    Sam still holds the Lanterne Rouge.


    Preview (© http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/):
    After leaving Montélimar the riders head north, straight up the Rhône Valley to Lyon. The route dances around the edge of Lyon, before spearing off in a north-easterly direction to the finish.

    More than likely there will be a headwind all the way today, because south is the prevailing wind direction in this part of the Rhône Valley. If the Mistral blows it will be a terrible slog. That makes it almost worth betting on this stage having a bunch finish.

    It will be so hard to stay clear in a headwind. Headwinds also boost the effect of being in the peloton, where for highly conditioned Tour de France riders there will be moments when they can cruise a bit to save their legs.

    Chris Froome (Sky) will be one of those happy if the day turns out to be steady-paced. He placed second in the previous day’s time trial behind Tom Dumoulin (Giant-Alpecin) to extend his overall lead. Bauke Mollema (Trek-Segafredo) moves up to second, and Adam Yates (Orica-BikeExchange) slips to third overall.

    The sprinters will be hoping for a more straightforward stage too, having enduring the mountains and a long time trial.


    LIVE TV:
    TG4 - 1.10pm
    Eurosport 1 - 1.00pm
    ITV4 - 2.00pm

    HIGHLIGHTS:
    TG4 - 8.50pm
    Eurosport 2 - 6.15pm
    Eurosport 1 - 9.00pm
    ITV4 - 7.00pm

    LE TOUR BY LEMONDE:
    Eurosport 1 - 12.00pm


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,458 ✭✭✭lennymc


    looks like a nice sportive... :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 684 ✭✭✭brianomc


    Doesn't sound like i'm missing much today. Has anything of note happened?


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭StevieGriff


    brianomc wrote: »
    Doesn't sound like i'm missing much today. Has anything of note happened?
    Nope. Other than it seeming like David Millar has been reading the press book inside out, his castle knowledge is on point today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭velo.2010


    Just did a double take on the graphic on George Bennett that popped up on screen. He is 1.80m or 5'11 and weighs an incredibly light 58kg. That's a mere 9st 2lbs. That can't be healthy in the long run, regardless of the diet and healthcare he receives.

    By comparison, Purito weighs the same and is 5'7 and he's considered a lightweight climber.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,761 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Looks like a day for leadout trains with a 3km straight section into the finish. I am going to go for, the loss of Renshaw is a huge loss for Cav, hard to see how he can get the better of both the Lotto and Etixx trains:

    #1 Kittel
    #2 Cav
    #3 Greipel

    Honorable mention to Dan MacLay, who's form has been great to date with no leadout train to work off, and hopefully Sammy Bennett if he's recovered from his injuries.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,761 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Wow, Cav just seems to be much faster than Kittel at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭JK.BMC


    Great to see Sam Bennett up there today! I'm pretty sure that Archbold got him up to Kristoffs wheel with 800m to go; he just didn't have the final punch but he definitely was there if my eyesight is correct. Maybe 12th at the line? Understandable if he is still a bit cautious at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭wanderer 22


    'What a day' said twice in 30 seconds...apart from the sprint it was boring as f*&k!


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭StevieGriff


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Wow, Cav just seems to be much faster than Kittel at the moment.
    Think it's more like a perfect blend of experience and form. His timing has been faultless this tour, not winning by the margins he used to but he's definitely adapted himself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭F.Grimes


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Wow, Cav just seems to be much faster than Kittel at the moment.

    uCI regulation

    Sprints
    2.3.036 Riders shall be strictly forbidden to deviate from the lane they selected when launching
    into the sprint and, in so doing, endangering others


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,761 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Think it's more like a perfect blend of experience and form. His timing has been faultless this tour, not winning by the margins he used to but he's definitely adapted himself.

    His timing is as good as it gets, but last year he just couldn't get past Kittel in those situations, Kittel was going away from everyone with ease and winning by bike lengths.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,761 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    F.Grimes wrote: »
    uCI regulation

    Sprints
    2.3.036 Riders shall be strictly forbidden to deviate from the lane they selected when launching
    into the sprint and, in so doing, endangering others

    Kittel moved to Cav's wheel initially, Cav went past him with a lot of space, and then moved right a small amount coming into the finish, would be amazed if this is reversed, nothing wrong imo.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,477 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    F.Grimes wrote: »
    uCI regulation

    Sprints
    2.3.036 Riders shall be strictly forbidden to deviate from the lane they selected when launching
    into the sprint and, in so doing, endangering others
    If you are suggesting Cav deviated to the right, he did so when past, and as Kittel was deviating to the left.


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭F.Grimes


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Kittel moved to Cav's wheel initially, Cav went past him with a lot of space, and then moved right a small amount coming into the finish, would be amazed if this is reversed, nothing wrong imo.

    Kittel, definitely didn't move to Cavs wheel! He kept his line, and cav blatantly encroached on kittels line! And there was certainly not a lot of space there


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭F.Grimes


    Beasty wrote: »
    If you are suggesting Cav deviated to the right, he did so when past, and as Kittel was deviating to the left.

    Lads were we watching the same race! It's clear, cav was encroaching on kittel well before he passed, pushing kittel off his line! He then moved to the right, effectively blocking kittel!


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,761 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    F.Grimes wrote: »
    Kittel, definitely didn't move to Cavs wheel! He kept his line, and cav blatantly encroached on kittels line! And there was certainly not a lot of space there

    https://twitter.com/inrng/status/754343706250121216


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭F.Grimes


    Inquitus wrote: »

    Oh I know Cav got the win, but certainly wasn't a clean win, nearly taken out a competitor in the process! I wouldn't be throwing my hands up as I crossed the line


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,761 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    F.Grimes wrote: »
    Oh I know Cav got the win, but certainly wasn't a clean win, nearly taken out a competitor in the process! I wouldn't be throwing my hands up as I crossed the line

    It was a clean win, not sure what you were watching, Kittel moved left towards Cav before Cav made a slight move to the right when he was already ahead of him, nothing wrong at all in this finish imho, and well deserved, he was clearly the fastest man.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,477 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Kittel was beaten. He knew he was beaten. He moved from about 1 metre from the barriers to 2-3 meters from the barriers. He has absolutely nothing to complain about.


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭StevieGriff


    Inquitus wrote: »
    His timing is as good as it gets, but last year he just couldn't get past Kittel in those situations, Kittel was going away from everyone with ease and winning by bike lengths.
    Absolutely. Imagine how foolish Etixx feel after years of not wanting Cav to ride track, the track training and racing has him in flying form.

    Kittel was going backwards when Cav "encroached", he also started moving left as Cav was going right as if to play up the encroachment.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭F.Grimes


    Inquitus wrote: »
    It was a clean win, not sure what you were watching, Kittel moved left towards Cav before Cav made a slight move to the right when he was already ahead of him, nothing wrong at all in this finish imho, and well deserved, he was clearly the fastest man.

    https://twitter.com/letour/status/754341801159434240

    Kittel, did move left after rounding the turn, but look at cav move right even before he passed kittel. And I wouldn't deny that cav would probably have won anyway, but it's not good sportsmanship, to block a competitors line


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,761 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    F.Grimes wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/letour/status/754341801159434240

    Kittel, did move left after rounding the turn, but look at cav move right even before he passed kittel. And I wouldn't deny that cav would probably have won anyway, but it's not good sportsmanship, to block a competitors line

    Cav has done his fair share of unfair sprinting in the past, I won't deny that, but in this case I think it was six of one and half a dozen of the other, and clearly nothing wrong.


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭F.Grimes


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Cav has done his fair share of unfair sprinting in the past, I won't deny that, but in this case I think it was six of one and half a dozen of the other, and clearly nothing wrong.

    Yeah I mine, obviously the judges agree with you! Personally never really liked Cav so I'm probably just jumping at the chance to take something away from him! 😀


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭Boscoirl


    JK.BMC wrote: »
    Great to see Sam Bennett up there today! I'm pretty sure that Archbold got him up to Kristoffs wheel with 800m to go; he just didn't have the final punch but he definitely was there if my eyesight is correct. Maybe 12th at the line? Understandable if he is still a bit cautious at the moment.

    Good shout for 12th


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,889 ✭✭✭griffin100


    JK.BMC wrote: »
    Great to see Sam Bennett up there today! I'm pretty sure that Archbold got him up to Kristoffs wheel with 800m to go; he just didn't have the final punch but he definitely was there if my eyesight is correct. Maybe 12th at the line? Understandable if he is still a bit cautious at the moment.

    Good article on Sam in today's Irish Tines. He did more damage than thought in that first day crash.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/sam-bennett-back-in-tour-de-france-school-of-hard-knocks-1.2723845


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭funnights74


    I wouldn't mind seeing cavs power output for that sprint today.He left every decent sprinter in the world for dead. Well over 1000 watts for sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭JK.BMC


    I wouldn't mind seeing cavs power output for that sprint today.He left every decent sprinter in the world for dead. Well over 1000 watts for sure.

    Headwind all the way- he is also the most aero of the top guys; Coquard sprints like a drunken octopus for example, while Bouhanni doesn't like straight lines at all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭JK.BMC


    F.Grimes wrote: »
    Yeah I mine, obviously the judges agree with you! Personally never really liked Cav so I'm probably just jumping at the chance to take something away from him! 😀

    Perhaps we wouldn't advise Cav's approach to A4 bunch sprints but let's be honest Kittel knew he was beaten and threw the hand in disgust. The winner was clearly going forward and overtaking a tiring opponent- nothing to see here really. Best man won.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I wouldn't mind seeing cavs power output for that sprint today.He left every decent sprinter in the world for dead. Well over 1000 watts for sure.

    At a guess, somewhere around 1700 watts as he came by Kittel.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭StevieGriff


    JK.BMC wrote: »
    Headwind all the way- he is also the most aero of the top guys; Coquard sprints like a drunken octopus for example, while Bouhanni doesn't like straight lines at all

    Caleb Ewan could have something to say about that.:P
    (Ewan has said he's massively influenced by Cav though)
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    Brian? wrote: »
    At a guess, somewhere around 1700 watts as he came by Kittel.

    He's said in the past his peak power is 1580w (one second power)
    I'd imagine when he was on the wheel he was holding 900-1000w and then surges to come around and holds 1400ish for the 7 seconds or so.


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