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Group of men in Dublin cause outrage by wearing blackface

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    #362
    unseenfootage
    Registered Users Posts: 976 ✭✭✭unseenfootage


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    I see when they cant be answered.

    They're easy enough to answer but judging at how silly those questions are, you're either taking the p*ss or you not very smart.
    Why should I bother?


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    #363
    darkpagandeath
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    unseenfootage wrote: »
    They're easy enough to answer but judging at how silly those questions are, you're either taking the p*ss or you not very smart.
    Why should I bother?

    Then go ahead answer.


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    #364
    Samaris
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    timmy_mallet wrote: »
    I'm out... Never play pigeon with a chess.

    Sums it up really.


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    #365
    unseenfootage
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    Our friends in England have had these debates decades ago.
    The mere fact that we're still debating this issue speaks volumes of how backward we are as a society, when it comes to race relations.


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    #366
    Smondie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Smondie


    unseenfootage wrote: »
    You're just trivializing a serious issue for your own cheap thrills.
    No it's the same issue and your inability to answer screams "because I said so" and stamping your feet


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    #367
    unseenfootage
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Then go ahead answer.

    nah...


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    #368
    Sweetemotion
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    unseenfootage wrote: »
    Our friends in England have had these debates decades ago.
    The mere fact that we're still debating this issue speaks volumes of how backward we are as a society, when it comes to race relations.


    Our friends in England?

    Who is this we?


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    #369
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Fake afro not a race you heard of a perm ?

    What exactly is a black accent ? Is accent a race now ?

    Who does these caricatures ?

    The outfits are obviously using the Jamaican flag as a pattern.

    There is a Jamaican accent. Or a Caribbean accent.


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    #370
    unseenfootage
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    Smondie wrote: »
    No it's the same issue and your inability to answer screams "because I said so" and stamping your feet

    Let me get this straight.
    You're referring to white girls who wear fake tans?


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    #371
    darkpagandeath
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    unseenfootage wrote: »
    Our friends in England have had these debates decades ago.
    The mere fact that we're still debating this issue speaks volumes of how backward we are as a society, when it comes to race relations.

    Did they, Why would they be worried about something that started in the USA and was not really an EU issue. Please don't visit Holland on a particular day.


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    #372
    unseenfootage
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    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    Our friends in England?

    Don't be pedantic.

    I could've just as easy wrote. People in England.
    Sweetemotion wrote: »

    Who is this we?

    "We" are those debating this issue in this thread for one and wherever else...


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    #373
    Special Circumstances
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    unseenfootage wrote: »
    Have you ever asked a black person how it feels when a white person dresses slaps on face paint, a fake afro, , puts on a fake black accent and caricatures a black person purely for some cheap laughs.

    Most black people will tell you that it is deeply offensive and that they find it racist.

    A black accent. Very good. Very good. Are you sure that's not a bit racist though?

    Are you by any chance the limerick mayor who wanted street signs in "African" to help new arrivals feel more welcome?


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    #374
    darkpagandeath
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    InTheTrees wrote: »
    The outfits are obviously using the Jamaican flag as a pattern.

    There is a Jamaican accent. Or a Caribbean accent.

    Kind of need to being the Jamaican bobsleighed team.

    Accent is not race so get out with that. I'm Racist then with my bad Irish accent having lived here a long time.

    See you drooped the hair.


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    #375
    Special Circumstances
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    unseenfootage wrote: »
    Let me get this straight.
    You're referring to white girls who wear fake tans?

    I think it was that movie White Chicks.


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    #376
    darkpagandeath
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    Special Circumstances wrote: »
    I think it was that movie White Chicks.

    Fake tan changes ones skin tone at what level should we get triggered from the original skin tone ? :confused:


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    #377
    unseenfootage
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Did they, Why would they be worried about something that started in the USA and was not really an EU issue. Please don't visit Holland on a particular day.

    Because in decades gone by they engaged in this stupid racist behavior in theaters (The minstrels) and on TV in entertainment shows during the seventies and the eighties.
    Subsequently, more progressive attitudes prevailed and racist behavior such as this blackface nonsense was shunned and banned.


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    #378
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Accent is not race so get out with that.

    I never said it was. There's a Jamaican accent though isnt there?


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    #379
    unseenfootage
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    Special Circumstances wrote: »
    Are you by any chance the limerick mayor who wanted street signs in "African" to help new arrivals feel more welcome?

    This is another issue but I personally think this mayor is foolish.


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    #380
    darkpagandeath
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    unseenfootage wrote: »
    Because in decades gone by they engaged in this stupid racist behavior in theaters (The minstrels) and on TV in entertainment shows during the seventies and the eighties.
    Subsequently, more progressive attitudes prevailed and racist behavior such as this blackface nonsense was shunned and banned.

    I agree Black face minstrel are racist.


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    #381
    darkpagandeath
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    InTheTrees wrote: »
    I never said it was. There's a Jamaican accent though isnt there?

    I'm sure there is black and white Jamaicans have it. If I do an American accent I'm clearly Racist yes ? Or a UK one ?


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    #382
    Letree
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    I wouldn't be remotely bothered by people dressing up with black faces, brown faces, white faces etc. Not one steaming turd would i give.


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    #383
    Smondie
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Fake tan changes ones skin tone at what level should we get triggered from the original skin tone ? :confused:
    Maybe is ok for women to misappropiate skin or hair colour?


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    #384
    unseenfootage
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    The original minstrels in 19th century America, (at a time where black people were severely oppressed,) made fun of black people, portraying them in a negative light as dumb, idiotic and lazy, not dissimilar to how Irish were portrayed as dumb and drunk in America and England.


    How is that not racist?


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    #385
    unseenfootage
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Fake tan changes ones skin tone at what level should we get triggered from the original skin tone ? :confused:

    All races change their skin tones for vanity, cosmetic and beauty purposes.

    There is a clear distinction between this and a white person dressing up in a blackface minstrel costume with facepaint and an afro and lampooning black people.

    The former act is not considered to be offensive although some people find it controversial.

    The latter action, originated when America was deeply racist and clearly causes offense to black people and to humanity at large.


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    #386
    InTheTrees
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    I'm sure there is black and white Jamaicans have it.

    :confused:

    Ummm. Not sure where you're going with that.


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    #387
    unseenfootage
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    Letree wrote: »
    I wouldn't be remotely bothered by people dressing up with black faces, brown faces, white faces etc. Not one steaming turd would i give.

    Would you dress up as blackface, knowing that it is racist?


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    #388
    darkpagandeath
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    unseenfootage wrote: »
    Would you dress up as blackface, knowing that it is racist?

    No I would not dress up as a Minstrel.


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    #389
    Smondie
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    unseenfootage wrote: »
    All races change their skin tones for vanity, cosmetic and beauty purposes.

    There is a clear distinction between this and a white person dressing up in a blackface minstrel costume with facepaint and an afro and lampooning black people.

    The former act is not considered to be offensive although some people find it controversial.

    The latter action, originated when America was deeply racist and clearly causes offense to black people and to humanity at large.

    Minstrel costumes and lampooning black people?

    What pictures are you looking at?

    This guy changed thier skin colour for cosmetic purpose, which you say is fine


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    #390
    unseenfootage
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    Smondie wrote: »
    Minstrel costumes and lampooning black people?

    What pictures are you looking at?

    This guy changed thier skin colour for cosmetic purpose, which you say is fine

    Did I say those idiots in Dublin wore costumes.
    Smondie wrote: »
    This guy changed thier skin colour for cosmetic purpose, which you say is fine

    lol.......


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    #391
    Dyr
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    unseenfootage wrote: »
    All races change their skin tones for vanity, cosmetic and beauty purposes.

    There is a clear distinction between this and a white person dressing up in a blackface minstrel costume with facepaint and an afro and lampooning black people.

    Is it okay if you dress up but don't lampoon black people? I want to be phil lynott this halloween and I sorta need the make up or I'll just look like Graeme Souness on a night out

    What I find out fascinating about AH is you see all these presumably irish people mindlessly repeating the dribble that emanates from the right wing libertarian nutters or the SJW puritans over in America.

    This is not America kids. We're not daft.


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