Twitter permanently suspends Milo Yiannopoulos over row with 'Ghostbusters' actress

Wibbs

martingriff wrote: »

the bit of that picture I feel went over his head was that he is making fun of a fat person(never right) while the guy is in the gym trying to lose weight

Exactly. Now I'd not be someone who is going to "fat shame" another person because a) it is of zero personal impact and concern to me and b) I'm not that much of a cunt. To take a pic ridiculing somebody making that kind of effort? Moron. Like that recent pic tweeted by some Playboy "model" of a fat lass at her gym. Yeah like your life of getting your genetically lucky tits and fanny out makes the world a better place. Moron. That Milo posts a pic like that considering his American audience where a goodly proportion of the good oul boys and gals are going to be the size of small moons…

Nermal

Billy86 wrote: »

Evidently, given that you got duped so easily by fake tweets.

How dare Milo retweet the faked racist tweets, instead of retweeting her real racist ones, right?

BorneTobyWilde

Poor Milo would have no chance on boards.

Cienciano

osmiumartist wrote: »

So the sum of the proof provided by the professionally offended army here that this guy was "orchestrating" a hate campaign is "I wanted him banned too".
Thanks for that. Next, sports...

No one here is offended by him as far as I can see. They just think he's a knobend.

TSMGUY

Cienciano wrote: »

No one here is offended by him as far as I can see. They just think he's a knobend.

Hit the nail on the head. He's like some wannabe Christopher Hitchens spouting off what he considers to be witticisms but failing miserably and claiming everyone's just too sensitive to appreciate his genius.

The guy's not racist/sexist etc., he's just a talentless prick.

Letree

Leslie jones is an anti white racist. She has numerous anti white tweets .

TSMGUY

Letree wrote: »

Leslie jones is an anti white racist. She has numerous anti white tweets .

That's not fair either. None of them are racist. Hackneyed, lazy, unoriginal, yes, yes and yes. But if you genuinely think Leslie Jones HATES white people you're delusional. She works on SNL, which is about 99% produced and written by white people and she's often accused of cooning and being a minstrel, so she can't win.

I think everyone needs to be a lot more cautious before they brand someone a racist, it's used far too liberally nowadays.

osmiumartist

TSMGUY wrote: »

Hit the nail on the head. He's like some wannabe Christopher Hitchens spouting off what he considers to be witticisms but failing miserably and claiming everyone's just too sensitive to appreciate his genius.

The guy's not racist/sexist etc., he's just a talentless prick.

So you agree with Twitter banning the untalented? And yes, I know they can ban whoever they like. And no, I couldn't give a monkey's about anybody or anything on Twitter.

Letree

TSMGUY wrote: »

That's not fair either. None of them are racist.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/20/double-standards-leslie-jones-racist-twitter-history/

TSMGUY

osmiumartist wrote: »

So you agree with Twitter banning the untalented? And yes, I know they can ban whoever they like. And no, I couldn't give a monkey's about anybody or anything on Twitter.

LOL no, how did you infer that from what I said. I don't think Milo or Leslie should've been banned. Why are you jumping to conclusions?

PopePalpatine

Letree wrote: »

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/20/double-standards-leslie-jones-racist-twitter-history/

Of course the site which employs Milo (and his c.40-45 interns) would be "fair and balanced". :rolleyes:

TSMGUY

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Of course the site which employs Milo (and his c.40-45 interns) would be "fair and balanced". :rolleyes:

breitbart is the male version of Jezebel, not very credible tbh.

SAMPLE BREITBART TITLE:

BREAKING: ALL WOMEN HAVE COOTIES:)

osmiumartist

TSMGUY wrote: »

breitbart is the male version of Jezebel, not very credible tbh.

SAMPLE BREITBART TITLE:

BREAKING: ALL WOMEN HAVE COOTIES:)

Are the Tweets there fake?
If not it doesn't matter a shoite what site they're listed on. They're racist. Unlike anything produced so far from Milo.

DEFTLEFTHAND

TSMGUY wrote: »

breitbart is the male version of Jezebel, not very credible tbh.

SAMPLE BREITBART TITLE:

BREAKING: ALL WOMEN HAVE COOTIES:)

That's Return of Kings you're thinking of.

Breitbart is a conservative news site founded by the late Andrew Breitbart.

uvox

Who cares?

Surely the poll should be :

Will Mark Little:

a) Save Twitter?
b) Go back to RTE?
c) Er,
d) That's it.

TSMGUY

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

That's Return of Kings you're thinking of.

Breitbart is a conservative news site founded by the late Andrew Breitbart.

return of the kings doesn't take itself for seriously though...

DEFTLEFTHAND

TSMGUY wrote: »

return of the kings doesn't take itself for seriously though...

I wouldn't be too sure about that.:pac:

It's interesting to note that Breitbart also had a hand in starting the Huffington Post. Amazing how they evolved over the years to become great ideological rivals.

Its dead Jim

Letree wrote: »

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/20/double-standards-leslie-jones-racist-twitter-history/

Breitbart: Evil leftists call people racist to silence those who speak out against them. Hey, check out this woman who is a racist.

Outlaw Pete

Clip from him earlier and also an NBC interview with him just afterwards (sure he's only lovin the attention of course ).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymn7xODUe5k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnH9RA5jbC0

Adam Brennan

I don't think he was right to be permanently banned from Twitter, I've seen far worse - lets not forget how many people are radicalised to join ISIS from Twitter alone. There's far worse out there than someone being a racist.

As for Leslie Jones, nobody deserves to be treated that way, however, this is life. Cyberbullying is a very thing to avoid, one can do it simply by closing their eyes if they really wanted.
The best thing she could've done would be to not react whatsoever and just report the hate speech (which is the only proper thing to do; scratching a rash never helps).

Both did things wrong, however, this shouldn't really be as big as it is. It's just some simple cyberbullying/trolling - I cannot say that I haven't had my fair share over the years, you need to get over these things.

kowloon

This is a podcast with the guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnH67G7vAu4

Billy86

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Blah blah blah blah, you talk about ignoring links, go ahead and ignore this non-fake twitter link. Again.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Lesdoggg/status/564664734268411906

Does your memory just wipe itself on an hourly basis of everything that doesn't fit into it's right wing agenda?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100417537&postcount=187
I googled February 8th, 2015 and couldn't come up with anything. Is there any context to this tweet or what it is related to be? Because it is clearly in response to something, but it would be interesting to see what before judging. I was hoping one of the dozens (hundreds?) of comments on it would help me out here, but no... the very first reply to it was July 18th, 2016. Almost a year and a half after the tweet, which is... interesting.


Funny how you ignored that, but predictable for you. And on the subject of predictable...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100417678&postcount=190
So feel free to link to the other tweets you were happy to accuse her of, or just admit that you were duped like a gullible eejit. Or... do what everyone reading this post knows you will do, which is try to change the subject or shift the goalposts. If you respond of course.

Or this.
https://twitter.com/Lesdoggg/status/440339119239991296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Again... context. Who is this Solomon she is referring to? Is it a serious issue she is discussing, or is she (a comedian) intending it as a joke?

Funny though, that wasn't one of the posts you attributed to her earlier in your attachment. Why can't you find them?

Try this on for size..
https://mobile.twitter.com/Lesdoggg/status/744695460644925440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Oh yes, commenting on a TV show where someone did something stupid. So god damn racist, not a chance you're going out of your way to avoid the fact that this was a comedian making a joke - kind of different to what we saw the last few days on Twitter.

Again, these are not the ones you attached earlier though, are they? Go and find them or just admit you got duped because you wanted to believe.

Or this!
https://twitter.com/Lesdoggg/status/504060745026637825?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Not a comment on fashion trends, oh dear!

But hey since you're clued in on this tweet and not just desperately clutching at straws... what two white women is she referring to?

And again... why can't you link to the tweets you attributed to her earlier in the attachment? Maybe you were taken for a ride like a gullible eejit? I mean you didn't know that there literally is a website where you can make fake tweets, so there's really not as much shame in admitting you were duped as you seem to think there is.

Or this.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Lesdoggg/status/169001733417213952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Again. Context please. Given you're so sold on it being racist, you surely know what she is talking about and whether it is a joke or serious.

And again, why no links to the actual racist tweets you attributed to her earlier in the attachment? Is it because you don't want to talk about them anymore because of how you didn't know you can doctor the date on those fake tweets too? I know, you did make a big song and dance about that one, so that might be a little embarrassing, but the fact is you didn't know.

How about this?
https://mobile.twitter.com/Lesdoggg/status/564965558408327168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Are you trolling at this stage? She asked a question, and the answer to her question is typically yes, in the same way someone who wears Muslim clothing with the huge beard etc or a person who carries their rosary beads everywhere are likely more dedicated to their own religions too.

You really are desperate to change the subject away from your own ignorance on making fake tweets though, aren't you? Like the ones you attributed to her earlier that you still have not linked to.

Or this........
https://mobile.twitter.com/Lesdoggg/status/755218642674020352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
LITERALLY inciting people to hunt down someone.

Hilarious given the date, July 18th 2016, right in the middle of her receiving a torrent of racist abuse from god knows how many people. Sadly we can't see what she was referring to because "whitebecky" no longer has an account on Twitter. What convenient timing, you'd almost swear from that and the username that it was a fake account as part of a trolling war against one woman.

Now... where are the links to those fake tweets you attached to your post earlier? You keep pathetically trying to shift the goalposts away, but the fact is you were duped like a gullible eejit and never once questioned them to be anything but entirely true, simply because they backed up your own biases and prejudices. Either that, or you can go and find the links for them. Which you still have yet to do for any of the ones in your attachment.

You want links so bad, why don't you show me the Milo tweet that incited the same?

Where have I said that, again? Has there even been a mention of Yiannopoulous in our exchanges today?

Oh wait, that's right... I nearly forgot...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100417678&postcount=190
So feel free to link to the other tweets you were happy to accuse her of, or just admit that you were duped like a gullible eejit. Or... do what everyone reading this post knows you will do, which is try to change the subject or shift the goalposts. If you respond of course.

Or ignore this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDThNoeDeh4

^Thats good, I laughed, the woman is obviously sharp as a tack.

Why would I ignore that? It's stand up comedy. Didn't find it funny myself, it's a tired and boring trope that she didn't add much of any new meaningful material to, but then again the same could be said of the Ghostbusters movie (based on reviews & previews, I haven't seen it and have no plans to).

I'm not the gullible eejit here. I stand by my opinions on this horse ****. It's publicity, nothing more. Leslie Jones is perfectly fine. I'll just sit back and laugh at the real "gullible eejits"

If you're not a gullible eejit who unquestioningly latches on to anything that supports your own prejudices, then you will be able to provide links for the tweets in your attachment earlier.

ardinn

kowloon wrote: »

This is a podcast with the guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnH67G7vAu4

This is the first one - a better introduction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGL5eRw7rXU

Grab All Association

Funny that some of the people who are trolling her are the ones who were criticizing the casting of her character as stereotyping/racial

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/mar/07/ghostbusters-leslie-jones-defends-remake-racial-stereotyping-criticism

I retweeted her at the time. I comended her for standing up to the PC brigade. There's at least 5 accounts I recognized from last March

pragmatic1

I don't like the guy. Hes full of **** and inaccuracies.

However, freedom of speech has to be absolute.

jacksie66

This post has been deleted.

pragmatic1

TSMGUY wrote: »

Hit the nail on the head. He's like some wannabe Christopher Hitchens spouting off what he considers to be witticisms but failing miserably and claiming everyone's just too sensitive to appreciate his genius.

The guy's not racist/sexist etc., he's just a talentless prick.

No. Hitchens was a public intellectual. Milo is just an idiot that talks proper English. There is no comparison.

Recognition Scene

pragmatic1 wrote: »

However, freedom of speech has to be absolute.

Freedom of speech means the government can't arrest you for just saying something... it doesn't mean anyone has to listen to you, or anyone has to give you a platform to say it.

The guy is a professional troll, and this wasn't the only harassment campaign he'd been involved with. Twitter is a better place without him.

Elliott S

Why are people making out that no jokes can be made about black people ever? I just recently rewatched 'The 40 Year Old Virgin' which isn't very old and there is tonnes of black stereotyping in it and very funny it is too. No uproar. Similarly, South Park does it all the time, as they consider everything and everyone fair game. It's not all that rare at all. So people highlighting jokes about white people made by Jones (and not giving the context and conversation) and using this as a reason why the abuse levelled at her is acceptable are being really disingenuous. Of course jokes can be made of black stereotypes. Done with comedic skill, they can be great. And even if they are not that funny, I'm sure most people can detect that they are jokes. There was absolutely no wit in most of the abuse she received. It was just abuse.

pragmatic1

Recognition Scene wrote: »

Freedom of speech means the government can't arrest you for just saying something... it doesn't mean anyone has to listen to you, or anyone has to give you a platform to say it.

The guy is a professional troll, and this wasn't the only harassment campaign he'd been involved with. Twitter is a better place without him.

If you don't like what he says and disagree with him, which I do, simply stop listening to him.

I know that twitter is a privately owned company and doesn't have to give anyone a platform. However, it's dangerous when we start to censor speech. If we can't have discussions, action is the next step.

Wibbs

pragmatic1 wrote:

freedom of speech has to be absolute.

1) This. Is. Not. America(thank christ). We don't have the right to free speech. Hell even they don't. 2) "Free speech" is not, nor can be an absolute in any society. There will always be limits and usually said limits are set by the law. You quite simply can't say what you like in any society. Where those limits are set is up for debate of course.

Harika

Elliott S wrote: »

Why are people making out that no jokes can be made about black people ever? I just recently rewatched 'The 40 Year Old Virgin' which isn't very old and there is tonnes of black stereotyping in it and very funny it is too. No uproar. Similarly, South Park does it all the time, as they consider everything and everyone fair game. It's not all that rare at all. So people highlighting jokes about white people made by Jones (and not giving the context and conversation) and using this as a reason why the abuse levelled at her is acceptable are being really disingenuous. Of course jokes can be made of black stereotypes. Done with comedic skill, they can be great. And even if they are not that funny, I'm sure most people can detect that they are jokes. There was absolutely no wit in most of the abuse she received. It was just abuse.

Sending Jones a picture of herself where someone ejaculated on it is a joke? Anyway those people were also not banned, only Milo who encouraged his 70000 followers to do harass her, after he was already temp banned several times.
Twitter is extremely tolerant with what you can say, go out and try to get banned on twitter.

Elliott S

Harika wrote: »

Sending someone Jones a picture of herself where someone ejaculated on it is a joke?

Someone Jones? Come again?

Anyway, I think you missed the point of my post there if I'm reading your post correctly as I am not defending yer banned man, though I'm slightly confused by your post. Can you rephrase?

Harika

Elliott S wrote: »

Someone Jones? Come again?

Anyway, I think you missed the point of my post there if I'm reading your post correctly as I am not defending yer banned man, though I'm slightly confused by your post. Can you rephrase?

Updated it.

Sending Jones a picture of herself where someone ejaculated on it is a joke?

Elliott S

Harika wrote: »

Updated it.

OK, yes, then you misunderstood my post. Go back and reread it. I said that the abuse levelled at Jones was unacceptable. I said the people using the fact that she makes jokes about white people was disingenuous.

Turquoise Hexagon Sun

He shouldn't have got banned.

However Anita Sarkesian is on the Trust and Safety Council of Twitter so you can see the sort of logic that's going to be applied at Twitter.

Whether you agree with everything Milo says is one thing but you can't disagree with his defence of free speech. As he admits, he's a monster created by the regressive far-left.

For the those of you who don't know who she is...

Cienciano

pragmatic1 wrote: »

If you don't like what he says and disagree with him, which I do, simply stop listening to him.

I know that twitter is a privately owned company and doesn't have to give anyone a platform. However, it's dangerous when we start to censor speech. If we can't have discussions, action is the next step.

You're misunderstanding what free speech is. Twitter does not have to provide free speech.

Letree wrote: »

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/20/double-standards-leslie-jones-racist-twitter-history/

I'm not clicking a poxy breitbart link, but did you know Milo sent a load of screenshots out of fake tweets to make her look racist? That's one of the reasons he was banned

PopePalpatine

I wonder how many of Milo's defenders have actually read Twitter's rules.

Thoie

Turquoise Hexagon Sun wrote: »

He shouldn't have got banned.

Whether you agree with everything Milo says is one thing but you can't disagree with his defence of free speech. As he admits, he's a monster created by the regressive far-left.

I absolutely can disagree with a ridiculous claim of "free speech" in this case. Free speech is about the ability to say "the government is useless, and needs to be replaced" without being arrested. It is not a carte blanche to launch personal attacks - not even on an individual member of the government,

He is not "a monster created by the regressive far-left". He's a little notice-box that needs to grow up. His excuse is right up there with "the devil made me do it" and shows a shocking lack of personal responsibility. No-one and no thing made him do anything. If the "regressive far-left" had the power to make people do things, surely they'd make everyone think like them? Or make everyone be nice to each other.

Potatoeman

Harika wrote: »

Sending Jones a picture of herself where someone ejaculated on it is a joke? Anyway those people were also not banned, only Milo who encouraged his 70000 followers to do harass her, after he was already temp banned several times.
Twitter is extremely tolerant with what you can say, go out and try to get banned on twitter.

He is very outspoken about not harassing people. He criticised and made fun of her. That is not encouraging harassment.

Renegade Mechanic

Your posts are painful, Billy. Genuinely now. This is the last time I'm going to be bothered. Expect sarcasm.

Billy86 wrote: »

Does your memory just wipe itself on an hourly basis of everything that doesn't fit into it's right wing agenda?

Muh evil right wing: Check..

Billy86 wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100417537&postcount=187
I googled February 8th, 2015 and couldn't come up with anything. Is there any context to this tweet or what it is related to be? Because it is clearly in response to something, but it would be interesting to see what before judging. I was hoping one of the dozens (hundreds?) of comments on it would help me out here, but no... the very first reply to it was July 18th, 2016. Almost a year and a half after the tweet, which is... interesting.

For the uumpteenth time now. Try and pay attention, please. Or don't, like I care. You're not going to be moved from your own agenda.

Ready now?

It's a real tweet.
On Twitter.
Posted by Leslie Jones.
I'm not saying she shouldn't say it, I'm saying she's perfectly entitled to because free speech.
I'm saying this "perfect, soft damsel" is horse ****.

Billy86 wrote: »

Funny how you ignored that, but predictable for you. And on the subject of predictable...

Billy86 wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100417678&postcount=190
So feel free to link to the other tweets you were happy to accuse her of, or just admit that you were duped like a gullible eejit. Or... do what everyone reading this post knows you will do, which is try to change the subject or shift the goalposts. If you respond of course.

I did.
They're all real posts.
On the actual Twitter
Posted by the actual Leslie Jones.
I even linked to all but one of them.
I'm not on Twitter and Google didn't turn it up.

Billy86 wrote: »

Again... context. Who is this Solomon she is referring to? Is it a serious issue she is discussing, or is she (a comedian) intending it as a joke?

Doesn't matter. Lots of "jokes" are taken the wrong way. You want context, take it with the other tweets.

Posted by Leslie Jones.
That I linked to.
On Twitter.
That's your context.

Billy86 wrote: »

Funny though, that wasn't one of the posts you attributed to her earlier in your attachment. Why can't you find them?

You mean this attachment?
https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/647826/392261.jpg
The one to which all but one tweet was linked to?
On Twitter?
Posted by Leslie Jones?
She's perfectly entitled to say those things. Never once accused her of racism - go ahead, find the post where I call her racist

I'm currently accusing the "perfect damsel" line of being horse ****.

Billy86 wrote: »

Oh yes, commenting on a TV show where someone did something stupid. So god damn racist, not a chance you're going out of your way to avoid the fact that this was a comedian making a joke - kind of different to what we saw the last few days on Twitter.

Aaaaaaand again now.
Never said she was racist.
Enjoyed everything she said.
Assert that she is entitled to say/tweet what she wants.
But that automatically makes this situation of "woe is me" a load of horse ****.

Billy86 wrote: »

Again, these are not the ones you attached earlier though, are they? Go and find them or just admit you got duped because you wanted to believe.

You mean the posts in the attachment above?
To which all but one were linked to her account?
Who exactly is the delusional eejit here???
Mate.... Seriously......

Billy86 wrote: »

Not a comment on fashion trends, oh dear!

But hey since you're clued in on this tweet and not just desperately clutching at straws... what two white women is she referring to?

Are those goal posts I hear shifting? :pac:

Billy86 wrote: »

And again... why can't you link to the tweets you attributed to her earlier in the attachment? Maybe you were taken for a ride like a gullible eejit? I mean you didn't know that there literally is a website where you can make fake tweets, so there's really not as much shame in admitting you were duped as you seem to think there is.

You mean th- ahhhh **** it, just see above..

Billy86 wrote: »

Again. Context please. Given you're so sold on it being racist, you surely know what she is talking about and whether it is a joke or serious.

See above. You'll see I never said racist, etc etc...

Billy86 wrote: »

And again, why no links to the actual racist tweets you attributed to her earlier in the attachment? Is it because you don't want to talk about them anymore because of how you didn't know you can doctor the date on those fake tweets too? I know, you did make a big song and dance about that one, so that might be a little embarrassing, but the fact is you didn't know.

See above.

Billy86 wrote: »

Are you trolling at this stage? She asked a question, and the answer to her question is typically yes, in the same way someone who wears Muslim clothing with the huge beard etc or a person who carries their rosary beads everywhere are likely more dedicated to their own religions too.

You really are desperate to change the subject away from your own ignorance on making fake tweets though, aren't you? Like the ones you attributed to her earlier that you still have not linked to.

I'm the ignorant one?

Billy86 wrote: »

Hilarious given the date, July 18th 2016, right in the middle of her receiving a torrent of racist abuse from god knows how many people. Sadly we can't see what she was referring to because "whitebecky" no longer has an account on Twitter. What convenient timing, you'd almost swear from that and the username that it was a fake account as part of a trolling war against one woman.

Doesn't matter. If people are being banned to the letter of the law, then she should have been banned long ago.
Personally I don't think she should have been. Because I believe she should be allowed to say those things. WHICH IS WHY I DON'T THINK MILO SHOULD HAVE BEEN CANNED EITHER....

Billy86 wrote: »

Now... where are the links to those fake tweets you attached to your post earlier? You keep pathetically trying to shift the goalposts away, but the fact is you were duped like a gullible eejit and never once questioned them to be anything but entirely true, simply because they backed up your own biases and prejudices. Either that, or you can go and find the links for them. Which you still have yet to do for any of the ones in your attachment.

Jesus ****ing Christ, man I literally linked all but one of them in my previous post...

Billy86 wrote: »

Where have I said that, again? Has there even been a mention of Yiannopoulous in our exchanges today?

Oh wait, that's right... I nearly forgot...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100417678&postcount=190
So feel free to link to the other tweets you were happy to accuse her of, or just admit that you were duped like a gullible eejit. Or... do what everyone reading this post knows you will do, which is try to change the subject or shift the goalposts. If you respond of course.

Why would I ignore that? It's stand up comedy. Didn't find it funny myself, it's a tired and boring trope that she didn't add much of any new meaningful material to, but then again the same could be said of the Ghostbusters movie (based on reviews & previews, I haven't seen it and have no plans to).

If you're not a gullible eejit who unquestioningly latches on to anything that supports your own prejudices, then you will be able to provide links for the tweets in your attachment earlier.

Aaaaaaand see above. My previous post links to all but one of the tweets in my attachment, and more besides.

'gullible eejit!'
'gullible eejit!'
'gullible eejit!'
'gullible eejit!'

Look, lad I'm not doing this again, I've **** to do.
I respect you enough to inform you of that, so you can bear it in mind if you feel like typing something at me again here, because I'm just mot going to bother responding. I can't, it's just painful with you...

Penn

Potatoeman wrote: »

He is very outspoken about not harassing people. He criticised and made fun of her. That is not encouraging harassment.

He retweeted obviously faked tweets from people pretending to be her and in the full knowledge that once he does something like that, his followers will go after that person without him having to explicitly encourage it. That's how he operates. Anyone he starts criticising, his followers attack while he can maintain the defence of "Well I didn't say anything offensive"

Potatoeman

Penn wrote: »

He retweeted obviously faked tweets from people pretending to be her and in the full knowledge that once he does something like that, his followers will go after that person without him having to explicitly encourage it. That's how he operates. Anyone he starts criticising, his followers attack while he can maintain the defence of "Well I didn't say anything offensive"

He is not responsible for the actions of other people, especially as he explicitily condems harassment and tells his followers not to do it.

Harika

Turquoise Hexagon Sun wrote: »

He shouldn't have got banned.

However Anita Sarkesian is on the Trust and Safety Council of Twitter so you can see the sort of logic that's going to be applied at Twitter.

Whether you agree with everything Milo says is one thing but you can't disagree with his defence of free speech. As he admits, he's a monster created by the regressive far-left.

For the those of you who don't know who she is...

<-xnip youtube>

Yeah Anita who is as important as Hans Riegel as CEO of the Gummibears company. Never heard of him? Yeah same would happen with Anita and Milo when you are not in the circles that make their life of them. Thunderfoot, Sargon and so on make their money by making videos about how Anita is playing the victim card, causing their fans to go over and break a new boundary, where Anita profits from the PR and the youtubers from ad-revenue, complaining about her.
Most of those YT, started with a focus on anti-religion, and then when the revenue stream declined, moved to Gamergate, Anita, Feminism and now BLM. What you will find with them, that there is no discussion going on. Like e.g. Sargon puts out a video, someone creates a rebuttal clarifying his mistakes or misconceptions, and then it ends.
Funnily Thunderfoot experienced recently how it is when the trolls attack you as he took a stance for the remain campaign and his youtube comments section was flooded with nonsense comments. So tides can turn very quickly in this new world of cyber shoutouts, as you cannot call it discussion.
When you see Milo crushing some Feminist, or “winning” the discussion. you need to know things, his opponents are mostly inexperienced in discussion and he is very good at it. As there is no live fact checking, it is easy to throw in any statistic and use it as your defence if the opponent is not prepared or cannot deal with his tactics.

Thoie

Potatoeman wrote: »

He is very outspoken about not harassing people. He criticised and made fun of her. That is not encouraging harassment.

He knows, from countless past experiences, that he barely needs to make a negative remark about an individual on twitter and that person will be deluged by his followers.

He does the equivalent of holding his hand centimeters from your face and then claims you can't get annoyed because he's not touching you. Except in the meantime his friends are behind you punching you in the kidneys.

Varik

He's going to ride the indignation for a while and then as with a few others have done use our DPC to get himself unbanned.

Maguined

PopePalpatine wrote: »

I wonder how many of Milo's defenders have actually read Twitter's rules.

What rules did he break that Leslie herself did not break?

Milo is not saying Twitter cannot suspend his account because of free speech but rather that Twitter is not being honest as it is not applying the rules evenly. Twitter can do whatever it likes with it's rules and can be as biases at it wants but Milo wants them to be honest about it. If Twitter has rules against harassment then those rules should be applied evenly but they currently are not and that is his point.

Potatoeman

Thoie wrote: »

He knows, from countless past experiences, that he barely needs to make a negative remark about an individual on twitter and that person will be deluged by his followers.

He does the equivalent of holding his hand centimeters from your face and then claims you can't get annoyed because he's not touching you. Except in the meantime his friends are behind you punching you in the kidneys.

So he can't criticise anyone?

Stephen Fry and Joss Whedon were harassed off twitter too. Should the people that initially criticised them be banned too?

mariaalice

Its a business decision primarily when journalist and the like are closing their accounts on twitter it was time to step in and do something. It a business and the like of this had the potential to hurt the bottom line eventually.

Grayson

Maguined wrote: »

What rules did he break that Leslie herself did not break?

Milo is not saying Twitter cannot suspend his account because of free speech but rather that Twitter is not being honest as it is not applying the rules evenly. Twitter can do whatever it likes with it's rules and can be as biases at it wants but Milo wants them to be honest about it. If Twitter has rules against harassment then those rules should be applied evenly but they currently are not and that is his point.

except he's been suspended/warned multiple times before. Even if she broke a rule this time, she isn't a serial troller like him. He wasn't suspended just for this, if it was the first time he would have gotten a warning.